Is "Re-logging" considered cheating?
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BadMonkey666 wrote: »Just explain it to me, why is it okay to re-join a round? Don't you think it is unfair? If it is not unfair, then why don't we change it so everybody respawns instantly after they die in SnD?
Because when you disconnect to rejoin:
1) Your previous stats don't count towards your profile.
2) You get desertion on your profile.
3) You might not even get back in the room before the 2:00 mark.
4) You pretty much throw away any chance at getting the ACE/MVP boosts.
5) People in pubs take far too long to do anything worth while.
No it isn't unfair, because by them leaving the round they give up all positioning/map control they had giving you a huge advantage regardless of health. Personally I would love for there to be a respawn timer in crossfire. It is by far one of my favorite mechanics from RtCW/ET. I think it would make for great objective based play in crossfire.
To be honest you just need to get better; killing people who respawn isn't very hard at all. You know exactly where they are starting from and what possible angles/spots they could be playing at what timings. -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »You can't play 2 times in the same round. You can always rejoin the server but you have to wait until the round restarts.
Unreal Tournament, Team Fortress and Call of Duty
Yes you can. It depends on the server config setup. With some config options you don't even have to leave the server, you can just join spectators and switch teams/rejoin yours. -
TheRealCoon wrote: »You can't rejoin in clan servers, it's impossible. Also this is not an abuse this is just using what the games give you aka you have till the 2:00 mark to rejoin. If you die in the first 30 sec you might kill him again pretty fast, In some games I even got 300 damage on some people because they rejoin. Stop crying about it it's a public free game and a public match, if you don't like it play competition games aka scrim aka clan war which rendrer the rejoin impossible.
This game is super easy even a kitten could play (no joke my kitten could play melee games and kill some people)Glitches that allow you get underneath the map and shoot people from there are also provided by this game. -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »You guys do realize that this is not only unfair because you have 2 lives while your enemy has only 1 but also forbidden in any other game. Try to re join a room in counter strike or any other game and you wont be able to play until the round restarts.
You should have changed your weapon before you join the game.BadMonkey666 wrote: »It is the same in every game. It's not just cs, this is common senses.
The player that rejoins the round plays again, therefore he has 2 lives and that's against the rules.
Just because this game didn't forbid it doesn't means that it is a good thing to go.BadMonkey666 wrote: »Just because you guys do it, doesn't means that it is a good thing.
You can't play 2 times in the same round. You can always rejoin the server but you have to wait until the round restarts.
Unreal Tournament, Team Fortress and Call of Duty don't allow you to re join a round. Crossfire is the only game I know that doesn't clocks them.
Just explain it to me, why is it okay to re-join a round? Don't you think it is unfair? If it is not unfair, then why don't we change it so everybody respawns instantly after they die in SnD?BadMonkey666 wrote: »Some of us just come to play for fun and we want to play on public games. public games must be fair too.
You come to play for fun, but keep complaining about a benign game play issue. You continue to wrongly use other games as examples.
You say that rejoining is against the rules, well to be frank it isn't.
http://www.z8games.com/termsandcondition_crossfire.aspx
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Don't forget the rapid sideway stepping to bypass the spray pattern, the quickscopers that bypass the out-of scope inaccuracy of their sniper rifles, oh, and the double jumpers that climb on top of crates.
No, I mean ACTUAL glitching. Stepping through a wall, a floor, or a crate kind of glitching. Don't be a wise-ass, doop. It's unbecoming.
Did you know double jumping was banned at WEM 2010 finals in china, by the administrators? -
doophwaiting wrote: »1) Your previous stats don't count towards your profile.
They count, or farmers could just leave the room without 150 deaths.
If you mean the score in the room, that socre doesn't matters anyway.doophwaiting wrote: »2) You get desertion on your profile.
This is still not a reason to allow them to play a round two times, the desertion is not that bad at all.doophwaiting wrote: »3) You might not even get back in the room before the 2:00 mark.
2 minutes are quiet long and most of the players manage to get back in.doophwaiting wrote: »4) You pretty much throw away any chance at getting the ACE/MVP boosts.
not if it is the first round or you had a score of 0-5doophwaiting wrote: »5) People in pubs take far too long to do anything worth while.
Pro players play in public games too.doophwaiting wrote: »To be honest you just need to get better; killing people who respawn isn't very hard at all. You know exactly where they are starting from and what possible angles/spots they could be playing at what timings.
Just because you know where they spawn doesn't means that you know where exactly he is.doophwaiting wrote: »Yes you can. It depends on the server config setup. With some config options you don't even have to leave the server, you can just join spectators and switch teams/rejoin yours.
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1 Vs. 1
Kitten Vs jjhawk
He died 2 months ago....
Btw it is fair to do so because freck, if it was just a new nobody joining and "fairly" get in the room what would you think ? Wouldn't it be unbalanced to ?
Also it's a public game, it's like when you play with your friends at some game, sometimes they cheat to. When you play in your living room at halo against each other and check the screen of your mate to see where they are ain't it cheat to ? Do you kick them in the face when they do so ? Same goes here, you don't want to play funny games with public ? Get a password and play with friends or go ahead and find a clan to cw.
Finaly this is not glitching we talk about, they do not abuse a inch of a miss mapping, they do not get any advantage to do so overall. They simply relog and revive while you could do so to. So gg it's just mad kids crying about pub. -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »They count, or farmers could just leave the room without 150 deaths.
Sorry mate, they don't count. Next time a mission has get X kills, get 10-15 kills or so and leave before the game is over. Your mission won't be updated nor will your stats page.BadMonkey666 wrote: »If you mean the score in the room, that socre doesn't matters anyway.
It doesn't count in the score room, mission page, badge page, or on your z8games.com profileBadMonkey666 wrote: »This is still not a reason to allow them to play a round two times, the desertion is not that bad at all.
Just how people care about their K/D ratio; some people care about their desertions and refuse to leave a room no matter how many hackers/cheaters there are.BadMonkey666 wrote: »2 minutes are quiet long and most of the players manage to get back in.
You only have 30 seconds to rejoin. After the 2:00 minute mark on the round timer, if you rejoin you don't respawn.BadMonkey666 wrote: »not if it is the first round or you had a score of 0-5BadMonkey666 wrote: »Pro players play in public games too.
I'm thinking of avoiding them; I would hate to run into more people like you. Might be contagious.BadMonkey666 wrote: »Just because you know where they spawn doesn't means that you know where exactly he is.
Not exactly where he is, but you know a majority of the possibilities. Sorry you aren't good enough to fully understand this concept. Maybe one day.BadMonkey666 wrote: »Show me one single server with this config.
Every single esea server, before the lo3 config. There's plenty of for fun servers out there that have rejoining enabled.
Your whole argument is invalid anyways. Crossfire already has the option of disabling rejoining in rooms. The fact that you are too incompetent to use it and you would rather complain about it is quite entertaining.
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TheRealCoon wrote: »He died 2 months ago....
Btw it is fair to do so because freck, if it was just a new nobody joining and "fairly" get in the room what would you think ? Wouldn't it be unbalanced to ?
Also it's a public game, it's like when you play with your friends at some game, sometimes they cheat to. When you play in your living room at halo against each other and check the screen of your mate to see where they are ain't it cheat to ? Do you kick them in the face when they do so ? Same goes here, you don't want to play funny games with public ? Get a password and play with friends or go ahead and find a clan to cw.
Finaly this is not glitching we talk about, they do not abuse a inch of a miss mapping, they do not get any advantage to do so overall. They simply relog and revive while you could do so to. So gg it's just mad kids crying about pub.
Sigh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
That might be of use to you. -
i agree on this even when badmonkey say it. its not fair that he got 2 lifes when you just got one.BadMonkey666 wrote: »Talking to you use pretty pointless...
Anyway, this is not the same, people should be able to join the round in middle of the game, they shouldn't play two times in the same round.
also doop your pic is useless because if you start and set it unable to join no one can join so you have to start with 16 people right away if you want a full team.
but your saying its fair to have 2 lifes in the same round when no one else do? -
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No it isn't fair, but you have the same option available to you. Is it fair that people have armor/headgear when others don't? Not really.L_OVER_BO_Y wrote: »i agree on this even when badmonkey say it. its not fair that he got 2 lifes when you just got one.
also doop your pic is useless because if you start and set it unable to join no one can join so you have to start with 16 people right away if you want a full team.
but your saying its fair to have 2 lifes in the same round when no one else do?
So set it 5 round victory and wait for 16 people to join. It's not hard especially if you invite friends/clan members to fill a room up quickly.That don't solve the problem. Reason being isbecause by not allowing players to join after the game is started the game basically just ends due to everyone quitting.
It does solve the problem. You just don't like the side effects of the solution. -
doophwaiting wrote: »
It does solve the problem. You just don't like the side effects of the solution.
No, it doesn't stop people from joining the game, it stops people from joining the room. If they were in the game and leave, they can still join back. -
No, it doesn't stop people from joining the game, it stops people from joining the room. If they were in the game and leave, they can still join back.
Never tried it as I don't really care.
My first solution still stands. Get better, and just kill them again. -
And I should be banned if I make that mistake?BadMonkey666 wrote: »You guys do realize that this is not only unfair because you have 2 lives while your enemy has only 1 but also forbidden in any other game. Try to re join a room in counter strike or any other game and you wont be able to play until the round restarts.
You should have changed your weapon before you join the game. -
doophwaiting wrote: »No it isn't fair, but you have the same option available to you. Is it fair that people have armor/headgear when others don't? Not really.
So set it 5 round victory and wait for 16 people to join. It's not hard especially if you invite friends/clan members to fill a room up quickly.
please headgear/bodygear is fair.
its made by the game and its the only way to use it. also you have to buy zp for it.
its a advantage you buy to get some more damage. but rejoining allow you to have 2 lifes in one round thats unfair. because you dont want to wait so you rejoin like a noobie.
but the rejoin is unfair because you get 2 lifes and you dont buy zp for it. so the game wased made to do that. they did the 2:00 mark so people could join if they join the game and are abit late.
as for your pic of the room well you think people join it now these days? also after they left they can join again abit later or other people cant join aswell.and each game got people leaving. -
L_OVER_BO_Y wrote: »please headgear/bodygear is fair.
its made by the game and its the only way to use it. also you have to buy zp for it.
its a advantage you buy to get some more damage. but rejoining allow you to have 2 lifes in one round thats unfair. because you dont want to wait so you rejoin like a noobie.
but the rejoin is unfair because you get 2 lifes and you dont buy zp for it. so the game wased made to do that. they did the 2:00 mark so people could join if they join the game and are abit late.
as for your pic of the room well you think people join it now these days? also after they left they can join again abit later or other people cant join aswell.and each game got people leaving.
armor + hp = 100 + 100 = 200
reconnected = hp + hp = 100 + 100 = 200
200=200
seems fair to me. -
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lol, explain how it isn't
Without armour a hs is 100 dmg. With armour, it takes 2 hs's to do 100.
Yeah... youre doing 200 damage... That doesnt mean they have 200 hp... Its not the same...
A headshot then a body shot will still kill them. Thats less than 200
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