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in the digital world, technically, there is no such thing as luck. It's a bunch of programming rules anyway that are tailored for certain accounts that meet certain criteria! You don't meet them, you will never win..
It is impossible to be mere luck.. Otherwise the luck-system needs a fix o.o.. I mean come onnn, 3 in 10 free crates?
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in the digital world, technically, there is no such thing as luck. It's a bunch of programming rules anyway that are tailored for certain accounts that meet certain criteria!
Rubbish. Explain how brand new accounts can win ZP guns from free crates?
There IS such thing as luck. For example: The server calls for a random number between 1 and 100. Number 1 is the permanent weapon, numbers 2-99 is random junk.
The server matches the number up to the table and if you have 1, then congrats, you got the permanent weapon. They don't have something like "If ZP spent = 99999, give ZP weapon" or anything like that.
They may have made a mistake in the win rates for these crates, and I can't deny that because I don't know, but saying that luck doesn't "technically" exist is just ridiculous. -
master_mann wrote: »The costume crate had increased odds? I span 200 and only won the monkey helmet
I think this crate had better odds tbh.No I think the win rate is higher. Remember buying like 50 of those crates during the boxing day (or black friday) and i won 3 times. My friend bought 200-300 and won 10-15 times lol. Remember how my friends kept winning from that spacific crate which made me buy those 50...
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Since you managed to give everyone like 5 zp guns from those blazewing crates and I haven't won anything out of last 2500 crates i think its time for a goodbye. I have tolerated all the issues up till now but this was the last straw. Goodbye.
Hi bro
Man, its crossfire downfall. Servers down, fair gaming down, no chance everywhere.
I feel how sadly you are coz of this black market, ik its luck but seems luck go to high country ppl.
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Leaving the game will not solve the problem, at least stay for your fan's in escape artist.
Ty for reading.
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master_mann wrote: »Rubbish. Explain how brand new accounts can win ZP guns from free crates?
There IS such thing as luck. For example: The server calls for a random number between 1 and 100. Number 1 is the permanent weapon, numbers 2-99 is random junk.
The server matches the number up to the table and if you have 1, then congrats, you got the permanent weapon. They don't have something like "If ZP spent = 99999, give ZP weapon" or anything like that.
They may have made a mistake in the win rates for these crates, and I can't deny that because I don't know, but saying that luck doesn't "technically" exist is just ridiculous.
That word rubbish is overdoing it mate but if that's your style and manners then so be it..
Anyway.. what you said does not contradict ONE word of what i said.. I didn't specify a certain category of winning here.. I said there must be certain criteria! Perhaps "brand new accounts" is one of them! o.o
And how do you know 'they have made a mistake"? I wonder!
How do you know the process in the first place?! O.O
How can one person get "3 Ones" in 10 crates repeatedly?!
It's just a computer that does what its told to do. Doesn't take smartness to get to such conclusion! Even its "randomness" is rule-based because it's just a computer, unless it has some sort of A.I tech inside.. With some awesome programming rules it can try to reach the state of being random but still it doesn't seem to be so.. Some accounts are just winners! Some are 99% NOT.. It does seem to be account based. I just mentioned the obvious but some people are just contradiction lovers! Or are you afraid of changing the current status because you are one of these who keep winning no matter what?
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It is as close to random as tech algorithms get, so yes it is based on luck. Its not random in the sense that you will always get one of the listed items, instead of a chocolate bar, for example. Its not random in that you know what you will have a chance at winning. However, there are no 'prerequisite' and no 'criteria' to winning or losing. Its as simple as putting your hand in a hat and pulling out a number, and whatever number you are holding corresponds to a prize on the wall.
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[GM]Kanadian wrote: »It is as close to random as tech algorithms get, so yes it is based on luck. Its not random in the sense that you will always get one of the listed items, instead of a chocolate bar, for example. Its not random in that you know what you will have a chance at winning. However, there are no 'prerequisite' and no 'criteria' to winning or losing. Its as simple as putting your hand in a hat and pulling out a number, and whatever number you are holding corresponds to a prize on the wall.
Then how come people are winning 2 to 5 weapons (repeated or not) from the Dragon Blaze crates. This is new, seeing this many people winning multiple weapons from these crates. How would you explain that? And no it's not because there are many people spinning these crates. We've been having multiple events lately where we're given out a good number of crates, like the current Weekend event and last month's Weekend event. And we know that many people won and are still winning form these two events' crates, but still their winning stats are low compared to what people have won and are winning from these 20 Dragon Blaze crates. I mean 3 weapons from 20 crates, won by numerous people? Come on... -
[GM]Kanadian wrote: »It is as close to random as tech algorithms get, so yes it is based on luck. Its not random in the sense that you will always get one of the listed items, instead of a chocolate bar, for example. Its not random in that you know what you will have a chance at winning. However, there are no 'prerequisite' and no 'criteria' to winning or losing. Its as simple as putting your hand in a hat and pulling out a number, and whatever number you are holding corresponds to a prize on the wall.
do some crates perhaps have a different win-rate?
for example if you compare the M14EBR-Prime crate to the Dragon Blaze crates then there's a big difference in win-rate.
some people didn't win in 1000+ M14EBR-Prime crates while others are winning 5 in 20 Dragon Blaze crates.
is it because one is a GP crate and the other is a ZP crate or could it be that the Dragon Blaze crate was just bugged? -
[GM]Kanadian wrote: »It is as close to random as tech algorithms get, so yes it is based on luck. Its not random in the sense that you will always get one of the listed items, instead of a chocolate bar, for example. Its not random in that you know what you will have a chance at winning. However, there are no 'prerequisite' and no 'criteria' to winning or losing. Its as simple as putting your hand in a hat and pulling out a number, and whatever number you are holding corresponds to a prize on the wall.
Always nice to get some solid replies from you Kanadian.. thanks for clarifying and confirming the "no prerequisites" thing and for engaging in the topic! Should be enough to kill my doubts/conspiracy theories ^^' haha.. -
Come on man. Stop telling us it's base on luck.. Rofl[GM]Kanadian wrote: »It is as close to random as tech algorithms get, so yes it is based on luck. Its not random in the sense that you will always get one of the listed items, instead of a chocolate bar, for example. Its not random in that you know what you will have a chance at winning. However, there are no 'prerequisite' and no 'criteria' to winning or losing. Its as simple as putting your hand in a hat and pulling out a number, and whatever number you are holding corresponds to a prize on the wall. -
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BostoNKinGs wrote: »sure its based on luck but the real question is what odds did you set on the crate LMFAO
Reading this makes me think if it was all based on luck why is it that always the same items pop up like sprays, green beret, coupons etc for example that cannot be luck... lol
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its likeoSasuke*** wrote: »Reading this makes me think if it was all based on luck why is it that always the same items pop up like sprays, green beret, coupons etc for example that cannot be luck... lol
Unless i'm missing something.
30 temp
30 temp
30 temp
30 temp
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0.1 permanent..
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its like
30 temp
30 temp
30 temp
30 temp
30 temp
30 temp
30 temp
0.1 permanent..
Does that make sense?
So it's like a box with one item you want filled with useless temp things you don't want. I wasn't too sure because I really haven't played a game without a win rate so the whole luck doesn't make sense to me. -
Its all about the odds set, the temp items and coupons have higher odds than permnitems hence you see more.......oSasuke*** wrote: »Reading this makes me think if it was all based on luck why is it that always the same items pop up like sprays, green beret, coupons etc for example that cannot be luck... lol
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Thats how gambling works bro. Still cant believe he quitting over crates. Any1 who believes its a rigged system is insane, GMs can barely handle normal operation in my eyes. You think they out here managing a crate scheme???????oSasuke*** wrote: »Yeah that's what I mean, if it's based on luck than I have one awful luck in the BM. -
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Not sure what you mean by win rate. Do you mean like guaranteed win after certain amount of buys?oSasuke*** wrote: »Yeah that's what I mean, if it's based on luck than I have one awful luck in the BM.
Not exactly. They way I believe the crate system is set up is based on unequal probabilities.
Let's say that a crate has 5 items you can win, 1 permanent and 4 temporary items.
You could set up the win rate for the permanent weapon to be an equal 20% each item, or you can set it to be 24% for the temp items(24*4=96%) and only 4% for the permanent etc.
But this system is still based on chance. You could open 100 20% perm win rate crate(from which you should win 20 permanent items) and win nothing, or you can open one 4% perm win rate crate and win. So there is never a guaranteed win.
Obviously, in order to get more revenue from the BM system the win rate for the permanent weapon is set up really low.
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