Z8games Give the UK a chance PETITION
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looks like you should petition ESL to include CF NAUK in their ladders, like it used to be.
or ESG, of course.
ESL won't let UK players to play in their ladders since they got partnership with gamerage so that means they need to follow gamerage's rules that means UK players can't play since they are not even allowed to play CFEU.
About ESG they will need a UK admin that can hold the uk scene tournaments first, so right now UK scene is dead. -
dropping the UK license would obviously remove the UK servers, on which egypts and turks play, two of the biggest and thus most profitable groups.0Reflexion0 wrote: »did you just say EXTREMELY PROFITABLE?
are you serious?
The UK probably makes up under 1% of the players on the UK server, and nearly all of them are competitive players who don't spend any money on pointless ZP weapons.
The UK servers might be profitable, but how is that anything to do with our country? and why should we, the small group of competitive players from the UK be pinned to this server, and be the ones blocked from CF EU.
You may as well name the servers Turkey/Egypt and leave us out of it.
We're just a group of competitive players stuck here because Z8Games don't want to give up the name "UK Servers".
So, tell me how is this backwards?
it's not a simple matter of "ok now you can play on CF EU".
this simply will not happen.
petition ESL instead, i'd love to play competitively again and we're a huge market of EU players on CF NA, currently untapped.
thats where you'd want to spend your energy.
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oh okay theres a contract with ESL in play.
replace ESL with ESG in the text above or try to start something up yourself. -
dropping the UK license would obviously remove the UK servers, on which egypts and turks play, two of the biggest and thus most profitable groups.
it's not a simple matter of "ok now you can play on CF EU".
this simply will not happen.
petition ESL instead, i'd love to play competitively again and we're a huge market of EU players on CF NA, currently untapped.
thats where you'd want to spend your energy.
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oh okay theres a contract with ESL in play.
replace ESL with ESG in the text above or try to start something up yourself.
There is no way ESL are going to go against Gamerage and allow UK players to compete.
Why can't Z8Games just let us play at EU? what is actually stopping them?
And finally, why don't they just license another area and place the servers there. The UK are just stuck in the middle of Z8Games wanting more money and ESL and Gamerage not wanting trouble with Z8Games -
And I've just got to say, why would I want ESL to open tournaments for the UK servers here? I don't want the UK to be singled out, it's in Europe and that's the version I and others want to play.
And why would I go about starting something up myself? why would I want to make tournaments for this version? The majority in the UK servers here can play in CrossFire Europe, a few simply choose to play here (and mostly to hack here) except players from the UK, us, the minority, who are blocked from CrossFire EU. -
You need to find something to build up UK scene again like contact the big tournamnets that is going on Z8 to try to support UK scene same thing happend to me when i wanted to make the UK tournament that got really big hit on the UK scene. First i had to contact OCG and tell them everything that we need something that can make UK scene active again and such stuff and after a while they let me use the anticheat and build up an tournament for the UK scene. But after that the UK scene was dead again, you know why? because there was not any tournamnets going on at UK scene after that.
I can tell you this, posting more and more threads about ESL & CF EU won't help since they already got a contract with gamerage and it takes money to run that so it's hard to run one at UK scene and EU scene. So the only chance UK scene got is to contact a tournamnet in CFNA to support UK scene. -
Spekkulertt wrote: »In 2010, Me and my clan were tired of scrimming in E8, so we decided to create the uk3 8 scene. Its population has increased alot, and competition was definently required to keep the community entertained and make them stay. Tyze took the responsebility on him and created a cup called the UK-Cup, that had 20 000 forum views 4 months ago. The UK scene has potential, and NEEDS competition to survive, just like CrossFire in general. I support this post in full.
- FPAS.Spekk Aka Spekk
No disrespect Spekk, but I've been around a lot longer than you, you didn't create the UK 3-8 scene, it was around from the very start with a completely different player base and I never saw you back then, please don't lie. The scene completely died and then recently the population has grown again (with pubstars) -
surely you understand why a company isn't going to drop an extremely profitable part of it's market and give it to a competitor, to satisfy a competitive need.
looks like you should petition ESL to include CF NAUK in their ladders, like it used to be.
or ESG, of course.
this seems extremely backwards.
Unfortunately, ESL is under contract with GameRage, so they have to not allow us to play, the only way is to switch the licenses. -
The thing is, it's fine for most people in the UK servers because if they felt like competing, they can just go over to EU. They are allowed to play both versions.
But the UK players, and the UK players alone are stuck here, where we have no chance at competing.
It's like all the american players, the whole of america (north and south)
they have their own versions and their own chance at competing.
On the other side CrossFire Europe, all of europe have their chance at competing. And even azerbaijan and russia have their own versions.
Then we have players from the UK, stuck in the middle, like we're in a cage.
We're not allowed to compete on either side.
And once again, I must say, what is stopping z8games letting us play on EU.
The reason GameRage do not allow us to play is because z8games don't let them.
So it is Z8Games holding us back, okay, they own a license to host servers here( WHICH ARE IN GERMANY?)..but why does that prevent us playing in CF EU. If Z8Games cared about the game and players rather than money they could just let us play in that version, and nobody would be affected negatively, they'd just make the currently small group of UK players happy (and maybe it would be a larger group if we were allowed to play on EU) -
Why don't you start a competition with UK players in mind?
Z8 has usually relied on the community to run tournaments/leagues.
Ive read the whole thread. People actually had some good several points. But I talked to some friends to host one for strictly UK teams since they rarely have tourneys. Expect one to be released next week to all UK players. -
0Reflexion0 wrote: »The thing is, it's fine for most people in the UK servers because if they felt like competing, they can just go over to EU. They are allowed to play both versions.
But the UK players, and the UK players alone are stuck here, where we have no chance at competing.
It's like all the american players, the whole of america (north and south)
they have their own versions and their own chance at competing.
On the other side CrossFire Europe, all of europe have their chance at competing. And even azerbaijan and russia have their own versions.
Then we have players from the UK, stuck in the middle, like we're in a cage.
We're not allowed to compete on either side.
It's just that you need to put some time on trying to contact some tournaments to support UK scene. -
0Reflexion0 wrote: »The thing is, it's fine for most people in the UK servers because if they felt like competing, they can just go over to EU. They are allowed to play both versions.
But the UK players, and the UK players alone are stuck here, where we have no chance at competing.
It's like all the american players, the whole of america (north and south)
they have their own versions and their own chance at competing.
On the other side CrossFire Europe, all of europe have their chance at competing. And even azerbaijan and russia have their own versions.
Then we have players from the UK, stuck in the middle, like we're in a cage.
We're not allowed to compete on either side.
I completely agree with everything you're saying, I'm horrible at explaining things but I've tried this many, many, times. Saidin has ended up replying before but he kind of dodges the issue and gives half answers. The only way is to drop the license, I'm glad that other UK players are figuring this out and starting to complain about it also. -
I don't understand. At the beginning of the post you say it's fine and UK players can play either version. At the end of your post you say the UK is in a cage and cannot compete in either version...
Edit:Ive read the whole thread. People actually had some good several points. But I talked to some friends to host one for strictly UK teams since they rarely have tourneys. Expect one to be released next week to all UK players.
Oh that's nice of you.
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I don't understand. At the beginning of the post you say it's fine and UK players can play either version. At the end of your post you say the UK is in a cage and cannot compete in either version...
UK players are not allowed to play CFEU, what he is trying to say that they don't got any tournamnet going on UK scene since they can't play ESL. -
I don't understand. At the beginning of the post you say it's fine and UK players can play either version. At the end of your post you say the UK is in a cage and cannot compete in either version...
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Oh that's nice of you.
Right, I think you should re-read the first post.
I never once said we are allowed to play EU, we are not. -
Ive read the whole thread. People actually had some good several points. But I talked to some friends to host one for strictly UK teams since they rarely have tourneys. Expect one to be released next week to all UK players.
I really appreciate the help but this is a matter of licensing. Most of the UK servers are full of turks and egyptians, pubstars, and have pretty much no serious teams (this isn't cf eu) There are very few UK players and we simply want to compete on CF EU. -
JoshBritish wrote: »I really appreciate the help but this is a matter of licensing. Most of the UK servers are full of turks and egyptians, pubstars, and have pretty much no serious teams (this isn't cf eu) There are very few UK players and we simply want to compete on CF EU.
UK server is full of turks and egyptians that's right but there is still some teams that are decent at UK scene that would take UK tournaments seriously -
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Oh that's nice of you.
I know right. ^_^JoshBritish wrote: »I really appreciate the help but this is a matter of licensing. Most of the UK servers are full of turks and egyptians, pubstars, and have pretty much no serious teams (this isn't cf eu) There are very few UK players and we simply want to compete on CF EU.
Yeah, i noticed but even with the few good points, i also highly doubt it'll happen with the valid reasons.
It'll be fun to host one anyway. ^_^ For the matter of fact, I'll release the sign up/rule set thread tonight. -
Ive read the whole thread. People actually had some good several points. But I talked to some friends to host one for strictly UK teams since they rarely have tourneys. Expect one to be released next week to all UK players.
Sure, tournaments are good, and it would be nice to have such tournaments for all of us who play in the UK servers.
BUT..still the UK, as in the country, and not the servers it's pinned to.
The UK players, are not allowed to compete at the highest level.
CF Stars for example.
And yes, although people may not believe we have players who could compete at that level and even if we didn't we should be given the same chance everyone is else is given. -
Why don't you start a competition with UK players in mind?
Z8 has usually relied on the community to run tournaments/leagues.
And isn't there a forum rule against petitions?
If there were loads of good competitive UK players, sure! but there's not many UK players and the servers are only here to make profit off the Turks/Egyptians. -
I know right. ^_^
Yeah, i noticed but even with the few good points, i also highly doubt it'll happen with the valid reasons.
It'll be fun to host one anyway. ^_^ For the matter of fact, I'll release the sign up/rule set thread tonight.
It seems there it will be highly unlikely for Z8Games to drop the license, so hosting UK Tournaments will definitely be a good start. Hopefully, ESG will begin to grow and perhaps create some tournaments for the UK based teams-it seemed like the UK Cup hosted by tyze received a lot of attention so clearly there is at least a little life in the UK Servers for competition. -
dropping the UK license would obviously remove the UK servers
It's not like the servers are actually based in the UK, they're in Germany, sort of false advertising in a way if you ask me...on which egypts and turks play, two of the biggest and thus most profitable groups.
Exactly, hardly no one plays from the UK, we bring hardly any money into the game these days, let us go, it's not like z8 are going to lose out. -
UK server is full of turks and egyptians that's right but there is still some teams that are decent at UK scene that would take UK tournaments seriously
What's the point of making a second, 10x worse version of CF EU? Why aren't you on CF EU? You could compete there. The main problems are that UK players can't play ESL and other EU'S are playing here making Z8 money when they should probably also be on CF EU. This whole thread is about allowing UK players onto CF EU, if Z8 wants to make money off Turks/Egyptians which have no skill or interest in competition then no ones stopping them. If you're here for fun then no one's stopping you but this isn't about you, this is about the UK players that are unable to play on CF EU. -
And isn't there a forum rule against petitions?
There is, and I have changed the original post and edited the title.
However the title still shows the word petition in the forums...
This is no longer a petition, but a discussion thread, that hopefully z8games will take notice of. -
It seems there it will be highly unlikely for Z8Games to drop the license, so hosting UK Tournaments will definitely be a good start. Hopefully, ESG will begin to grow and perhaps create some tournaments for the UK based teams-it seemed like the UK Cup hosted by tyze received a lot of attention so clearly there is at least a little life in the UK Servers for competition.
All I've heard for years is 'Hopefully' we need to remove that word from our dictionaries, the only option is CF EU. -
It seems there it will be highly unlikely for Z8Games to drop the license, so hosting UK Tournaments will definitely be a good start. Hopefully, ESG will begin to grow and perhaps create some tournaments for the UK based teams-it seemed like the UK Cup hosted by tyze received a lot of attention so clearly there is at least a little life in the UK Servers for competition.
I understand, but why should we have to put up with z8games being stubborn?
Why can't they do something for the players and give us what we really want?
Maybe this doesn't stand for every single english player, but certainly the majority agree with me.
Exactly my point.JoshBritish wrote: »All I've heard for years is 'Hopefully' we need to remove that word from our dictionaries, the only option is CF EU. -
It seems there it will be highly unlikely for Z8Games to drop the license, so hosting UK Tournaments will definitely be a good start. Hopefully, ESG will begin to grow and perhaps create some tournaments for the UK based teams-it seemed like the UK Cup hosted by tyze received a lot of attention so clearly there is at least a little life in the UK Servers for competition.
Been there, done that, too many times over years. It's pointless trying these days. -
It seems there it will be highly unlikely for Z8Games to drop the license, so hosting UK Tournaments will definitely be a good start. Hopefully, ESG will begin to grow and perhaps create some tournaments for the UK based teams-it seemed like the UK Cup hosted by tyze received a lot of attention so clearly there is at least a little life in the UK Servers for competition.
Yeah, I'll release all the info here; in the next hour or 2 it should be up. -
Yeah, I'll release all the info here; in the next hour or 2 it should be up.
No one cares, except the pubstars that are too bad for CF EU and have to stay here and try and form competition. UK players can't play EU and that's what this thread is about. There should be a way of Z8 keeping their money, their license and their Egyptians; allowing the UK players to play EU at the same time. GameRage and Z8 are partnered after all.
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