[OFFICIAL] April Patch Discussion - DISCUSS IT HERE ONLY
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Oh sure god bless me,i was blind but now i'm found.
9 read my previous comment you would understand.
2 perm guns removing from 70 coupons for some kind of ****y meele weapon is pathetic.
So it wasnt announced at all:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=205412
READ IT PLS!!!
i beg you because i'm ****ing blind now.you can call me now BlindNate if i can see there 2 weapons on that announce.
How in the world can you be sure that it is being replaced by a melee weapon? Assumptions. Read Hi Tip #2.Oh, you mean like how you tell people to hush up after they push tons of money into worthless temp ZP crates?
Do I? I'm pretty sure I don't. -
Let me put this simple for those of you who let your emotions clog your mind being mad about changes in a game.
It doesn't matter what you want personally, you won't get everything you want. It matters what will keep the game going in the future.
They're doing what is best based on their statistics, what they've seen, what information they have.
It's not Z8Games (G4Box's) choice what happens in the game. That is not their job, content/features of the game are designed by the developers. If you want to complain, learn some korean and get a plane ticket, go to their office, and tell them how you feel. You'll probably be put in jail though, because if you can't control your emotions on a forum post, you probably can't directly to them either.
The way most of you respond is plain sad. There is a right and a wrong way to give your opinion and state your mind. Insulting someone, anyone, is not something we will put up with.
It's not your right to have these weapons, it's not your right to play this game. If you don't like the changes, then leave. The uninstall button is only a few clicks away. And the community would be better off without some of the posts we get from some of you anyway.
Go after someone for mistyping a number, saying they don't know what they're doing. It's funny when they're the ones making the paychecks, and you're the one insulting someone on a forum. -
Then he must tell people the truth. He must say that he's useless. That would be quite better then him trying to explain the developer's decisions as "correct" because we all know they aren't.GM Saidin doesn't have the power you think he has. Sure he is the Manager but it doesn't mean he gets to pick and choice what to sell and how much. Think of this is a McDonalds, the Manager gets supply's for Corpret and it shows them how much they sell it for. Same in this case.
What p""sses me off is that he knows that the game is becoming worse and worse, yet he still tries to promote all the sh*t that's happening as "exciting" and "awsome". If he truly swallows all this feces from the developers and really thinks that people buy more temporary guns then permanents ...
Got save us then ... -
Just another thing.
If you don't like what's happening, leave. You're still a consumer. Unless you go and make your own game, the chances are that you'll either come back, or go to another game.
You'll still be a consumer no matter what. Consumers buy for themselves. It's normal to be mad once things don't go a consumer's way.Then he must tell people the truth. He must say that he's useless. That would be quite better then him trying to explain the developer's decisions as "correct" because we all know they aren't.
What p""sses me off is that he knows that the game is becoming worse and worse, yet he still tries to promote all the sh*t that's happening as "exciting" and "awsome". If he truly swallows all this feces from the developers and really thinks that people buy more temporary guns then permanents ...
Got save us then ...
Then leave, you're not needed here if all you do is attack the system. There's the door, I don't want to see you out. -
GM Saidin doesn't have the power you think he has. Sure he is the Manager but it doesn't mean he gets to pick and choice what to sell and how much. Think of this is a McDonalds, the Manager gets supply's for Corpret and it shows them how much they sell it for. Same in this case.
...except the manager at McD can SUGGEST to the regional managers promotional events...
Not to mention they can give discounts at the register (and yes, I know that cause I was just at McD yesterday and they gave someone a discount for something).
All Saidin is is a talking head. He has no will on his own (truthfully), he's just the PR guy.
He'd lie to your face if Z8 told him to. -
...except the manager at McD can SUGGEST to the regional managers promotional events...
Not to mention they can give discounts at the register (and yes, I know that cause I was just at McD yesterday and they gave someone a discount for something).
All Saidin is is a talking head. He has no will on his own (truthfully), he's just the PR guy.
He'd lie to your face if Z8 told him to.
You don't think he does? Then I guess you didn't know that Saidin fights hard to get us alot of stuff for free, he doesn't have to but he does. -
...except the manager at McD can SUGGEST to the regional managers promotional events...
Not to mention they can give discounts at the register (and yes, I know that cause I was just at McD yesterday and they gave someone a discount for something).
All Saidin is is a talking head. He has no will on his own (truthfully), he's just the PR guy.
He'd lie to your face if Z8 told him to.
And you're saying that Saidin can't do anything that you said?
You're making assumptions, read Hi Tip #2. -
That would be quite better then him trying to explain the developer's decisions as "correct" because we all know they aren't.
So you know eh?
So I take it you also know my middle name, you know what kind of car I own? You know what my paycheck is? You know what my best friend's eye color is?
You're god.
So tell me Mister God, what's to come in my late future? Will I be following my acting, or will I be living in a van down by the river?
Also, please tell me why CrossFire worldwide has millions upon millions of players if they're doing so much wrong. -
They're doing what is best based on their statistics, what they've seen, what information they have.
Wow, even you start to pour scat now? Dude are you blind? Go outside and tell me how much RX-7 users you'll find compared to how much perm AWM-Camo users you'll find! Show me your statistics then! I can't believe that even you are getting into this!It's not Z8Games (G4Box's) choice what happens in the game. That is not their job, content/features of the game are designed by the developers. If you want to complain, learn some korean and get a plane ticket, go to their office, and tell them how you feel. You'll probably be put in jail though, because if you can't control your emotions on a forum post, you probably can't directly to them either.
Yeah, well why don't the administration says so then? If the administration are a piece of trash without any actual administration control, we DESIRVE to know it.The way most of you respond is plain sad. There is a right and a wrong way to give your opinion and state your mind. Insulting someone, anyone, is not something we will put up with.
It's not your right to have these weapons, it's not your right to play this game. If you don't like the changes, then leave. The uninstall button is only a few clicks away. And the community would be better off without some of the posts we get from some of you anyway.
Oh really? Well it's not your right to lie to us, and it's not your right to feed us bullsh*t like "temporary weapons are needed". And you can ban me, but my right on freedom of speech is still there, so if I want to tell you what I think about you, I'll do it.Go after someone for mistyping a number, saying they don't know what they're doing. It's funny when they're the ones making the paychecks, and you're the one insulting someone on a forum.
Oh, I believe them actually know what they're doing. They are trying to feed us more sh*t and more expensive one, and you're here to help them. Well it's funny for someone to try to tell that they're doing the right thing when they're the ones knowing that you're the full of feces. -
Ok i'm ****ing changing my forum name from DNate54 to BLINDNATE because i'm ****ing blind.I didn't saw that in previous announcement there will be removing only 1 weapon instead 2.
I'm 100% sure that the replacement will not be a melee weapon, which is what you questioned to me about. -
Are you a moron? How much money you have to waste to get 70 coupons? And all this for 90 days of pixels? Dude, I'll ask you again, ARE YOU A MORON?!
I don't even care about coupon weapons and I don't spend zp. People who are likely to spend their average money on crates get quite a lot of coupons. I've heard people spend $1000 on Cross Fire and spin crates, it seems likely to get a decent weapon out of the coupon system, this is also why they changed the system a bit.
We're not having a war with you. We and the mods are telling the truth. It's just a game.
Buying guns in CF aren't important, it's the skill that counts. -
What will you do when all of your consumers leave? You know, I'm here exactly for that. To pull as much people as possible away from all this cr*p you're trying to feed us.Just another thing.
If you don't like what's happening, leave. You're still a consumer. Unless you go and make your own game, the chances are that you'll either come back, or go to another game.
You'll still be a consumer no matter what. Consumers buy for themselves. It's normal to be mad once things don't go a consumer's way.
Then leave, you're not needed here if all you do is attack the system. There's the door, I don't want to see you out. -
Wow, even you start to pour scat now? Dude are you blind? Go outside and tell me how much RX-7 users you'll find compared to how much perm AWM-Camo users you'll find! Show me your statistics then! I can't believe that even you are getting into this!
Yeah, well why don't the administration says so then? If the administration are a piece of trash without any actual administration control, we DESIRVE to know it.
Oh really? Well it's not your right to lie to us, and it's not your right to feed us bullsh*t like "temporary weapons are needed". And you can ban me, but my right on freedom of speech is still there, so if I want to tell you what I think about you, I'll do it.
Oh, I believe them actually know what they're doing. They are trying to feed us more sh*t and more expensive one, and you're here to help them. Well it's funny for someone to try to tell that they're doing the right thing when they're the ones knowing that you're the full of feces.
You aren't an administrator, nor a developer, nor a moderator. You don't know anything compared to any of the aforementioned characters about what goes on behind the stage. You can't make assumptions based on what you see, as what you're supposed to see is right there. What you're not supposed to see hasn't been revealed to you, as it's supposed to be.
You do not have freedom of speech on this board, you agreed to a terms of service, which restricts what you can and can't do.
Once again, you're uneducated when it comes to Z8Games and SmileGate, because you haven't had the chance to become educated. That's nobody's problem.
Your comments are not needed.What will you do when all of your consumers leave? You know, I'm here exactly for that. To pull as much people as possible away from all this cr*p you're trying to feed us.
Consumers will keep consuming, you aren't even a fraction of a percent of the revenue. Others appreciate this addition as they already have had the money and chance (it's been there for 3 years, why are you complaining?) to get the items.
It's also true that if you cause too much trouble for what you're worth, you aren't needed. -
but my right on freedom of speech is still there,
I stopped right there.
You made me laugh thinking you have a freedom of speech.
Let me give you a little hint, G4Box being a private company owns this site as a private site.
Your freedom of speech doesn't exist. You don't have freedom of speech with any private companies.
If you want to know more about that, talk to Grey, he'll give you one long as speech about how you have no freedom of speech what-so-ever.What will you do when all of your consumers leave? You know, I'm here exactly for that. To pull as much people as possible away from all this cr*p you're trying to feed us.
I'm sure millions of people love you enough to do that.
Most people won't even F11 a cheater when a Moderator says to, and you think you could get enough people out of this game to make a difference? -
Second of all, following the couple of months that we had patches, over 5 permanent weapons were removed. That's not "just one less gun". Again, basic mathematics, and if you are stupid enough to not understand that plural =/= 1, then don't assume that all of us are.
I never said there was only 1 gun being removed. The context of the discussion was in light of the upcoming patch. Not previous updates. In that case then yes, the Black Market changes have been a series of changes which have removed some "easier to acquire" permanent weapons from the Black Market.
I know exactly how many are being exchanged and how many ZP temp are being purchased. At current stats over the last 3 months, more people have purchased the Bushmaster ACR than the PSG-1 Red Dragon, infact the number is almost doubled. (and that includes the fact that people have known for a few days now that their last opportunity to exchange for the PSG-1 RD is right now)Now, your claim that no one buys PSG1-RD ... Okay, maybe that's quite true. I have one and there's quite a lot of people having one, but ok. But removing all the other weapons IS NOT JUSTIFIED.
Also, temporary weapons are bought even LESS them PSG-1 RD. Don't you dare telling me that's not true because you'll make me want to bash your face through your screen and force you to find RX-7/LR300/AKs-74u/ACR Bushmaster users and to count how much of them there are so you finally get how stupid and ridiculous your words are.
If this was the case you wouldn't have any permanent weapons except the ones in the ZP Crates, we would have less gp permanent weapons than most versions of CF, Gold weapons would be an impossibility. Coupons would only give temporary weapons (for all categories). Dog Tags would reward you with name cards and sprays instead of usable in-game items, and we certainly wouldn't have the reward types we have with Ribbons, events and other such outlets.Now, that you have no control over the game's state, is a different thing. But that doesn't means that you must hide it by saying that "these "solutions" are needed."
Why don't you just tell people the truth for once: That you're useless junk without any decision nor real power over the game. That's what's happening. Your ass is being busted by the developers, but instead of saying it, you are pretending that they do the right thing.
You are pitiful, hypocrite, exceptionally mentally weak and above all useless. I don't even know why SmileGate doesn't directly hosts the game themselves but uses you instead. And to be honest, I don't even want to know. There's nothing interesting about tools.
If the straight up argument is that we as the publishers have had zero influence on the number of permanent weapons that have been available in the game, then that argument is false. Because we have had an incredible amount of influence.
Has the permanent weapons in the black market affected the growth of the game from the average users perspective? Yes, because we are seeing less people have a desire to exchange for multiple permanent weapons past the first one. Do the developers (Smilegate) feel the need to act on this? Yes. Temporary weapons is their solution. We agree with their decisions even if it is not the most ideal. And continue to influence them so that as LITTLE permanent weapons can be removed as possible. The top 2 tiers in the Coupon Exchange area are remaining permanent.
We always send input to Smilegate, especially with dealing with these issues. And changes were going to come to the Black Market coupon exchange system. Whether or not we were powerless to stop it or not, the changes weren't all that bad and could have positive affects on the growth of the game from the general perspective of newer users. -
read the Hi tip no.2 pls
http://forum.z8games.com/showpost.php?p=2926253&postcount=425
This is the post that started this debate. Read it again.
I'm done with this discussion. The community baffles me at how many, time over time, they can disappoint and assume that they are the top. The selfishness of the community actually scares me to the point that I'm concerned about if you actually act like this in real life. -
I know what weapons we are getting.
3 New Snipers.
1 New melee weapon.
2 New rifle guns.
HOW I KNOW THIS>?
I AM A Z8GAMES SPY...
You're wrong.
Oh I'm sorry, I mean...
4 New Snipers.
1 New melee weapon.
2 New rifle guns. -
What will you do when all of your consumers leave? You know, I'm here exactly for that. To pull as much people as possible away from all this cr*p you're trying to feed us.
My sentiment exactly. I hope it hits them where it hurts most.In the pocket.I haven't bought zp in a couple of months and i own all the coupon weapons i need.I have no desire to waste money on zp with the inevitable failure of winning a gun only to spend coupons on a load of temp garbage.Z8 is the puppet while the developers pull all the strings.I guess if we want annswers we must learn korean and speak to the organ grinder not the monkeys.
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