Cyber Sports Network looking to host CF Placement Tournament/League
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Ok. New list to discuss on (Trying out a full list based on more strict rules) Will change as more opinions come in.
Characters
- SWAT
- SAS
- OMOH
- AK-47
- AK-74
- Famas
- K2
- M4A1
- M16
- QBZ-95
- SCAR-Heavy
- SG552
- Steyr AUG A1
- Tar21
- K1A
- MP5
- MP7
- Micro-Galil
- P90
- UZI
- AWM
- Dragunov
- M700
- M60
- RPK
- XM1014
- Spas-12
- Desert Eagle
- Anaconda
- P228
- Colt 1911
- Glock-18
- M9
- Standard frag grenade
- Standard smoke grenade
- Standard flash bang
- Knife
- Bag 3 & 4
- C4 Setup/Defuse
- Expand grenade slot
- No armor, no flash guard, smoke goggles, No ammo magazines
- No hats, bags, extra clothing type items.
That's about as perfect as rules can get.
Wish you use these, alot of people might not be happy with it...but it's FAIR, which is what competitive play is all about. -
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I still don't get why you ask how many people use the G36K then put up weapons that even less people would even bother to use. Why bother putting up guns that any decent player that is aiming to win would most likely not use in a scrim that matters?
Because then in the unlikely case that someone DOES use it, they still have the opportunity. -
I was asked to get feedback on all weapons. This list is by no means complete or final. It's simply to get all-around feedback on what people think, that's all.
the list I quoted SHOULD be final, if you want true fair game play.
FORGOT: the aug has a small..issue
When you purchase it through the GP system it has 30/90 ammo...but if you win it through the Crates (luck) system you get it with increased ammo (35/90?) -
Because then in the unlikely case that someone DOES use it, they still have the opportunity.
I suppose, oh well I know what my 2nd bag will be anyways.the list I quoted SHOULD be final, if you want true fair game play.
FORGOT: the aug has a small..issue
When you purchase it through the GP system it has 30/90 ammo...but if you win it through the Crates (luck) system you get it with increased ammo (35/90?) -
When you purchase it through the GP system it has 30/90 ammo...but if you win it through the Crates (luck) system you get it with increased ammo (35/90?)
I don't know how is this league's anti-cheat, but admins should be capable to see if the ammo is 35/90 or 30/90. -
the list I quoted SHOULD be final, if you want true fair game play.
FORGOT: the aug has a small..issue
When you purchase it through the GP system it has 30/90 ammo...but if you win it through the Crates (luck) system you get it with increased ammo (35/90?)
We will see as the day progresses how people feel about that last quoted list. I am in agreement as well, that would provide true, equal and competitive game play. -
Anyways, gotta go to work.
If you need anything hit me up on xfire/steam (sig)
Hope this community shows more support -
The management of this League is not without its intelligence. They will base their decision from community opinion only so far and base it off of the more impacted part of the community (Competitive) as well. They have their own views and opinions on the general topic of allowing an equal weapon set. A good, logical decision with deep consideration to the community's interests and the interests of competitiveness and fairness will be made I assure you.
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Just something i remembered, you can't always make all the players happy.
Cuz the rules are man-made it will be always a little sloppy or a little tight, it can't be always 100% fair to everyone.
What you should do is make it as fair as possible and try to enforce that :]
Best of luck.
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Catering to every single user's wants and needs and making the rule set fair and competitive are two completely different animals. Yes, community opinion and the interests of the competitive community matters A LOT, being as without the players there is no League. However, there is a line to be drawn.
The list displayed allows every participating player equal and fair access to weapons, without having to do ANYTHING extra to obtain a particular weapon, as well as eliminates the 100% wall damage weapons (which defeats the purpose of seeking any sort of cover behind doors, boxes, and can lead to people simply spamming every object they see, knowing they will do 100% damage).
In the interests of a competitive and fair playing field, I would say that list is pretty accurate. Again, making each and every player completely happy is absolutely impossible. But we can do our best to do both in regards to a happy competitive community and a fair, competitive rule set. -
Catering to every single user's wants and needs and making the rule set fair and competitive are two completely different animals. Yes, community opinion and the interests of the community matters A LOT. However, there is a line to be drawn.
The list displayed allows every participating player equal and fair access to weapons, without having to do ANYTHING extra (surveys, etc.), as well as eliminates the 100% wall damage weapons which defeats the purpose of seeking any sort of cover behind doors, boxes, and can lead to people simply spamming every object they see, knowing they will do 100% damage. In the interests of a competitive and fair playing field, I would say that list is pretty accurate. Again, making each and every player completely happy is absolutely impossible. But we can do our best to do both in regards to a happy competitive community and a fair, competitive rule set.
Polleus for president.
Nice arguments right there, I'm 100% with you. -
Ignorance or a mistake? There are two weapons that do 100% wall damage on that list and one that does 50%, nice try.
Could be a mistake, please clarify. As I said that list is not complete and/or final. I'm all for more discussion. Please share what you know. -
Could be a mistake, please clarify. As I said that list is not complete and/or final. I'm all for more discussion. Please share what you know.
M700 is 100% iirc.
MP5 is and so is Micro.
However I've already made an argument for these Cypher. I'll link you to the 7+ page thread about the same weapons/arguments if you want. -
If the add the m4 variants...they must add the AK variants as well.
I don't think the K2 should be banned, it's not OP.
I think the XM8 should be LIMITED to one per team (similar to how the AWM is limited to two per team)
i totally agree whit this guy... -
pimpdemnikes wrote: »no terribads cheating in a free and easy game.
Please don't start any juvenile arguments. I ask that you please respect the topic at hand, regardless of what the other users may have said. This discussion is for the better of the competitive community, not to satisfy your personal opinions on another player. -
I knew that. But being an SMG, it doesn't seem to be the threat as an 100% wall power assault rifle does it?M700 is 100% iirc.
MP5 is and so is Micro.
However I've already made an argument for these Cypher. I'll link you to the 7+ page thread about the same weapons/arguments if you want.
I know, I simply found it interesting that it was being touted as a "100% wall damage" free list. Its funny, how many SMG's have high box damage. -
Please don't start any juvenile arguments. I ask that you please respect the topic at hand, regardless of what the other users may have said. This is for the better of the competitive community, not to satisfy your personal arguments.
I didn't start it, I don't see why wou would quote me. gtfo. -
Play me sometime, I will mp5 the entire time. Sure you might not be able to 1 click someone half way across the map. But if you pick and choose your spots and how you play/position your self it can easily be as powerful.
I like you more. -
I know, I simply found it interesting that it was being touted as a "100% wall damage" free list. Its funny, how many SMG's have high box damage.
I stand corrected as I had said 100% Wall damage weapons. I should have said 100% wall damage assault rifles. My apologies.
Also, the CSN Scout (anti-cheat portion) is not working yet for Crossfire obviously, but still go download/install the program and give it a try. Game selection on the loading screen does not particularly matter at this point, just use your CSN website information to log-in. It has an excellent feature within the anti-cheat program with a General Lobby and specific game lobbies for teams to find games/scrims/pick-up games etc. Just try it and get a general feel for the program if you want.
http://cyber-sports.net/downloads - CSN Client file is setup.exe
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