how to help cf be more competitve
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no its not, rosters change everywhere all the time. its not a new team. if you replace 3-4 players then its a new team.
Vanity died before this team was made. They have 2 new ppl that u stated..and then the subs they have were new. That's 3-4 people. By saying roster change and that deviate isn't a new team is like saying all my two week teams wernt new... -
Skepticalism wrote: »Vanity died before this team was made. They have 2 new ppl that u stated..and then the subs they have were new. That's 3-4 people. By saying roster change and that deviate isn't a new team is like saying all my two week teams wernt new...
teams that play wcg dont have subs really, and team names mean nothing. Im pretty sure they would still have played with hob and brando regardless. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Yeah, why did you bring people like AL into this world?
Why did you allow cowards to exist?
cowards? who the **** are you to speak to me like that? can yuo please explain? it's cowards like you who talk big and are nobodies even on the internet. I can tell youre a pathetic kid in real life too.
because i wont post a picture to a random nobody means im a coward? qu33rs like you need to stay quite on the internet like they are in real life -
teams that play wcg dont have subs really, and team names mean nothing. Im pretty sure they would still have played with hob and brando regardless.
They played wogl and esl. I'm sure they had subs there roster isn't just the s5. It's a new team..either way. You said 3-4 people is a new team. They had 3-4. -
cowards? who the **** are you to speak to me like that? can yuo please explain? it's cowards like you who talk big and are nobodies even on the internet. I can tell youre a pathetic kid in real life too.
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This was last year.
What do you think I do now?
Get on my level.
My intellect will surpas yours any day. Not only will I be known well in this world, but known to the extent that I will own you. -
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This was last year.
What do you think I do now?
Get on my level.
My intellect will surpas yours any day. Not only will I be known well in this world, but known to the extent that I will own you.
and im bill gates
get on my level ******. Stop pretending like you are something once again. Leave and quit.
Known l0l? kids at school dont even notice you, what makes you think you are successful at anything -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Ok, let's take this down a notch please. Let's not argue over who's e-pen is bigger. That's not the purpose of this thread. I will remove any further related posts to this argument. You all have Xfire, please use it.
K, I'm done. -
If what you say is true,I might just move on to A.V.A with my team(if they're willing). For some reason after going thru October-March of 09-10 im still confident CF won't hit as low as it did during those grueling months. And anyone who played through that could tell you that scrimming against the same 2 teams over and over was quite boring.
AVA blows, if skeptic is cody, he already went there. game play their is worse then in CF. only good thing about AVA is the graphics. -
My take on this is as follows :
1. Game is not ''dead'' however IMO, it is on the decline. Many old CF players have left, However their continues to be constent source of 5s in e-8. Even I don't play as much (waiting for my old team to get back together) however when I do I never have trouble getting a scrim. That seems to indicate that like its been said, new teams and players are coming in to replace the old.
2. I agree with Pistola, if your done with the game, then your DONE. Thats means you Al
(shouldnt you be teching me source).
3. The game hasn't changed, so why is it now that all these complaints of '' the game is broken'' are starting know? CF has always been what its been, but i agree we do need change because it is getting bored. We either need a new competetive mode, or something new that will change the competition from what it is now.
4. Lets face the fact, the CF community is NOT going to change. The maturity level is what it is and nothing is going to change that. We can make all the claims of how we need to change our actions nd blah blah, but its not going to happen. The older and more experience players are ALWAYS going to trash on the less skilled players (Kind of like how seniors treat freshmens, with imputy aand annoyance) and the newer players are always going to be, for lack of better words, noobs.
5. The change that people want in the CF community HAS to start with the leagues. This came up in a convo I had with Hi the other day. I think the reason for everyone leaving and all the cafufflle, can be put put partly to blame on the leagues and their administration. I mean between WOGL being understaffed, unorganised, UNCARING and simply and wreck, and ESL being ***ed over with all of the disbaning teams (due to WCG), this season was horrid. I feel like next season of ESL will be much better because I have full confidence of the staff who I actually know and can contact. WOGL however I have little confidence in. They obviously do not care an ounce about CF but we need them to. They are the league with the most foundations and links to CF and if they step it up, i believe that will attribute in creating a more solid competetive community.
6. As long as the leagues continue to run SMOOTHLY and PROPERLY, people will play. Thats the fact of it. As for the game being boring... deal with it. I don't play the game for the game, i play it for the people.
7. Lastly, i agree with the point being mentioned that we NEED to advertise. I don't know what happens with z8 but we need a bigger player base to make up for the bad community. Don't know if the MODS can help with this since they have the closest connection to the z8 staff.
8. i lied, this is the last one. YOU CANNOT SEE INTO THE F******* FUTURE. People were saying the game was going to die bck when WEM ended, and looki here, we got WCG
tl;dr
-WOGL and oL needs to step it up big time
-ESL will be much better next season as long as teams stick together -
Here is a TaeYeon's ouput on why this game is not competitive.
It is because Z8 could care less whether or not if this game is competitive enough to hit the top LAN tournaments. Think about it. Would you rather lose all the pubstars who spends thousands of money on ZP items or lose people who play leagues to win $1000 dollars but rarely buys ZP items?
Get real, this is life. Saidin is not going to give a living shizznet about this game being super competitive. Let's be real here, NACF is only able to participate in WCG because f2p shooting games are really popular in asia, guess who cares about F2P shooters in the NA region? Not many people, they come for a free trip to some other country. Anyone who is looking for real competition will play a p2p shooter, this game is meant to have fun with a mediocre amount of competition. You can do all these leagues for this game, but in the end Z8 is not going to import new SND maps, GP guns or invest any large amount of money on leagues. This is not League of Legends where the devs are known players in the competitive scene, but a bunch of businessmen who are trying to make big bucks.
The competitive community in CF is only ~10%, the beloved customers who spend hundreds of $$ on ZP are the ones Z8 care most about. They will tell you "NOOO WE CARE ABOUT YOU" but it's all just simple marketing techniques. -
My take on this is as follows :
1. Game is not ''dead'' however IMO, it is on the decline. Many old CF players have left, However their continues to be constent source of 5s in e-8. Even I don't play as much (waiting for my old team to get back together) however when I do I never have trouble getting a scrim. That seems to indicate that like its been said, new teams and players are coming in to replace the old.
2. I agree with Pistola, if your done with the game, then your DONE. Thats means you Al (shouldnt you be teching me source).
3. The game hasn't changed, so why is it now that all these complaints of '' the game is broken'' are starting know? CF has always been what its been, but i agree we do need change because it is getting bored. We either need a new competetive mode, or something new that will change the competition from what it is now.
4. Lets face the fact, the CF community is NOT going to change. The maturity level is what it is and nothing is going to change that. We can make all the claims of how we need to change our actions nd blah blah, but its not going to happen. The older and more experience players are ALWAYS going to trash on the less skilled players (Kind of like how seniors treat freshmens, with imputy aand annoyance) and the newer players are always going to be, for lack of better words, noobs.
5. The change that people want in the CF community HAS to start with the leagues. This came up in a convo I had with Hi the other day. I think the reason for everyone leaving and all the cafufflle, can be put put partly to blame on the leagues and their administration. I mean between WOGL being understaffed, unorganised, UNCARING and simply and wreck, and ESL being ***ed over with all of the disbaning teams (due to WCG), this season was horrid. I feel like next season of ESL will be much better because I have full confidence of the staff who I actually know and can contact. WOGL however I have little confidence in. They obviously do not care an ounce about CF but we need them to. They are the league with the most foundations and links to CF and if they step it up, i believe that will attribute in creating a more solid competetive community.
6. As long as the leagues continue to run SMOOTHLY and PROPERLY, people will play. Thats the fact of it. As for the game being boring... deal with it. I don't play the game for the game, i play it for the people.
7. Lastly, i agree with the point being mentioned that we NEED to advertise. I don't know what happens with z8 but we need a bigger player base to make up for the bad community. Don't know if the MODS can help with this since they have the closest connection to the z8 staff.
8. i lied, this is the last one. YOU CANNOT SEE INTO THE F******* FUTURE. People were saying the game was going to die bck when WEM ended, and looki here, we got WCG
tl;dr
-WOGL and oL needs to step it up big time
-ESL will be much better next season as long as teams stick together
1. Game won't die until pubstars leave.
2. People don't leave this game because they actually like it, but just looks for attention by posting hate threads.
3. Excuses for them to do bad in this game.
4. I do not treat people like trash, I am just sick of how low their intelligence is.
5. Leagues won't bring better players into this game with the prize being what I carry in my pocket daily.
6. Stupid league rules makes people unable to finish their game smoothly. This is CF, my experience in ESL is people disputing us for "cheating", "insults" just to waste time.
7. Z8 needs to get on Riot's level and advertise hardc0re, have people post videos constantly on their youtube. Host better events. CF is Z8's hit game yet they spend no effort into making it successful.
8. There will most likely be another WCG with CF being popular in asia. They need more countries to participate in WCG. Game will not die, new players will come until new free games surface and just completely outplays CF. -
The asian market is just as lackluster competitive wise as we are. The difference is they have a larger playerbase, with a larger playerbase there are more people in that group of players who will want to be competitive thereby giving it a larger competitive community.taeyeoNNNNNN wrote: »Here is a TaeYeon's ouput on why this game is not competitive.
It is because Z8 could care less whether or not if this game is competitive enough to hit the top LAN tournaments. Think about it. Would you rather lose all the pubstars who spends thousands of money on ZP items or lose people who play leagues to win $1000 dollars but rarely buys ZP items?
Get real, this is life. Saidin is not going to give a living shizznet about this game being super competitive. Let's be real here, NACF is only able to participate in WCG because f2p shooting games are really popular in asia, guess who cares about F2P shooters in the NA region? Not many people, they come for a free trip to some other country. Anyone who is looking for real competition will play a p2p shooter, this game is meant to have fun with a mediocre amount of competition. You can do all these leagues for this game, but in the end Z8 is not going to import new SND maps, GP guns or invest any large amount of money on leagues. This is not League of Legends where the devs are known players in the competitive scene, but a bunch of businessmen who are trying to make big bucks.
The competitive community in CF is only ~10%, the beloved customers who spend hundreds of $$ on ZP are the ones Z8 care most about. They will tell you "NOOO WE CARE ABOUT YOU" but it's all just simple marketing techniques.
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