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  • why pay $10 for a league that didnt follow through with their last time at bat.?
  • Skeena wrote: »
    why pay $10 for a league that didnt follow through with their last time at bat.?

    There was no previous attempt at a league from frostgaming at all. If you are referring to the FrostGaming CUP I'm pretty sure Jon has already stated that doop's real life priorities were more important than FGC. Get your facts straight before you post pure and utter non sense. Unlike FGC, that won't happen again and people will be getting their money's worth that's for sure.
  • So its pretty much like ESEA on counter-strike?
  • Skeena wrote: »
    why pay $10 for a league that didnt follow through with their last time at bat.?

    So true! How about you go play in the OTHER leagues in this game that totally exist!!
  • looking good, just need to figure out and decided on a reasonable price that everyone would pay and not crying over it
  • signed up just to say this:

    you can track kills, round win/loss, bomb plant/defuse by hooking CF
    thing is when you die, no sound is played so not too sure how you would track deaths

    easily programmable into your AC but xtrap might pick it up as a cheat depending on the method you use

    then you could get your AC to send the stats over to your server, therefore making stats automated

    if I have time, I'll write something quickly in C and send the source to whoever the project leader is
  • Wynnv wrote: »
    There was no previous attempt at a league from frostgaming at all. If you are referring to the FrostGaming CUP I'm pretty sure Jon has already stated that doop's real life priorities were more important than FGC. Get your facts straight before you post pure and utter non sense. Unlike FGC, that won't happen again and people will be getting their money's worth that's for sure.

    cup, league
    frost gamings had 1 event(unless mistaken)
    and it fell through
    doesnt matter individuals involved, it was under FG gaming.
    Just stating facts.
    Personally would like to see a full cup or league go through before
    investing in a company. Id be willing to pay $10 a player if FG had consistency.
    Till then FG has a bad rep.
  • Skeena wrote: »
    cup, league
    frost gamings had 1 event(unless mistaken)
    and it fell through
    doesnt matter individuals involved, it was under FG gaming.
    Just stating facts.
    Personally would like to see a full cup or league go through before
    investing in a company. Id be willing to pay $10 a player if FG had consistency.
    Till then FG has a bad rep.


    What are you talking about? It was a cup SUPPORTED by Frost Gaming, maintained by a player within the CrossFire Community. Your intelligence about how it went is beyond me - as well, FG's reputation is bad? Jon has put in more money into this game for his teams, events and god knows what else compared to any other organization that has attempted to assist this community in competitive play and casual events.
  • TGKv2 wrote: »
    What are you talking about? It was a cup SUPPORTED by Frost Gaming, maintained by a player within the CrossFire Community. Your intelligence about how it went is beyond me - as well, FG's reputation is bad? Jon has put in more money into this game for his teams, events and god knows what else compared to any other organization that has attempted to assist this community in competitive play and casual events.

    i look at it with a investors perspective.
    I have nothing against frost gaming, and I am not trying to troll.
    FG cup was under frostgaming name
    The admins are irrelevant.
    And the event didnt pan out.
    "You can't walk into a deal offering applepie, when you only
    offered half an apple last time"
    ^business quote that a prof taught me.
    Listen here, im all for a league in cf. Whats the guarantee that this
    league won't fall through? None.
    I know what Jon's done, appreciate it.
    Its sponsoring 2 top teams.(looks good!)
    Please don't jump down my throat, when im only offering constructive criticism.
  • Skeena wrote: »
    i look at it with a investors perspective.
    I have nothing against frost gaming, and I am not trying to troll.
    FG cup was under frostgaming name
    The admins are irrelevant.
    And the event didnt pan out.
    "You can't walk into a deal offering applepie, when you only
    offered half an apple last time"
    ^business quote that a prof taught me.
    Listen here, im all for a league in cf. Whats the guarantee that this
    league won't fall through? None.
    I know what Jon's done, appreciate it.
    Its sponsoring 2 top teams.(looks good!)
    Please don't jump down my throat, when im only offering constructive criticism.
    It's not constructive criticism, it's complete idiocy. No offence
    The staff is completely going to change, people who were in charge of the FG cup aren't gonna be there.. and you say it's IRRELEVANT?
    What kind of sorcery is this?
  • delNee wrote: »
    It's not constructive criticism, it's complete idiocy. No offence
    The staff is completely going to change, people who were in charge of the FG cup aren't gonna be there.. and you say it's IRRELEVANT?
    What kind of sorcery is this?

    i feel bad for you.
    Offer a free trial product.
    Failed
    Offer a "improved" product
    Ask for price
    ^marketing 101
    I imagine you still in highschool
    I can't break it down any more than that.
    Jon should just get rid of idiots like slaya as admins
    And successfully run a launch tourney himself.
    Wogl launch(successful)
    Wogl-p s1(how many people dropped money?)
    wasnt around then but i imagine launch was free(could be wrong)
    was successful
    wogl-1 season 1 had how many teams pay to play? like 20?
  • Idc what happened in the past, or what's happening in the future with admins or fees. I want to see something happen with the competitive side of cf
  • Fate4Hate wrote: »
    Idc what happened in the past, or what's happening in the future with admins or fees. I want to see something happen with the competitive side of cf

    lmao who r u kid
  • Skeena wrote: »
    i feel bad for you.
    Offer a free trial product.
    Failed
    Offer a "improved" product
    Ask for price
    ^marketing 101
    I imagine you still in highschool
    I can't break it down any more than that.
    Jon should just get rid of idiots like slaya as admins
    And successfully run a launch tourney himself.
    Wogl launch(successful)
    Wogl-p s1(how many people dropped money?)
    wasnt around then but i imagine launch was free(could be wrong)
    was successful
    wogl-1 season 1 had how many teams pay to play? like 20?
    The first frost gaming cup didn't fail. I was a just over a week late getting playoffs out. The teams playing in the frost gaming cup refused to follow the format I put out there which meant I had to rescore every single match. It didn't help that a huge # of matches weren't played so I gave a "mercy" period for teams to play the matches before I gave both teams a FFL.

    Slaya wasn't an admin for Frost Gaming Cup. I was the only admin. I ran the cup by myself. It would of been much easier if the teams playing followed the format I put up (like in the LPK cup which finished without 1 thing going wrong).

    WOGL-Launch wasn't really that sucessful. A majority of the teams didn't even show up. WOGL Launch was a completely different event than WOGL-O/P S1. WOGL-Launch was a straight up single elimination tournament. The quarter finals -> finals were a bo3.

    WOGL-P S1 had roughly 16 EU teams and around 32 NA teams who paid for the "ticket". Of those 48 teams only about 10 took it seriously. A majority died and forfeited. WOGL-O had about ~100 teams in it's bracket. A majority of our matchs were Forfeit Wins.

    Frost Gaming Cup was ran out of an excel file on my computer. WOGL-Launch was a bracket. It is much easier to do a bracket styled tournament as record/points/rounds won/common opponents make no difference, you either advance or are eliminated. Frost gaming cup was a group play -> double elim bracket. Group play gets complicated fast, especially when there are odd number of groups and not the same number of teams between groups (community can't follow simple instructions). The first frost gaming cup was essentially the second LPK cup. My interest in Cross Fire died a few weeks before that cup, because WCG got canceled so LPK as a team didn't exist. I was a backup on HT and said I would run the cup for Jon.

    Essentially all FG did was provide a forum for me to run the event out of and prizes for the winners. Everything else was handled by me. Also since a majority of the teams that were going to be in "Playoffs" were already dead or had completely different rosters than when rosters locked before the first match it was in the best interests to just cancel the cup all together. Maybe 4 teams had the same roster. It didn't really matter because the only decent team still alive was HT. At that time nobody would of been able to compete vs them.
  • I admire doop dedication in the competitive forum , look at that post I admire you DOOP
  • Frost gaming is wanting to create a league and Skeena is still complaining...
  • Skeena wrote: »
    i feel bad for you.
    Offer a free trial product.
    Failed
    Offer a "improved" product
    Ask for price
    ^marketing 101
    I imagine you still in highschool
    I can't break it down any more than that.
    Jon should just get rid of idiots like slaya as admins
    And successfully run a launch tourney himself.
    Wogl launch(successful)
    Wogl-p s1(how many people dropped money?)
    wasnt around then but i imagine launch was free(could be wrong)
    was successful
    wogl-1 season 1 had how many teams pay to play? like 20?
    You're so obnoxious. Why did you even bring slaya into this? FG cup was ran entirely by doop. Clue up, dear
  • doop: best pure rifle in CF



    it's time to hop off his nuts and move on, he's idling around 50% bodyfat and blows on the world stage.
    I'll do as you say if you get on xfire. You are truly missed
  • doop: best pure rifle in CF



    it's time to hop off his nuts and move on, he's idling around 50% bodyfat and blows on the world stage.

    For someone as well educated as yourself i figure you would notice that that was a statement I made about dellz. It seems like you are accomplishing alot in your year off before you go to university. Travelling the world. Smashing dimes. Managing your investments. Oops, you are at your parents house on the forums again.

    As for blowing on the world stage, I've lead my team statistically at both WEM and WCG USA.

    PS: My body fat is 29% and dropping. I've lost 10 lbs in last 2 weeks.
  • Skeena wrote: »
    Jon should just get rid of idiots like slaya as admins

    You are an absolute idiot. I normally would value criticism but when it comes from someone who is completely oblivious and posts without having a clue in the world about what he's talking about, I'll have to pass. I'd rather listen to the horse's mouth not the horse's ass.
  • hold on just got a call from macdermot, scored reservations for seven at l'atelier de joel robuchon i'll get back to you later charlie.

    No reservations at Dorsia, or is that next Saturday?
  • Wynnv wrote: »
    You are an absolute idiot. I normally would value criticism but when it comes from someone who is completely oblivious and posts without having a clue in the world about what he's talking about, I'll have to pass. I'd rather listen to the horse's mouth not the horse's ass.

    calling me an idiot doesnt disprove the fact
    FG product is a flop unless proven they are not.
    disprove it isnt, rather than pretending you are smart by calling me an idiot
  • Frost gaming is wanting to create a league and Skeena is still complaining...

    i wasnt complaining, i was throwing in criticism, till nerds got hyped, saying i dont know what im talking about
  • Skeena wrote: »
    FG product is a flop unless proven they are not.

    If you are comparing a cup with bandicam used as the anti cheat with ONE person running the entire event to an actual league with hours of time and thousands of dollars spent on website coding and anti cheat coding then you really don't know what you are talking about.
  • delNee wrote: »
    You're so obnoxious. Why did you even bring slaya into this? FG cup was ran entirely by doop. Clue up, dear

    first i prove your idiocy, then im obnoxious. im pretty sure slaya was an admin. Outside looking in, doesnt matter who did what.
    Fg league will never happen

    unless they prove that are capable of hosting a league, they shouldnt hold one.
    Fact

    best of luck though
  • Wynnv wrote: »
    If you are comparing a cup with bandicam used as the anti cheat with ONE person running the entire event to an actual league with hours of time and thousands of dollars spent on website coding and anti cheat coding then you really don't know what you are talking about.

    if you took a business course, then you know what i am talking about.
  • Skeena wrote: »
    first i prove your idiocy, then im obnoxious. im pretty sure slaya was an admin. Outside looking in, doesnt matter who did what.
    Fg league will never happen

    unless they prove that are capable of hosting a league, they shouldnt hold one.
    Fact

    best of luck though

    You aren't proving anyone's idiocy aside from your own by continuing to post absolute gibberish and pulling assumptions out of your ass. I was never an admin for frostgaming cup and if I was it would of been successful. Did you completely ignore what doop posted?

    We've proven time and time again we have the money and the resources to host a league. No one is losing sleep if you don't play or approve, not like you'd find 4 people who can put up with you any way.
  • Skeena wrote: »
    if you took a business course, then you know what i am talking about.

    I'd ask for a refund.

    1) If you buy a ticket to play in a league, you aren't an investor you are a consumer.
    2) If you are looking at investing you should focus more on the product/service itself than the past history of the proposer.
  • Swag your way to sexyness.
    doopLPK wrote: »
    PS: My body fat is 29% and dropping. I've lost 10 lbs in last 2 weeks.

    The 'water weight' drops the fastest. The hard part is yet to come. Remember to have a good diet, physical activity (cardio), and persistence.