Professionalism in Competitive Cross Fire
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then obviously you don't know paid2play gaming communities.Eurotrashed wrote: »mhm, respect in a video game, you're taking this too serious. the sole fact that people remain anonymous on the internet and therefore behave like utter morons is never going to change, stop trying to change it. -
then obviously you don't know paid2play gaming communities.
it's obviously far more here, i was basically talking about the community in free to play games. free to play games tend to attract more stupid people who can't afford or who refuse to afford (better) p2p games. -
then obviously you don't know paid2play gaming communities.
Well on Halo 3/Reach for the xbox, there are just as many trashtalkers etc. as we have here but overall i guess the community is nicer. When it comes down to play on lans like ECL or even an MLG event. Almost everyone is chilled and nice to each other. There are only a few players who are just complete i***** on xbox live/forums and arent respected. I think every game has this trashtalk and some people take it pretty serious but when you meet the person irl its really easy to get along and have some fun with them. -
Yet I do agree with some of what Bobby has to say, but it's about just having respect. If your in somebody's face and your talking sht to them, IN PERSON, not over this little forum, YOUR ASKING FOR AN ASS KICKING. At least that's how I am and I know the people around me are. That is why their is limits and their are rules to Sportsmanship. Plain and Simple.compuLzion wrote: »Originally Posted by BOBBY View Post
i have to agree with this statement. -
i guess that means slag doesn't play anymore.
finally i don't have to fear the elbow
heh, I've never been on a team with slag.. he was part of a different xil roster for a different game... tbh I can't stand any of those [fe] guys minus maybe kiss.
My team right now for CF consists of guys I've played brink/blackops with but they have some stupid AVA competitions to practice for so I don't get to play much
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bromontana wrote: »Here's the problem with that, and keep in mind I'm not trying to bash this game. The gaming organization's that are in this game, aren't really the "professional" organizations you would see upholding these kind of values in other games. Even then there is always trash talking to some degree, but these teams will be a lot more lax on these situations as they don't take themselves as serious as some of the other "big names".
There will always be the players that want to stroke their e-peen and be "that team" that constantly talks trash after winning. I've made it a point with all of my teams in the past not to talk excessive trash. If someone starts in on us, sure, have fun trolling them back, but none of my players will ever go out of their way to put a team or other players down in any game I play. A lot of the responsibility is with the leader of said team and how they want to be seen in the community. To me I'd rather be respected and rooted for, than hated. But to each their own I guess.
While I agree this doesn't pertain to everyone in the community, this community seems to be right on par with most free2play shooters. I've played quite a few others and I'd say it's really no different in those.
While I agree with you completely, I don't agree with "settling". Why shouldn't an organization expect more? As you said, the excessive trash talking is just unnecessary. I believe it's only normal for an Organization to expect the best of its teams and their players. So what if this is a Free to play community? Does that mean I should just roll over and say, "Oh this is normal for a F2P community, its never going to change"?
No. I don't think so. I definitely agree with your points, but I disagree in the fact that an Organization SHOULDN'T do something about it, when it gets out of hand. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »While I agree with you completely, I don't agree with "settling". Why shouldn't an organization expect more? As you said, the excessive trash talking is just unnecessary. I believe it's only normal for an Organization to expect the best of its teams and their players. So what if this is a Free to play community? Does that mean I should just roll over and say, "Oh this is normal for a F2P community, its never going to change"?
No. I don't think so. I definitely agree with your points, but I disagree in the fact that an Organization SHOULDN'T do something about it, when it gets out of hand.
I never said they shouldn't do anything about it. I'm trying to say this in a way that isn't offensive to the gaming organizations that have CF teams, but what it boils down to is the quality of the organization. Lower quality organizations are going to do less policing and care less about their immediate image. This is usually an equivalent to the investment they make with said team. As people have pointed out, there aren't many expenses to have a CF team. Now while it may be "good for business" for a team to pickup a low cost gaming team in exchange for getting your name out to more people, you will also see a lot less effort put into said team.
edit: Let me clarify something too, I'm not casting any blame on the gaming organizations themselves. I'm saying they are more lax in these things because they don't really pay attention to them. Is it their job? That's debatable, I think when a team gets picked up by an organization, there is some amount of trust put into that teams leadership that they will do the right thing. It ultimately boils down to the leader of said team. -
bromontana wrote: »It ultimately boils down to the leader of said team.
I completely agree. However, in this game, as I have said many times, discipline sometimes must be taught before it is learned. Some leaders become leaders and simply don't know how to lead or are not ready. Many of them just fall through the cracks, but some come in and act like they own the place and do whatever they want. Know what I mean? -
It's not always about the leader. The leader does play a big role in a team, of course he/she does. There are leaders in this game, and there are followers in the game. The followers are people trying to make a new clan/team and failing because they don't have the patience nor do they have the character to do it.
Also, if you rely on the leader much more then you do your other team, it could go horribly wrong. The leader is just as much of a player as anyone else, but the leader has an extra role. If the leader can't get the "good" players then it can't exactly always rely on the leader to make the team "good" or "outstanding." Cutting players could help, but yet again if you can't get players or you can't find those right people, the leader can't be blamed for all of it. -
i totally agree. People hate eachother and don't treat with respect. Hate is the only thing that exists. Why? People think they're something on the internet.
And yes, when 1 person misses, there is inmediately an argument because that person missed. Thats just crap. When people start doing nicer to eachother there would be more joy in this game. -
"image" on the internet is an illusion.
Of course, it's preferred that you don't act like an asshat.
But as long as you're not having any kind of IRL relationship with a group of players or you've never been to a LAN or something like that. You can be pretty much who you want to be as a team/player and behave like that. -
Liqweedate wrote: »"image" on the internet is an illusion.
Of course, it's preferred that you don't act like an asshat.
But as long as you're not having any kind of IRL relationship with a group of players or you've never been to a LAN or something like that. You can be pretty much who you want to be as a team/player and behave like that.
The people you mention have never and probably wont go to LAN, and then say their going to fight people once they get there. -
It's not always about the leader. The leader does play a big role in a team, of course he/she does. There are leaders in this game, and there are followers in the game. The followers are people trying to make a new clan/team and failing because they don't have the patience nor do they have the character to do it.
Also, if you rely on the leader much more then you do your other team, it could go horribly wrong. The leader is just as much of a player as anyone else, but the leader has an extra role. If the leader can't get the "good" players then it can't exactly always rely on the leader to make the team "good" or "outstanding." Cutting players could help, but yet again if you can't get players or you can't find those right people, the leader can't be blamed for all of it.The people you mention have never and probably wont go to LAN, and then say their going to fight people once they get there.
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