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[GM]Saidin wrote: »But unfortunately that is changing and there may be other users who want to try something new.
You know what I wanna try...
...a GP knife that doesn't suck. Seriously, what is it gonna take for those idiots at NeoWiz to release at least ONE DIFFERENT GP knife...
Because it's totally fair playing Knife-Arena and going against 5 shovels, 2 Katanas, 1 Kukuri, 1 Axe, and getting your ass handed to you because you have a knife has the reach of paraplegic newborn baby... ):[ -
but still i would understand for the psg1 red but awm camo is too much.But why not adding the PERM WEAPONS instead adding temporary!!![GM]Saidin wrote: »You do not own the PSG-1 Red Dragon. The removal of this gun was inevitable since no one was exchanging for it. Content which comes in will be temporary however we have not announced what it will be yet. The PSG-1 Red Dragon has been in the game for well over a year. On your main you have had 3 years to purchase this weapon.
You are upset about the fact that there is one less permanent weapon which you never exchanged for in the first place.
This gives new content to someone who may want to use coupons to exchange for something that may not be available elsewhere in the game. Temporary or otherwise. Judging by the history on your account and these 3 weapons in this section of the coupon exchange this change should not affect you at all.
We have unique options from other versions. And those are still remaining. Permanent Gold weapons from the coupon exchange, permanent weapons from the BP mall, permanent weapons from ribbons, and permanent weapons from events.
We appreciate the enthusiasm of the people on these forums, and the fact that they want access to the idea that there is a permanent weapon they will never exchange for/purchase/want. But unfortunately that is changing and there may be other users who want to try something new.
You still didnt understand what i did said!!
why not adding something permanent that people HAVE REASON to buy zps!!
You are just not making any SENSE!!!
you guys just removing old weapon for new temporary ****.which is pathetic from my side.You didnt even ask people do they want new perm weapon for the coupons.
because adding that ****(from my side) it just is lack of the ideas for the coupons.
I mean cmn if i could be a GM i would ASK people what they want. -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »You do not own the PSG-1 Red Dragon. The removal of this gun was inevitable since no one was exchanging for it. Content which comes in will be temporary however we have not announced what it will be yet. The PSG-1 Red Dragon has been in the game for well over a year. On your main you have had 3 years to purchase this weapon.
You are upset about the fact that there is one less permanent weapon which you never exchanged for in the first place.
This gives new content to someone who may want to use coupons to exchange for something that may not be available elsewhere in the game. Temporary or otherwise. Judging by the history on your account and these 3 weapons in this section of the coupon exchange this change should not affect you at all.
We have unique options from other versions. And those are still remaining. Permanent Gold weapons from the coupon exchange, permanent weapons from the BP mall, permanent weapons from ribbons, and permanent weapons from events.
We appreciate the enthusiasm of the people on these forums, and the fact that they want access to the idea that there is a permanent weapon they will never exchange for/purchase/want. But unfortunately that is changing and there may be other users who want to try something new.
Why are you removing the AWM camo? Lots of players still want to get it. At least before if someone spends $100-$200 on zp and still didnt win anything they could get a permanent weapon from coupons. But now spending $100-$200 and you might not win from the blackmarket and your choice is to get a weapon for 90 days is a joke. -
but still i would understand for the psg1 red.But why not adding the PERM WEAPONS instead adding temporary!!!
You still didnt understand what i did said!!
why not adding something permanent that people HAVE REASON to buy zps!!
You are just not making any SENSE!!!
you guys just removing old weapon for new temporary ****.which is pathetic from my side.You didnt even ask people do they want new perm weapon for the coupons.
because adding that ****(from my side) it just is lack of the ideas for the coupons.
I mean cmn if i could be a GM i would ASK people what they want.
Yep, THAT was he going to say. Don't consider everything as a QQ post.
It is a fact that he is trying to say. I know we all begged for new coupon guns, but not temporary ones. -
All players in this game don't buy zp , so if you add some weapons for 60 70 coupons at if it'll be for 90 days , nobody could buy it (90% of players), so , this players want some GP or Event permenant weapons etc. Why from the since of this game we never see an permanent weapon for 10 coupons ? , Or why you changed the ' 5 d.e. scope crate for crap xm8 90 days ? , whatever from this 5 crates , the poor players , or the guys who don't buy zp, will get some coupon from this crates.And if you want to make some exchange weapons make it for 7 days or 30 or 90 , exemple 2000 zp for 7 day macheta etc.But 60 coupons for a melee is alot man.For 60 coupons some times we need more than 100 K zp.
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but still i would understand for the psg1 red.But why not adding the PERM WEAPONS instead adding temporary!!!
You still didnt understand what i did said!!
why not adding something permanent that people HAVE REASON to buy zps!!
You are just not making any SENSE!!!
you guys just removing old weapon for new temporary ****.which is pathetic from my side.You didnt even ask people do they want new perm weapon for the coupons.
because adding that ****(from my side) it just is lack of the ideas for the coupons.
I mean cmn if i could be a GM i would ASK people what they want.
Permanent weapons at that level were not an option given to us. Additionally, if we asked everyone what they want they would say they want an account with 1 of every weapon and all of them permanent. Unfortunately that is never going to happen. Smilegate wouldn't allow that. -
You guys have to essentially remember that coupons are an added variable that is meant to make the Black Market more interesting. It was never guaranteed that items in the Coupon system would be permanent, nor that they would stay there forever.
It's the developer's game, they are allowed to do what they please with it. Coupon systems were promised to be coming, the details were never discussed. We can't just go around giving everybody free permanent weapons, or everyone will have everything. There has to be a sense of exclusive content.
I don't have either, I'm not complaining. The PSG-RD and the AWM Camo aren't the only two snipers in the game. -
60 is wrench mateFrightLess wrote: »All players in this game don't buy zp , so if you add some weapons for 60 70 coupons at if it'll be for 90 days , nobody could buy it (90% of players), so , this players want some GP or Event permenant weapons etc. Why from the since of this game we never see an permanent weapon for 10 coupons ? , Or why you changed the ' 5 d.e. scope crate for crap xm8 90 days ? , whatever from this 5 crates , the poor players , or the guys who don't buy zp, will get some coupon from this crates.And if you want to make some exchange weapons make it for 7 days or 30 or 90 , exemple 2000 zp for 7 day macheta etc.But 60 coupons for a melee is alot man.For 60 coupons some times we need more than 100 K zp.
70 it will be machete -
Oky so im not gonna get the awm camo, JUST BECUASE i think the melee gonna be Perm
PLEASE RELEASE A BP WEAPON.
Better be Perm melee. Bte lol i told yall in a post about the melee. Death Reaper :P This goes to the one that said NERVER HAPPENING XD
And here it is. -
You guys have to essentially remember that coupons are an added variable that is meant to make the Black Market more interesting. It was never guaranteed that items in the Coupon system would be permanent, nor that they would stay there forever.
It's the developer's game, they are allowed to do what they please with it. Coupon systems were promised to be coming, the details were never discussed. We can't just go around giving everybody free permanent weapons, or everyone will have everything. There has to be a sense of exclusive content.
I don't have either, I'm not complaining. The PSG-RD and the AWM Camo aren't the only two snipers in the game.
You are right, there are also AWM-Camo[T] and PSG RD[T].
Just kidding. Yes, there is the FR-F2, AWM-RD (Crates) and the SL8. -
I don't have the AWM Camo. I'm not complaining. But I am gonna spend ZP in an utter futile attempt to try to win a weapon in a crate, and at the same time hopefully accumulate enough coupons for a redeem.
Question : Would you play a shell game with on the street corner with your rent money?
And what type of crack are you smoking... -
Oky so im not gonna get the awm camo, JUST BECUASE i think the melee gonna be Perm
PLEASE RELEASE A BP WEAPON.
Better be Perm melee. Bte lol i told yall in a post about the melee. Death Reaper :P This goes to the one that said NERVER HAPPENING XD
And here it is.
The Knife will be temp. 90days 70 coupons! -
The game changes.... So what...? Every business has to make money to make a profit.
Some of the money goes to Smilegate, x-trap, Z8games stuff, Servers etc... Have you ever considered that?
At the end, I don't think Z8games will get that much of a profit. -
Still 9 it doesnt make sense at all.I don't have the AWM Camo. I'm not complaining. But I am gonna spend ZP in an utter futile attempt to try to win a weapon in a crate, and at the same time hopefully accumulate enough coupons for a redeem.
Admin aka Saidin said that only it will be removed psg1r
why now decide to remove also a awm camo?
No SENSE AT ALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!
Like i said in previous comments.Ask people do they want TEMP GUNS IN COUPONS!!!
it doesnt cost money to ask them.It costs only time. -
The game changes.... So what...? Every business has to make money to make a profit.
Some of the money goes to Smilegate, x-trap, Z8games stuff, Servers etc... Have you ever considered that?
At the end, I don't think Z8games will get that much of a profit.
They will get much more releasing more permanent weapons and not 1-2 temporary every patch !! -
but they could add it on item shop.Cmn mate think for a second.The game changes.... So what...? Every business has to make money to make a profit.
Some of the money goes to Smilegate, x-trap, Z8games stuff, Servers etc... Have you ever considered that?
At the end, I don't think Z8games will get that much of a profit.
profit goes if they put it that people can buy it on item shop for 7-30-90(like kukri and other weapons)
Adding that kind of weapons on coupons its pathetic. Especialy on 70!!
like i said lack of ideas for coupons will make people less play this game and less buying zps. -
Keep your trap shut if you don't know what you're talking about.[GM]Saidin wrote: »You do not own the PSG-1 Red Dragon. The removal of this gun was inevitable since no one was exchanging for it. Content which comes in will be temporary however we have not announced what it will be yet. The PSG-1 Red Dragon has been in the game for well over a year. On your main you have had 3 years to purchase this weapon.
You are upset about the fact that there is one less permanent weapon which you never exchanged for in the first place.
This gives new content to someone who may want to use coupons to exchange for something that may not be available elsewhere in the game. Temporary or otherwise. Judging by the history on your account and these 3 weapons in this section of the coupon exchange this change should not affect you at all.
We have unique options from other versions. And those are still remaining. Permanent Gold weapons from the coupon exchange, permanent weapons from the BP mall, permanent weapons from ribbons, and permanent weapons from events.
We appreciate the enthusiasm of the people on these forums, and the fact that they want access to the idea that there is a permanent weapon they will never exchange for/purchase/want. But unfortunately that is changing and there may be other users who want to try something new.
First of all, it's not one permanent gun less but two. AWM-C + PSG1-RD = 2. 2 =/= 1. Return in elementary school if you have weird mental slowness.
Second of all, following the couple of months that we had patches, over 5 permanent weapons were removed. That's not "just one less gun". Again, basic mathematics, and if you are stupid enough to not understand that plural =/= 1, then don't assume that all of us are.
Now, your claim that no one buys PSG1-RD ... Okay, maybe that's quite true. I have one and there's quite a lot of people having one, but ok. But removing all the other weapons IS NOT JUSTIFIED.
Also, temporary weapons are bought even LESS them PSG-1 RD. Don't you dare telling me that's not true because you'll make me want to bash your face through your screen and force you to find RX-7/LR300/AKs-74u/ACR Bushmaster users and to count how much of them there are so you finally get how stupid and ridiculous your words are.
Now, that you have no control over the game's state, is a different thing. But that doesn't means that you must hide it by saying that "these "solutions" are needed."
Why don't you just tell people the truth for once: That you're useless junk without any decision nor real power over the game. That's what's happening. Your ass is being busted by the developers, but instead of saying it, you are pretending that they do the right thing.
You are pitiful, hypocrite, exceptionally mentally weak and above all useless. I don't even know why SmileGate doesn't directly hosts the game themselves but uses you instead. And to be honest, I don't even want to know. There's nothing interesting about tools. -
Still 9 it doesnt make sense at all.
Admin aka Saidin said that only it will be removed psg1r
why now decide to remove also a awm camo?
No SENSE AT ALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!
Like i said in previous comments.Ask people do they want TEMP GUNS IN COUPONS!!!
it doesnt cost money to ask them.It costs only time.
The AWM Camo has already been announced to be removed. See the OP to find the link detailing it. -
Keep your trap shut if you don't know what you're talking about.
First of all, it's not one permanent gun less but two. AWM-C + PSG1-RD = 2. 2 =/= 1. Return in elementary school if you have weird mental slowness.
Second of all, following the couple of months that we had patches, over 5 permanent weapons were removed. That's not "just one less gun". Again, basic mathematics, and if you are stupid enough to not understand that plural =/= 1, then don't assume that all of us are.
Now, your claim that no one buys PSG1-RD ... Okay, maybe that's quite true. I have one and there's quite a lot of people having one, but ok. But removing all the other weapons IS NOT JUSTIFIED.
Also, temporary weapons are bought even LESS them PSG-1 RD. Don't you dare telling me that's not true because you'll make me want to bash your face through your screen and force you to find RX-7/LR300/AKs-74u/ACR Bushmaster users and to count how much of them there are so you finally get how stupid and ridiculous your words are.
Now, that you have no control over the game's state, is a different thing. But that doesn't means that you must hide it by saying that "these "solutions" are needed."
Why don't you just tell people the truth for once: That you're useless junk without any decision nor real power over the game. That's what's happening. Your ass is being busted by the developers, but instead of saying it, you are pretending that they do the right thing.
You are pitiful, hypocrite, exceptionally mentally weak and above all useless. I don't even know why SmileGate doesn't directly hosts the game themselves but uses you instead. And to be honest, I don't even want to know. There's nothing interesting about tools.
How comes Z8 Games and him gave you Cross Fire if they still needed to go to elementary school? They gave Cross Fire to Z8 Games because Smilegate aren't an English games specialist. You can't just talk to mods and GMs like that when they do lots of hard work bringing back stolen accounts, organize events for you and even the new patches. We are very lucky to have [GM] Saidin here and if we didn't have him, well back to Call of Duty.
It's the player's choice to buy the temp weapons. You, the forumers have suggested that you don't want anymore reskins to temp weapons yet you are still raging that you have fresh new guns.[GM]Saidin wrote: »You do not own the PSG-1 Red Dragon. The removal of this gun was inevitable since no one was exchanging for it. Content which comes in will be temporary however we have not announced what it will be yet. The PSG-1 Red Dragon has been in the game for well over a year. On your main you have had 3 years to purchase this weapon.
You are upset about the fact that there is one less permanent weapon which you never exchanged for in the first place.
This gives new content to someone who may want to use coupons to exchange for something that may not be available elsewhere in the game. Temporary or otherwise. Judging by the history on your account and these 3 weapons in this section of the coupon exchange this change should not affect you at all.
We have unique options from other versions. And those are still remaining. Permanent Gold weapons from the coupon exchange, permanent weapons from the BP mall, permanent weapons from ribbons, and permanent weapons from events.
We appreciate the enthusiasm of the people on these forums, and the fact that they want access to the idea that there is a permanent weapon they will never exchange for/purchase/want. But unfortunately that is changing and there may be other users who want to try something new.
He's 100% right.
Just because the PSG-1 RD is removed from coupons, that doesn't mean it's gone forever. You can get it from the Nightmare Crates for about 7 Days but not many people like it.
It's your choice, would you rather want an underpowered plastic sniper forever or a fast right-clicking meelee weapon for 90 days. Look, 90 day is a really long time because I used to have a Field Shovel for 90 days but after using it quite a while, i got bored of it and couldn't think of ways to make use of it.
I might be annoyed that a permanent weapon has been released to replace a temp weapon, that doesn't mean it's the end of Cross Fire. The old weapons, they were reskins that you said that you didn't like so Z8 Games add fresh new weapons to replace it for 90 days. Z8 Games have a long dale to cross through before any of your suggestions get added to Cross Fire so Z8 Games will not pamper you like a baby.
You waited 3 years for a weapon to pass by when you could collect the same amount of coupons from GP crates to get it. Not very clever isn't it. -
I'm not upset over the game, but I'm upset about hypocrites and liars, which the said [GM]Saidin is without hesitation.brutalambush wrote: »Sad that you should get so upset over a game or the changes made to it. Calling a GM names or anyone else is a tribute to your own weak mind.
@ Call2Death > Are you a moron? How much money you have to waste to get 70 coupons? And all this for 90 days of pixels? Dude, I'll ask you again, ARE YOU A MORON?! -
i understand you emotive.besides.Gm saidin your game is a bit bad on tracking.If you can read my previous tickets you would know that i had psg1r but i refunded.So i'm not "mad" that you removing 2 weapons.It's only 1.Keep your trap shut if you don't know what you're talking about.
First of all, it's not one permanent gun less but two. AWM-C + PSG1-RD = 2. 2 =/= 1. Return in elementary school if you have weird mental slowness.
Second of all, following the couple of months that we had patches, over 5 permanent weapons were removed. That's not "just one less gun". Again, basic mathematics, and if you are stupid enough to not understand that plural =/= 1, then don't assume that all of us are.
Now, your claim that no one buys PSG1-RD ... Okay, maybe that's quite true. I have one and there's quite a lot of people having one, but ok. But removing all the other weapons IS NOT JUSTIFIED.
Also, temporary weapons are bought even LESS them PSG-1 RD. Don't you dare telling me that's not true because you'll make me want to bash your face through your screen and force you to find RX-7/LR300/AKs-74u/ACR Bushmaster users and to count how much of them there are so you finally get how stupid and ridiculous your words are.
Now, that you have no control over the game's state, is a different thing. But that doesn't means that you must hide it by saying that "these "solutions" are needed."
Why don't you just tell people the truth for once: That you're useless junk without any decision nor real power over the game. That's what's happening. Your ass is being busted by the developers, but instead of saying it, you are pretending that they do the right thing.
You are pitiful, hypocrite, exceptionally mentally weak and above all useless. I don't even know why SmileGate doesn't directly hosts the game themselves but uses you instead. And to be honest, I don't even want to know. There's nothing interesting about tools.
-sarcasm- -
Oh sure god bless me,i was blind but now i'm found.The AWM Camo has already been announced to be removed. See the OP to find the link detailing it.
9 read my previous comment you would understand.
2 perm guns removing from 70 coupons for some kind of ****y meele weapon is pathetic.
So it wasnt announced at all:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=205412
READ IT PLS!!!
i beg you because i'm ****ing blind now.you can call me now BlindNate if i can see there 2 weapons on that announce. -
GM Saidin doesn't have the power you think he has. Sure he is the Manager but it doesn't mean he gets to pick and choice what to sell and how much. Think of this is a McDonalds, the Manager gets supply's for Corpret and it shows them how much they sell it for. Same in this case.
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