Kicking system
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FrozenSyther wrote: »Sigh, did you even read what I said?
And this is why I said this arguement is now pointless. Good luck on your idea.
Same ol' same old right? That is the basis of your argument. "It benefits me it's ok"
Your too lazy to host a room. I can't even be assed to play this stupid game because there is no getting away from noobs kicking.
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Same ol' same old right? That is the basis of your argument. "It benefits me it's ok"
Your too lazy to host a room. I can't even be assed to play this stupid game because there is no getting away from noobs kicking.
What did I miss?
Where in the world did I say I was lazy? Am I lazy because I prefer games already in session? -
GodsLegion wrote: »Dont speak about 'no one', speak about your self,Bob.
Cause there is many players that feel same way i do.
When i say only host should start kick voting, it means Less chances for kicking. 2-3 vote starts only from host...if he wana spend them on anybody,then when real hacker enter room he will realize the truth,but normaly he wont start kick vote.I say better 1 chance for instant kick mayby better from Host only. And i repeat! Its not your job Bob to deal with the hackers,let z8games pros do it.
Most of players when loosing and ungry will press f11 just cause they ungry of loosing .Is it the right way to fight hackers?
And Bob ...dont be ungry...)
And one more thing why voting should be anonymous ? If i believe someone hack i say it,but if i am wrong i should apologize;
The truth is only few payers can seperate real skilled players from
hackers the rest is always unsure;
or just ungry with bad score.
Less chances for being kicked.
Asylum to Host.
Z8games profesionals work on hacking issue.
And Bob you sayd bad word directing to me 'crap'
i take it as insult.
1. Never called you crap. "No one gives a crap" doesn't mean you yourself are crap, it just means no one gives a damn.
2. What's an asylum to host?
3. If only a few players can differentiate people that are legit and people that are hacking, how do you expect the host to not make wrong choices?
As I said before, giving host the ability to kick anyone is an awful idea. It leads to tons of abuse, moreso than it is now, and this has way too many flaws for it to be implemented. -
Well it's quite simple really.
The proposal is to make kicking harder because it is patently far to easy to kick players at present - hence all the complaints about the kick vote system.
The proposal put forth would give me the chance to start playing the game again and would give relief to the others constantly being kicked every day who actually enjoy the game.
The proposal would benefit everyone, anything to the contrary can be dismissed instantly as nonsense.
It severely limits abuses but still enables the kicking of hackers in a well managed room. And any abuse can be circumvented by hosting your own room, not unless you have no faith in your own actions or are too lazy to do so.
It's simple it enables anyone to play and can't be abused without your permission as you would need to join a random room, even then the room may be well managed and if not there are many things in place to deal with it Reporting and xtrap.
Sure a hacker in a badly managed room may not get kicked but they don't always get kicked now.
Sure you may get kicked innocently but guess what the majority of people that get kicked now are innocent.
And as we told you before if these things pain you so much then host a room, resolved 100%.
And the only other arguments you offer is that everyone will make a room and every room will have just 1 player waiting = illogical and false.
If the latter is your main argument then think seriously do you think if this system was brought in not one other game would ever be played ever again?As I said before, giving host the ability to kick anyone is an awful idea. It leads to tons of abuse, moreso than it is now
That is what we have now. The only improvement I can think of is letting one kick enemies too.
Then it would be perfect for the average CF player and I'm sure would be widely supported.:p -
.1. Never called you crap. "No one gives a crap" doesn't mean you yourself are crap, it just means no one gives a damn.
2. What's an asylum to host?
3. If only a few players can differentiate people that are legit and people that are hacking, how do you expect the host to not make wrong choices?
As I said before, giving host the ability to kick anyone is an awful idea. It leads to tons of abuse, moreso than it is now, and this has way too many flaws for it to be implemented.
The right spell would be: I dont care' how many times you get kicked.
Even that way it's sounds awful.
You should care,cause i and many others have an issue that troubles us and we are human beings like your self.Human beings need compassion !
Host "Asylum" means that hes Untouchable'
It takes 'efforts' to create room ,invite people.Its a shame to be kicked from room you created....
Also there can be a report section for Host position abuse if you wish..( a little extreme wish)
but as ~Xfin81~ sayd :
[Nay sayers argue that the Host will abuse a host-only kick vote system. 1 person in a 16 room server... that is 6.25% of the room abusing the kick vote. The same people are supportive of a system that is clearly abusive to legitimate players. Same room with 16 people, 10 people vote yes to a bogus vote. That is at LEAST 62.5% of the room abusing the current system any 1 vote if it goes through.
6.25% vs 62.5%, that seems like a very large discrepancy in what abusive powers could do. I would much rather take my chance with that 6.25% chance..] -
.[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »The problem with giving the host the power to kick everyone is that it would mean the side of the host would win 9 out of 10 times due to wrongful use of the host's power to kick.
The average player is a poor judge of who's playing with hacks and who's just playing better than the average player. And if that better than average player is playing against the host, he'll be kicked without question.
On the other hand, a hacker can play under the radar of his fellow team mates. It's usually the opponent that detects the odd anomalies caused by the hack used first. So if he's playing on the side of the host, and the host can't catch him in the act, even though the opposing players are all convinced this player is hacking, he's very likely to get away with it unless the host kicks him without proof.
And then there is the scenario where the host is the hacker. No one will be able to kick him from the game. And most likely this will motivate hackers to host their own games.
Conclusion: The legit players suffers more in this scenario than the hackers, for every noob and hacker will be hosting rooms, and legit players will get kicked in the one room, and ruined by hackers in the other.
My Favorite Mode!
tnx for the participation!
I never said that Host will have unlimited kick voting options.That means Host will start kick voting more responsible' only in critic situations.
agree on that:~The average player is a poor judge of who's playing with hacks and who's just playing better than the average player~
~On the other hand, a hacker can play under the radar of his fellow team mates~ The radar not working properly ,chek my screenshots...
~It's usually the opponent that detects the odd anomalies caused by the hack used first. So if he's playing on the side of the host, and the host can't catch him in the act, even though the opposing players are all convinced this player is hacking, he's very likely to get away with it unless the host kicks him without proof.~
Maybe "Team Leaders"?..
~And then there is the scenario where the host is the hacker~ Here are 2 options ,
#1. everyone just leave the room, maybe get some penalty...(report)...
#2. leave it on~ My Favorite [MOD]~ wisdom..) -
I like your idea quite a lot. I could have much more faith in one person with the ability to kick rather than every person on either side. If that individual abuses their power then I simply would not play with them as host in the future. It certainly gets boring playing when either you clutch and get kicked for apparently hacking or whatever reasons people come up with. There Has to be something wrong when it feels like you are getting kicked from games more than the actual people who hack. The community is at fault in some regards, but this suggestion is by no means a terrible one.
Some accountability for people who abuse the vote kick system would be nice, but at the end of the day it is a free game, so I don't have much expectations for anything. -
..Picture this: Kicking System is removed. EVERYONE leaves the room when spotting a cheater.
and its go on
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i have to say one thing only about kick voting:
kick voting isnt an option and should be removed
kick voting exists only for hackers,so when the crossfire admins make a security program that
cant be broken by hackers kicking will be removed
but this will never never happen -_- -
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People QQing about rank pointless stuff. ✓"
^ that was my invisible check list.
It is pretty visible, you nerd.
Suggestions are to be suggestions regardless of what fat nerds like you have to say.
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