Cyber Sports Network looking to host CF Placement Tournament/League

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  • Polleus wrote: »
    You mean the same weapon with a silencer? I don't see your logic at all. It isn't their fault they are poor either. Why should they have weapons that would allow an advantage just because someone isn't poor or has the time to do surveys? It's not fair.

    Also, you seem to be one of the only ones so far that does not agree with the GP weapons list. Show me the "many" more you claim of, opinions may be changed.

    It's a weapon that tons of competitive players use. If players decide they want to use the normal m4, they can go for it.

    The m4-adv and silver both have their downfalls too.
    Less fire rate.
    And the spray pattern in really bad.
  • Sizzauce wrote: »
    It's a weapon that tons of competitive players use. If players decide they want to use the normal m4, they can go for it.

    The m4-adv and silver both have their downfalls too.
    Less fire rate.
    And the spray pattern in really bad.

    I don't think he's saying the gun is overpowered...we all know it's not.
    It's just not available to everyone.
  • moch_D wrote: »
    I don't think he's saying the gun is overpowered...we all know it's not.
    It's just not available to everyone.

    Exactly. He is correct though that people COULD do surveys do obtain some ZP. However, that would defeat the purpose in having a fair weapon set that everyone could obtain, WITHOUT having to do anything extra.
  • The only person that responded to me on xfire, because everyone is sleeping.

    [09:36] Sauce: yaBlow, yaDig?: These kids are trying to get this new league to not allow m4-adv and m4-silver...
    [09:36] Sauce: yaBlow, yaDig?: so ****ing dumb
    [09:36] Sauce: yaBlow, yaDig?: i dont even own a normal m4
    [09:36] Swiizye: lawl are they dumb?
  • Sizzauce wrote: »
    The only person that responded to me on xfire, because everyone is sleeping.

    [09:36] Sauce: yaBlow, yaDig?: These kids are trying to get this new league to not allow m4-adv and m4-silver...
    [09:36] Sauce: yaBlow, yaDig?: so ****ing dumb
    [09:36] Sauce: yaBlow, yaDig?: i dont even own a normal m4
    [09:36] Swiizye: lawl are they dumb?

    Just for your information, the owners are not kids. If you noticed, they are a registered LLC similar to WOGL, they are not off the street teenagers. I understand you don't agree with the consensus so far, but there is no reason to be rude or show disrespect. Also as you said, you can do surveys to acquire ZP, which means you can do surveys to acquire enough to convert to GP, to purchase a regular M4.

    Just because you don't own one, doesn't mean other people don't. There is a great interest for this league and a good support for a GP only weapon set so far. I'm sure they will take your opinion into great consideration before making a final decision. Thus, if there is anyone else that doesn't agree with it, it is important they come on here and the CSN thread and let them know. They need to look at it from all opinions and angles before making a final decision.
  • Hope you guys actually end up picking up crossfire, would be another great step for the competitive community.
    Any ideas on when this placing tourney would take place? (if it happens of course)
  • moch_D wrote: »
    Hope you guys actually end up picking up crossfire, would be another great step for the competitive community.
    Any ideas on when this placing tourney would take place? (if it happens of course)

    Well, I'll be speaking with them again today to see what they think of the support so far. I'm sure they will let this sit for a couple days to work out if it is worth picking up Crossfire. Until then, there are no set plans as of yet.
  • Polleus wrote: »
    Just for your information, the owners are not kids. If you noticed, they are a registered LLC similar to WOGL, they are not off the street teenagers. I understand you don't agree with the consensus so far, but there is no reason to be rude or show disrespect. Also as you said, you can do surveys to acquire ZP, which means you can do surveys to acquire enough to convert to GP, to purchase a regular M4.


    "Kid" sometimes isn't used to describe someones age, think about it.

    I'm not showing disrespect, I'm voicing my opinion. I've done all the surveys I can, none work anymore. I don't care if I don't have a normal m4, I have many other guns I can use.
  • Sizzauce wrote: »
    "Kid" sometimes isn't used to describe someones age, think about it.

    I'm not showing disrespect, I'm voicing my opinion. I've done all the surveys I can, none work anymore. I don't care if I don't have a normal m4, I have many other guns I can use.

    The term "Kid" can be taken as a form of disrespect, depending on who is looking at it, but I understand your point. Your opinion is greatly appreciated and will most definitely be taken into careful consideration before a final decision is made. The community say is the most important piece of information we can provide. Let's keep showing support and voicing those opinions so the best decision can be made.
  • I wish you best of luck.

    You can xfire me, I have knowledge in administration of communities: efak10.
  • I think I already made this post for some reason. Oh well.

    XM8, G36, and Type 89 should not be allowed due to the 100% wall damage.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    I think I already made this post for some reason. Oh well.

    XM8, G36, and Type 89 should not be allowed due to the 100% wall damage.

    In that case.
    AWM and DSR shouldn't be allowed because of it being 1 hit kill.

    See my point? Every gun has its special features.
  • Sizzauce wrote: »
    In that case.
    AWM and DSR shouldn't be allowed because of it being 1 hit kill.

    See my point? Every gun has its special features.

    Ugh.

    Those are balanced due to other traits of the gun.

    The XM8 is a fine rifle by itself. Same with the G36, and the Type. The wall damage just breaks it. By limiting the wall damage guns to SMGs, you don't have so called "top-tier" teams spamming through mid doors for 5 minutes every round.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Ugh.

    Those are balanced due to other traits of the gun.

    The XM8 is a fine rifle by itself. Same with the G36, and the Type. The wall damage just breaks it. By limiting the wall damage guns to SMGs, you don't have so called "top-tier" teams spamming through mid doors for 5 minutes every round.

    I agree that xm8 is OP.

    The g36 is a hella bad gun at long range.
    The type89 is a really bad gun in general, and no one competitive uses it.


    My opinion, limit the xm8 to 2 per team.
  • Sizzauce wrote: »
    I agree that xm8 is OP.

    The g36 is a hella bad gun at long range.
    The type89 is a really bad gun in general, and no one competitive uses it.


    My opinion, limit the xm8 to 2 per team.

    Type picks heads like a *****.

    And G36 is practically the same as the XM8 long, it just has weird recoil management.
  • Sizzauce wrote: »
    I agree that xm8 is OP.

    The g36 is a hella bad gun at long range.
    The type89 is a really bad gun in general, and no one competitive uses it.


    My opinion, limit the xm8 to 2 per team.

    two is too many, one per team sounds alot better to me.
  • moch_D wrote: »
    two is too many, one per team sounds alot better to me.

    This. IMO 0. But if for some reason they allow it, then it can't be more than 1.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Type picks heads like a *****.

    And G36 is practically the same as the XM8 long, it just has weird recoil management.

    Yeah Type 89 is underpowered in terms of damage, but it's hella good.

    Manage it, practice and the gun is all yours.
  • Polleus wrote: »
    they are real big on "running things by the community first and listening to what the community has to say" before making any decisions.

    Probably a horrible idea considering how silly this community is.


    Also, Type 89 might as well be an SMG. I would rather MP5 at least I run fast. However G36K for most distances is essentially a XM8. You just have to get over the fact it shoots a clip a second.

    M4 Regular
    Less damage
    Faster rate of fire

    M4-Adv
    Higher DAMAGE
    Slower rate of fire

    Just sayin. although I would agree its pretty OP. I would say for WOGL pretty much everyone ended up using M4-Adv/XM8 with a few M4 reg/AK's for sprayers thrown in.

    For the opening placement tournament use WEM rules.

    Primary:
    MP5
    M4A1
    AK-47
    AUG
    SG552
    AWM

    Secondary:
    COLT1911
    Desert Eagle

    Melee Weapons:
    Knife
    Axe

    Grenades:
    Regular
    Smoke
    Flash

    Characters:
    SWAT
    OMOH
    SAS
  • no k2
    no xm8
    no type89
    no g36k

    No goonies.


    hahahha i made a funny.
  • In all seriousness, how many competitive players out there (this past WOGL season or not) actually use a G36 or Type 89 constantly as their main weapon for competitive play?
  • Polleus wrote: »
    In all seriousness, how many competitive players out there (this past WOGL season or not) actually use a G36 or Type 89 constantly as their main weapon for competitive play?

    I did/do.

    Whether or not they currently use it does not mean that they will or won't use it if the XM8 is banned.

    Meaning we're back where we started.
  • I'm with Denxi in the implementation of the WEM rules into this league, but I think K2 should be in it aswell.
  • Us3rK wrote: »
    I'm with Denxi in the implementation of the WEM rules into this league, but I think K2 should be in it aswell.

    K2 is not OP, and no I don't use it.

    Denxi, when you put it that way...
    you should limit all teams to ONE player having either XM8/G36K/Type 89
    I think that's about as fair as it gets.
  • moch_D wrote: »
    K2 is not OP, and no I don't use it.

    Denxi, when you put it that way...
    you should limit all teams to ONE player having either XM8/G36K/Type 89
    I think that's about as fair as it gets.

    Or you could remove all 100% rifles and force anyone who wants to take advantage of something like that to MP5. Thus increasing diversity in strats and gameplay.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Or you could remove all 100% rifles and force anyone who wants to take advantage of something like that to MP5. Thus increasing diversity in strats and gameplay.

    I would support this, but knowing the community...
  • Ok. New list to discuss on (Trying out a full list based on more strict rules) Will change as more opinions come in.

    Characters
    • SWAT
    • SAS
    • OMOH
    Assault Rifles
    • AK-47
    • AK-74
    • Famas
    • K2
    • M4A1
    • M16
    • QBZ-95
    • SCAR-Heavy
    • SG552
    • Steyr AUG A1
    • Tar21
    Sub-Machine Guns
    • K1A
    • MP5
    • MP7
    • Micro-Galil
    • P90
    • UZI
    Sniper Rifles
    • AWM
    • Dragunov
    • M700
    Machine Guns
    • M60
    • RPK
    Shotguns
    • XM1014
    • Spas-12
    Secondary
    • Desert Eagle
    • Anaconda
    • P228
    • Colt 1911
    • Glock-18
    • M9
    Thrown
    • Standard frag grenade
    • Standard smoke grenade
    • Standard flash bang
    Melee
    • Knife
    Items Allowed
    • Bag 3 & 4
    • C4 Setup/Defuse
    • Expand grenade slot
    Character Items
    • No armor, no flash guard, smoke goggles, No ammo magazines
    • No hats, bags, extra clothing type items.
  • According to Polleus post, the removed GP weapons are the Type89, G36K, XM8, PSG-1 and DSR-1.

    Makes it easier.
  • That looks fine, I completely agree with it.