The Scar Light
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Scar being easier to use should not affect competitive play...
1) You can choose which gun you bring to the game: Scar L is a GP gun, so accessible for everyone. If you didn't buy it, it's your own fault. If you bought it and didn't bring it: exactly the same.
2) It would only affect unexpected face-to-face fights: in any situation where you have the advantage, you should be able to kill your enemy without many problems, no matter which gun he uses.
It has no effect on your ability to discover the location of the enemy and a strat caller should be able to adjust the strats based on the weapons used by the opposing team.
3) People use the guns they can perform best with. If the SL has an advantage over other guns, the majority of players will use SL. If SL gets banned, they will switch to the 2nd best gun. Guns are supposed to be different and it will always lead to one being the best/having the least disadvantages compared to its advantages.
But on the other hand, the SL has a pretty big advantage compared to most of the guns, so you could argue that the gap is too big to be considered fair... And out of the current number of available GP guns, it's acceptable to take out the one of which they think the advantages are too big. -
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CookieMunzta wrote: »What time you stayin up til? I got your pm earlier, but I D/Cd
1pm and im deffo stayin up
There is a PM system for a reason, please stop spamming the thread.will this is my opinion on why the scarl is so overpowered
power/rof
it kill faster then almost any gun
recoil
thats where it come in as a noob canon, the recoil is minimal, giving 2 advantage
-on medium range, you can hold the trigger and the shots will go on the upper body and the head while you need to only aim close to it.
the spay pattern is rely left and right instead of going up ( in my personal opinion at-least) giving making that you don't need to control the recoil and if the opponent lag or you lag ( ever wondered why its the favorite gun of lagers?) you got a high chance of hitting him since the bullets go all over to the right and left where if the person is running, he probably is. ( ever played gunz? same theory as that)(this problem is also extremely found on the m12) but don't take my word for it, get yourself a scarl and go on a server where you lag, just spray around the target and you will get a bunch of regs even though you were not aiming exactly on the person.
ammo,
no real disadvantage either, its high enough and no long reload like some guns have.
movement speed/accuracy whil moving
1 of the best, for the rifles at-least, you can move and hold the trigger and you will still hit the target with less recoil then with a m4 while standing
accuracy while standing
pinpoint
disadvantage?
none, other then you will be hated for using it maybe? not that you can read English anyway...Basically, it's a point and click gun, like an automatic AWM. It has so little recoil, that it takes very litttle skill to use.Overpowered.
Read the thread before you post please.CookieMunzta wrote: »You can't really compare a gun, to human form. We're defined as 'special' because we can invent new objects, cure illnesses, save lives.
What I meant was that everyone could use it, making it not overpowered, as the average power would be that.
Although I don't think everyone will switch over. When the SL first came out, the only "competitive" players that really used the SL were Shogg, and I believe BlindRob. I will always prefer the M4/K2 to the SL, I dislike it's spray pattern.
I didn't state what I define 'skill' to be.
I define skill as, amongst many things, the ability to read where a player's coming from, where the next player's coming from, and determining which to go for before you get killed.
The gun you use has nothing to do with determining where the enemy will come from, besides making them avoid specific areas if you have, say, an AWM.
Even then, the gun type doesn't make it easier to determine. If you feel different, please post a scenario.
Also skill can be defined by the speed in which you manage to kill your opponent.
Let me state, that with the Scrub, the two aforementioned 'skills' are extremely easy to do.
That is individual skill. Crossfire is a team game.
There's a reason it's banned from competitions, but you say people would label the K2 as a noob gun if it were banned too? The AK-47 Scope is banned, hardly a noob though gun is it? And I haven't seen one person call it so.
Quote me, I never said anything about a gun being bad because it was banned.
The only person who could possibly write to defend using a Scrub, is somebody who is actually embarrassed they do so. Trying to get other to see it's okay to use one, simply will not work on these forums. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just saving you some time.
I really don't have much of an idea of what you're trying to get across. As much as I can figure, you're saying that you can only not like the SL. That's just stupid.This is the same person that would argue the use of Claymores. You can try to 'define' skill by saying its not the gun that makes the player, but it is a large part of it. Even in your thread you point to the fact that the players guns have an affect on how you play.
Just because they effect how you play doesn't mean they make you better.
The fact of the matter is, and for any future copy pasta threads like this,
Already explained how this isn't a copy and paste, and until you can prove otherwise, please stop saying it is.
the Scar Light is banned because the majority of the players (including most if not nearly all the good players) view it as being overpowered. If you don't like it then don't play. I, for one, am enjoying the no Spop/armor/Scar Light games in WOGL.*
I don't even use the SL. No where in this thread have I said I did. SPOP and Armor are ZP, that's the issue with them. And this isn't about WOGL.
*The fact that there is none, not the game itself. This game makes me want to punch a baby for being so bad.
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This thread should really be closed, it caused a user to become frustrated and banned and their will only continue to be pointless arguments about the gun.
On Topic: I don't use Skill Light very much (Yes, I call it that, refrain yourself from insults.)
I think it's massively over used and too easy to use, I see people in TDM with it all the time and they are the ones that are ACE's. It's too easy of a killer and I think it should be changed from GP to ZP at the very least. If not, remove it. -
These have been the worst counter arguments I have ever seen you post Denxi. You keep trying to bring the post back to your other thread about 'skill', when in-fact the gun does enable people to do things they otherwise couldn't.
Does it matter what gun a person uses if they flanked you one on one? Obviously not, but most of the game is shooting. Therefore, having a gun that enables you to shoot so much easier than any other gun in the game is overpowered.
Stop this COPY PASTA bullshi.t. If what you say is so true, then you would see people running around with m9s and mp5s because you don't need to worry about the gun, and just need to shoot. The Scar Light is a clear advantage in everything except its switching noise and wallbang (though it sports an above average percentage for some reason).
On top of that, there has been PLENTY of 'competitive' players who used the Scar Light. That fact right there proves that you don't know what you are talking about.
Stop this useless garbage, its like reading some fourteen year old's argument with stale points. When you can:
A) Run around beasting top teams with a gun like the k1a, famas or m9 and
Win a league/Tournament with those guns
then you can talk about how guns don't affect a player and his ability to frag and be of support to a team.
Until then, stfu. -
everything mentioned in this thread is an opinion. one person could easly use an m4 while another k2. Id say the scar is easy to aim with but thats MY opinion so u cant really say that one gun is overpower or easy to aim with and thats fact
Scar Light is overpowered. There I did it. -
This thread should really be closed, it caused a user to become frustrated and banned and their will only continue to be pointless arguments about the gun.
On Topic: I don't use Skill Light very much (Yes, I call it that, refrain yourself from insults.)
I think it's massively over used and too easy to use, I see people in TDM with it all the time and they are the ones that are ACE's. It's too easy of a killer and I think it should be changed from GP to ZP at the very least. If not, remove it.
Agreed, I've given up debating with that kid, as he only takes his own points and opinions into account.
Who got banned? Purrps?![:\](https://forum.z8games.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
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These have been the worst counter arguments I have ever seen you post Denxi. You keep trying to bring the post back to your other thread about 'skill', when in-fact the gun does enable people to do things they otherwise couldn't.
Does it matter what gun a person uses if they flanked you one on one? Obviously not, but most of the game is shooting. Therefore, having a gun that enables you to shoot so much easier than any other gun in the game is overpowered.
Stop this COPY PASTA bullshi.t. If what you say is so true, then you would see people running around with m9s and mp5s because you don't need to worry about the gun, and just need to shoot. The Scar Light is a clear advantage in everything except its switching noise and wallbang (though it sports an above average percentage for some reason).
On top of that, there has been PLENTY of 'competitive' players who used the Scar Light. That fact right there proves that you don't know what you are talking about.
Stop this useless garbage, its like reading some fourteen year old's argument with stale points. When you can:
A) Run around beasting top teams with a gun like the k1a, famas or m9 and Win a league/Tournament with those guns
then you can talk about how guns don't affect a player and his ability to frag and be of support to a team.
Until then, stfu.
Again with the copy paste
Switching noise is the same as every other gun in SnD, that being 72m.
I was speaking about when it came out, please re-read. I took a six month break, I wouldn't know anything at that time, however when the gun first came out, there were not many people who used it as a "serious" gun.
The entire point is, by reduce the stress placed in aiming, you make teamwork the defining factor in team, effectively changes what the game is about. -
CookieMunzta wrote: »Agreed, I've given up debating with that kid, as he only takes his own points and opinions into account.
Who got banned? Purrps?
Thanks for responding to my responses to you, and being polite about it.
I've done nothing disrespectful in this entire thread, and all I've been getting is insults. I don't even know why I try to actually discuss thing with this community. -
lol we jus dont like scar lights noobs or brails in any orderOpinionated wrote: »Thanks for responding to my responses to you, and being polite about it.
I've done nothing disrespectful in this entire thread, and all I've been getting is insults. I don't even know why I try to actually discuss thing with this community.
(not online though)
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