How are the SL and the M4 equal?

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  • Bruce1nR wrote: »
    Shots fired on your own post is the equivalent of giving yourself a high five.

    Didn't I challenge you to 1v1 Lake Michigan? I'll drown you.

    (jk I love fallout even though he has no manner)

    Lake Michigan. I'm looking out my window and I don't see you. :D

    Hint: I live on the lakeshore
  • JPurvis wrote: »
    Lake Michigan. I'm looking out my window and I don't see you. :D

    Hint: I live on the lakeshore

    I'd beat you, i fly over it everyday.
  • ryangi wrote: »
    Actually if the competitive community doesn't want the item, then it should be banned. Think about what you just said. If the mlb decided to put the base paths to 60'' you think the players would be like mutha fka thats dumb, and the mlb would be like, deal with it make your own league?

    Exactly.
    Players would just boycott the whole competition.
  • great ruleset. ppl who disagree, dont go, ill be taking my grand prize.
  • This whole discussion is pointless.

    You would be an idiot to use the xm8, scarlight, or m12 at LAN. Any team who has played with 5 ping knows why. A certain gun destroys the rest to the point to where you are handicapping yourself to use something else.
  • the_doop wrote: »
    This whole discussion is pointless.

    You would be an idiot to use the xm8, scarlight, or m12 at LAN. Any team who has played with 5 ping knows why. A certain gun destroys the rest to the point to where you are handicapping yourself to use something else.

    So your saying...my 5 man M12 strat is a bad idea...

    (My Team with have two players with XM8's in second bags. If the opposing team uses an XM8 we will pull one out. I'd rather not use them though)
  • Delacos wrote: »
    So your saying...my 5 man M12 strat is a bad idea...

    (My Team with have two players with XM8's in second bags. If the opposing team uses an XM8 we will pull one out. I'd rather not use them though)
    Aren't you the purist.

    Too bad on LAN with 5 ping the AK dominates everything.
  • the_doop wrote: »
    Aren't you the purist.

    Too bad on LAN with 5 ping the AK dominates everything.

    2 Ping with my Fibre Connection in Hamilton

    MP5 > everything ^___^
  • Delacos wrote: »
    2 Ping with my Fibre Connection in Hamilton

    MP5 > everything ^___^
    whats wrong with your name
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    whats wrong with your name

    I got rid of the 1 because of reasons (Ask Saidin)
  • Delacos wrote: »
    I got rid of the 1 because of reasons (Ask Saidin)
    but theres an s now

    why not a dash or something fantastic and awesome like a dot
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    but theres an s now

    why not a dash or something fantastic and awesome like a dot

    I have some self respect with my name. Unlike some other people you may know.
  • Delacos wrote: »
    I have some self respect with my name. Unlike some other people you may know.
    i don't know anyone :<
    why do you keep hurting me when i give you nothing but love!
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    i don't know anyone :<
    why do you keep hurting me when i give you nothing but love!

    Poor dot needs a hug <3
  • I don't want to say anything..

    nor I want to read all pages so.. I will just say my opinion to the video.

    What Denxi said first was pretty much right. The timing is way off, you can't really compare them to one another in a video with normal speed, why no slow motion? Why didn't you get some speeds tested out?

    Seriously.. if you wanna argue about rules.. well. I still think the M4 is a one-tap monster, the SL not. They may both are, but from my point of view nothing can touch the M4 in this part tbh.

    If you really want to make a point, make a well-structured review with exact timings (trust me, I knoe how hard this is..), recorded with at least 120 FPS. There is a guide by GodsGunman in the guide section about how to determinate speeds in Vegas.

    have a nice day!
  • Just follow the rules or don't follow the rules. why is this thread not closed yet?
  • the_doop wrote: »
    behold the daddy of all scar lights

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    Im getting mine now.
  • the_doop wrote: »
    behold the daddy of all scar lights

    20111104_Tw01.JPG

    fap fap fap fap fap fap
  • the_doop wrote: »
    behold the daddy of all scar lights

    20111104_tw01.jpg

    do want!
  • == SL is a OP gun , so much easier to use than m4 , you just need to hold the mouse then bam bam bam headshot , bam bam 2k -3k easy lool
  • Throne_LK wrote: »
    == SL is a OP gun , so much easier to use than m4 , you just need to hold the mouse then bam bam bam headshot , bam bam 2k -3k easy lool

    I don't blame people for being silly (they've parroted that the Scar Light is OP for years now), but when it's proven otherwise...
  • vVvZzxq wrote: »
    If I used any one of the Starred guns in e8 right now people would complain.

    LOL, try using a g36k just for sh!ts and see how well you do, type 89 is decent about M4 ease of use level, XM8 is in the scar light tier, g36k is on par with the ak-74, pay attention
  • I hope people won't use such guns.

    But if the rules are rules, then people will do whatever it takes to win.....
  • Amallo94 wrote: »
    LOL, try using a g36k just for sh!ts and see how well you do, type 89 is decent about M4 ease of use level, XM8 is in the scar light tier, g36k is on par with the ak-74, pay attention

    XM8 comparison versus G36K


    1. G36K deals more damage than the XM8.
    2. G36K has a higher firing rate than the XM8.
    3. G36K has a greater accuracy while scoped than the XM8.
    4. G36K has a better cooldown time than the XM8.
    5. XM8 reloads 0.3 seconds faster than the G36K.

    Edit: All of this applies while players are moving, too.
  • DoubleARE wrote: »
    XM8 comparison versus G36K


    1. G36K deals more damage than the XM8.
    2. G36K has a higher firing rate than the XM8.
    3. G36K has a greater accuracy while scoped than the XM8.
    4. G36K has a better cooldown time than the XM8.
    5. XM8 reloads 0.3 seconds faster than the G36K.

    Edit: All of this applies while players are moving, too.

    1. False, Xm8 does 39-40 damage at 5 meters, G36k does about 34-35
    2. Yes, in fact the only rifle that shoots faster is the FAMAS.
    3. Most people never use the scope on the g36k, most don't use the gun at all because the XM8 is easier.
    4.By cool down I assume you mean recoil return rate? The G36k has recoil rivaling the AKs
    The Xm8s barely jumps from bullet 1-2.
    5. This is also true.

    2/5 correct,

    Like I've said before, I've used this gun for 3 years and I've done my homework. I know for a fact its terrible in comparison with the other weapons in the game. You can tell by the small amount of people that use it compared to the xm8, the xm8 is easy, so is the M4, AK, and all of its variants. you can tap easier with an AK than you can a g36k, and the accuracy is lower on the G36k than most other rifles. CQB is this weapons strong point, while long range is its weakness. It's real life counterpart is the exact opposite.
  • Amallo94 wrote: »
    1. False, Xm8 does 39-40 damage at 5 meters, G36k does about 34-35
    2. Yes, in fact the only rifle that shoots faster is the FAMAS.
    3. Most people never use the scope on the g36k, most don't use the gun at all because the XM8 is easier.
    4.By cool down I assume you mean recoil return rate? The G36k has recoil rivaling the AKs
    The Xm8s barely jumps from bullet 1-2.
    5. This is also true.

    2/5 correct,

    Like I've said before, I've used this gun for 3 years and I've done my homework. I know for a fact its terrible in comparison with the other weapons in the game. You can tell by the small amount of people that use it compared to the xm8, the xm8 is easy, so is the M4, AK, and all of its variants. you can tap easier with an AK than you can a g36k, and the accuracy is lower on the G36k than most other rifles. CQB is this weapons strong point, while long range is its weakness. It's real life counterpart is the exact opposite.


    You're an idiot

    Cooldown is the time it takes the spread to reset to neutral



    The majority of people think that the Scar Light and the m4 are vastly different too, that doesn't make it true
    XM8 statistics.

    5 meters
    Hand/Arm: 28.
    Foot/Leg: 19.
    Back/Chest: 33.
    PA: 40.
    Headshot: 100.

    15 meters
    Hand/Arm: 27.
    Foot/Leg: 19.
    Back/Chest: 33.
    PA: 40.
    Headshot: 100.

    30 meters
    Hand/Arm: 27.
    Foot/Leg: 19.
    Back/Chest: 33.
    PA: 38
    Headshot: 100.

    100 meters Headshot
    Headshot: 100.

    Reload Time: 2.1 Seconds
    Fire Rate: 10.0 Rounds Per Second (RPS)
    Bullets: 30/90
    Total Bullets: 120
    Full to Empty Mag: 2.900 Seconds
    DPS: 283.333

    G36K statistics.

    5 meters
    Hand/Arm: 29.
    Foot/Leg: 20.
    Back/Chest: 34.
    PA: 41.
    Headshot: 100.

    15 meters
    Hand/Arm: 29.
    Foot/Leg: 20.
    Back/Chest: 35.
    PA: 40.
    Headshot: 100.

    30 meters
    Hand/Arm: 28.
    Foot/Leg: 20.
    Back/Chest: 34.
    PA: 38.
    Headshot: 100.

    100 meters Headshot
    Headshot: 100.

    Reload Time: 2.4 Seconds
    Fire Rate: 11.15 Rounds Per Second (RPS)
    Bullets: 30/90
    Total Bullets: 120
    Full to Empty Mag: 2.6 Seconds
    DPS: 310.342
  • DoubleARE wrote: »
    You're an idiot

    Cooldown is the time it takes the spread to reset to neutral



    The majority of people think that the Scar Light and the m4 are vastly different too, that doesn't make it true

    I think you must be mistaken, and rather than stoop down to your level Ill ask you to go check godzgunman guide v1.4.1 which states
    GodsGunman wrote: »
    GodsGunman's Cross Fire Weapons Guide

    XM8
    xm8u.jpg
    ~~5 meters~~
    Hand/Arm: 28, 28.
    Foot/Leg: 19, 19.
    Back/Chest: 33, 39, 40, 39, 39, 39.
    Headshot: 100.
    ~~15 meters~~
    Hand/Arm: 27, 28.
    Foot/Leg: 19, 19.
    Back/Chest: 39, 38.
    Headshot: 100.
    ~~30 meters~~
    Hand/Arm: 27, 27.
    Foot/Leg: 19, 19.
    Back/Chest: 38, 33, 38, 38.
    Headshot: 100.
    ~~100 meters Headshot~~
    Headshot: 100.

    Reload Time: 2.1 Seconds
    Fire Rate: 10.0 Rounds Per Second (RPS)
    Bullets: 30/90
    Total Bullets: 120
    Full to Empty Mag: 2.900 Seconds
    DPS: 283.333

    and also, I use a G36k on a daily basis the second and third shots fly way off, 3 years of experience vs your forum experience bro, get some proof.

    I also love how you truncated the last few damage values off of the xm8 to make your case. If I'm so wrong, show your sources.

    On that note, I bid you adieu and also **** you :)

    Godz Gunmann Guide v1.4.1: forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?p=2633793
  • Amallo94 wrote: »
    I think you must be mistaken, and rather than stoop down to your level Ill ask you to go check godzgunman guide v1.4.1 which states



    and also, I use a G36k on a daily basis the second and third shots fly way off, 3 years of experience vs your forum experience bro, get some proof.

    I also love how you truncated the last few damage values off of the xm8 to make your case. If I'm so wrong, show your sources.

    On that note, I bid you adieu and also **** you :)

    Godz Gunmann Guide v1.4.1: forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?p=2633793





    PA means the max damage from a perfect axis shot
    Which is like, in the stomach



    Damages are based on that and then on a reduced gradient the further away you get from that point




    So like

    The values are the same as his thread, just more clearly defined