[OFFICIAL] April Patch Discussion - DISCUSS IT HERE ONLY
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Who knows if it's coming?[MOD]D34d3y3 wrote: »Also, STOP BEGGING FOR THE BARRETT. As of now, the devs don't plan on putting it in our version, and unless something changes over there it's not coming to NACF. Stop posting about it.
Because Deadeye is never wrong.
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The game will be dead when there isn't one player in a server.
Still not true.
tell me, please, dear MOD, can this game exist without ppl, who spend his money in game? If you don't get money - you haven't money to paid for hosting servers, power supply, network channels...
So - WHY Z8Games make SO STUPID marketing?
IMHO, if you want to get more money - you must sale MORE goods... but you increase prices... rent weapons... I think - that way can lead Z8Games ONLY to bankruptcy... If you don't trust me - read the Capital by Marx
Trust me... VERY interesting book, when you read it, you can understand more in business
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tell me, please, dear MOD, can this game exist without ppl, who spend his money in game? If you don't get money - you haven't money to paid for hosting servers, power supply, network channels...
So - WHY Z8Games make SO STUPID marketing?
IMHO, if you want to get more money - you must sale MORE goods... but you increase prices... rent weapons... I think - that way can lead Z8Games ONLY to bankruptcy... If you don't trust me - read the Capital by Marx
Trust me... VERY interesting book, when you read it, you can understand more in business 
brs, turks dont even go on the forum, i think they are getting plently of money...like the royal dragon crate -
brs, turks dont even go on the forum, i think they are getting plently of money...like the royal dragon crate
so... that game going to be a shooting range between rich and stupid kids (smart kids will purchase a usual FPS with multiplayer ability for battles in Web), and poor, but ambitious kids with different hacker software...
That's very bad. I think, in that case that game will die in 1-2 years... Probably faster, if somebody run a new free FPS with good gameplay and smart marketing... -
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Nonnen my friend people will not leave.But they will be disapointed.First of all every other game community have poll before a patch:
what they want
what they DONT WANT
and they start rethinking the idea
In z8games there is no such a thing.They do what ever they want instead asking people what they think about that idea.
I'm in this game allready 3 years and this was my first mmofps game where i was staying longer(in cs i was 1,5 years)
It's all right that we dont need to know what is behind closed doors of z8games about the idea on upcomming patches and weapons or maps.
But i dislike that removing perm weapons for 90 day **** will be a great idea and it will bring more people.
I want to see statistic how many people would exchange every 3 months a wrench or machete.
First of all we probably get every day 60 or 90 players into this game(i'm only guessing idk the statistic) which is big plus for this.But it doesnt get into my mind that when new people see awm camo today(and he badly wants it)but tomorrow would be gone.He would be disapointed because z8games made choice removing perm for temp weapons.
Which reminds me from before when i started to play this game (when i was new into this game).
This ISN'T logical thing from z8games to do this.
lol same shti happened to me when i stated gaming... as i first time looked at the storage i see the awm camo on youpons and fought yeah i definitly want this **** and so i started spending zp... but know? why should i spent zp fo getting crap for 90 days? some months ago i wanted to get shovel for 300 days + but i waited because i was tired to spent zp on guns i*ve already so i waited for another patch.. and after thsi patch i have to see oh yeah nice they removed the shovel for coupon exchange great gg z8games i fought and stoped playing.. and i all i thought is if i will start playing again i will never spent zp again!! only if they make cf like it was when i started playing not much hackers/to non hacker good weapons you can get for zp/gp -
So "Blindnate" got a infraction, just because he said his opinion about things and asked questions?
Well, you will know what the best is to do. I'm just saying you said that the two top tiers ib the coupon exchange will stay permanently. So don't say then they aren't gonna replace both snipers with temporary weapons. Paying 130 € for having three months of fun in a game - just "lol".
But I say always again my future quote :
The legend says
there were permanent weapons in the coupon exchange" - CrossFire veteran players in 3 years. -
for a 90 days
aExtinction wrote: »I hope your wrong. I want new weapons that are actually good and not a waste of a coupon spot
*cough*SL8*cough*
Lol. I'm wrong. Or so 9 says.
But from what I can c it just mite. Why else would u post a pic of a map and a gun that's already in the game?
Just my opinion. 9 would know more after all. -
tell me, please, dear MOD, can this game exist without ppl, who spend his money in game? If you don't get money - you haven't money to paid for hosting servers, power supply, network channels...
So - WHY Z8Games make SO STUPID marketing?
IMHO, if you want to get more money - you must sale MORE goods... but you increase prices... rent weapons... I think - that way can lead Z8Games ONLY to bankruptcy... If you don't trust me - read the Capital by Marx
Trust me... VERY interesting book, when you read it, you can understand more in business 
your right z8games will lose playes or customers ...
so i hope you guys can understand what i am tying to ask..
what happens if z8games cant running cf? will we all lose our acc and datas we spent into the game or what? will another cooperation buy cf? ore will some players make a privat cf with updates and maybe another zp systhem or even pay 1 time for cf and play?
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[GM]Saidin wrote: »I never said there was only 1 gun being removed. The context of the discussion was in light of the upcoming patch. Not previous updates. In that case then yes, the Black Market changes have been a series of changes which have removed some "easier to acquire" permanent weapons from the Black Market.
I know exactly how many are being exchanged and how many ZP temp are being purchased. At current stats over the last 3 months, more people have purchased the Bushmaster ACR than the PSG-1 Red Dragon, infact the number is almost doubled. (and that includes the fact that people have known for a few days now that their last opportunity to exchange for the PSG-1 RD is right now)
If this was the case you wouldn't have any permanent weapons except the ones in the ZP Crates, we would have less gp permanent weapons than most versions of CF, Gold weapons would be an impossibility. Coupons would only give temporary weapons (for all categories). Dog Tags would reward you with name cards and sprays instead of usable in-game items, and we certainly wouldn't have the reward types we have with Ribbons, events and other such outlets.
If the straight up argument is that we as the publishers have had zero influence on the number of permanent weapons that have been available in the game, then that argument is false. Because we have had an incredible amount of influence.
Has the permanent weapons in the black market affected the growth of the game from the average users perspective? Yes, because we are seeing less people have a desire to exchange for multiple permanent weapons past the first one. Do the developers (Smilegate) feel the need to act on this? Yes. Temporary weapons is their solution. We agree with their decisions even if it is not the most ideal. And continue to influence them so that as LITTLE permanent weapons can be removed as possible. The top 2 tiers in the Coupon Exchange area are remaining permanent.
We always send input to Smilegate, especially with dealing with these issues. And changes were going to come to the Black Market coupon exchange system. Whether or not we were powerless to stop it or not, the changes weren't all that bad and could have positive affects on the growth of the game from the general perspective of newer users.
Well obviously there would be more people getting the bushmaster than psg red dragon. The bushmaster is only 2k-3kzp for seven days. The amount of money it takes to get a psg red dragon is much more. I hope you dont expect people to randomly spend hundreds of dollars trying to get the psg red dragon when you announce that it will be removed only 4 or 5 days before a patch. I have never seen ANYONE use the bushmaster in game after a few weeks it came out. -
I've already infracted you for continuing the debate. I'll do it again if need be.
All that means is that he made a good point and you felt butt hurt about it...
...and since when can someone making a valid point on a FORUM FOR OPEN DISCUSSION be infracted for stating the facts?
If you want the forum to look like fields of flowers and gumdrops why not just ban us all and have an automated script always post good things about the company...you wouldn't infract someone for brown-nosing, so why infract for deferring Z8's line of thought... >_> -
Mate dont discuss you will just get infracted. I'm dumb and blind and they are smart.Let it go.I made my opinions in right place,but they are prooving otherwise let it go.I'm really disapointed because you dont have any rights to talk about something what is wrong and what is right.leave it be.i dont want to discuss about this what i saw from z8games staff including moderators and this is maybe a reason that i should never even post any single thread anymore on this forums.i'm thinking about quiting to be active on forums talking with people.I will be active just to see what is new to come.But i'm done talking with them until probably forever.All that means is that he made a good point and you felt butt hurt about it...
...and since when can someone making a valid point on a FORUM FOR OPEN DISCUSSION be infracted for stating the facts?
If you want the forum to look like fields of flowers and gumdrops why not just ban us all and have an automated script always post good things about the company...you wouldn't infract someone for brown-nosing, so why infract for deferring Z8's line of thought... >_>
I'm still running community for the Zombie mode.I will probably try asking them to play ZM again.
So atm i'm just thinking to quit be active on forums thats all.I will still play this game. -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »The best part about patch previews is that they aren't over!
yay?
So many people complaining about temps in coupons and then ask for more gp guns... What? If you can only afford gp guns, why do you care about coupons?... Not like you'll get more than 2.
Got what I wanted from coupon exchange, and I got a wrench not too long ago. It was actually worth the coupons to make getting the silent soldier ribbon bearable. Just hope to maybe see a little rebalancing of crates, like more coupons, meaning GP amounts may need to be touched up a bit, as coupons would take up a few of the 1000 gp spots.
But hey, whatever, GP shop is 10000000x better than people realize anyway... -
temp guns is only for noobs who made free zp/or dont buy ZP..
its 2k~3k for few days..
to get a psg-RD you need like a 150 ZP crates with luck
to get 70 coupouns..
so..
the temp guns is 75x more easy to get..
but..
WILL NEVER STAY ON YOUR STORAGE.
I HATE MY TEMP GUNS..
I GOT 700 DAYS FROM TYPE 89
110 FROM FAMAS CAMO..
AND I HATE THAT..
WONT BE ON MY ACCOUNT 4EVER..
ITS SUCKS..
THE PPL's WHO CAN BUY ZP ALOT..
LIKE ME..
CAN EXCHANGE THE GOOD ITEMS FROM BLACKMARKET/COUPONS..
ITS GOOD , CUZ NOW I GOT NICE PERM WEAPONS..
I BOUGHT AWM CAMO PERM, PSG RD IN THE SAME DAY..
ITS EASY? NO..
I BOUGHT 160K ZP..
AND IT ISNT EASY.
~300BRL R$
I hate the temp guns because all got it..
I will NEVER exchange a temp gun from coupons..
its rly sucks 4 me
70 coupons 4 a gun 90days?.
150 zp crates 4 a gun 90days?
in 90 days i buy 150k of zp -.-
its sucks..
i buy zp every month..
ALOT..
but im not rich so much..
nobody here is..
its a game 4 teens..
the teen ppls dont got 500US$ 4 week..
its impossible -.-
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