AK47 Custom (clean version)
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dont u think the AK aready has too much good things if that comes up that may be the new scar light AK is powerful and accurate what more can u ask now u want it with a M4A1 custom scope and silencer EVERYONE will wnt itNo, I do not. I don't look at power stats alone, like you do. I take its recoil into account as well. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The AK-47 is just as balanced as the M4A1, meaning the AK-47 Custom will become just as balanced as the M4A1 Custom. Any argument you'll have against this logic, will automatically be rendered invalid.
And what's wrong with suggesting a gun everyone would like to have?
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom FN Five-seveN Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops -
No, I do not. I don't look at power stats alone, like you do. I take its recoil into account as well. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The AK-47 is just as balanced as the M4A1, meaning the AK-47 Custom will become just as balanced as the M4A1 Custom. Any argument you'll have against this logic, will automatically be rendered invalid.
And what's wrong with suggesting a gun everyone would like to have?
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom FN Five-seveN Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops
its like saying the PERFECT type of weapon in crossfire
power 100
accuracy 100
wieght 0
reciol 0
ammo 100/1000
i know thats like aim.bot but its an exaple its like an scar light with HUGE BUFF -
its like saying the PERFECT type of weapon in crossfire
power 100
accuracy 100
wieght 0
reciol 0
ammo 100/1000
i know thats like aim.bot but its an exaple its like an scar light with HUGE BUFFIts a stupid example, since its a AK-47 with a suppressor, and nothing more than a AK-47 with a suppressor. There is no stat buff. In fact, the stats I gave it are pretty much all, with the exception of accuracy, worse than the stats of the regular AK-47.
So you got to do better than this if you are planning on criticizing my work, kid.
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom FN Five-seveN Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops -
Its a stupid example, since its a AK-47 with a suppressor, and nothing more than a AK-47 with a suppressor. There is no stat buff. In fact, the stats I gave it are pretty much all, with the exception of accuracy, worse than the stats of the regular AK-47.
So you got to do better than this if you are planning on criticizing my work, kid.
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom FN Five-seveN Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops
well how do u think i can out smart a 5th grade teacher T.T -
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True. I've always seen the M4-Custom to be the counterpart to the AK-Scope, and this gun would completely make it uselessSpectacOne wrote: »Erm...All i really like is the suppressor and stats, only recoil and weight should be higher. Only the ak-S has a scope already so this would make that pretty obsolete.
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M4-Elite is just a reskin of the custom w/ zoom scope.But M4 elite has a silencer!
True. I've always seen the M4-Custom to be the counterpart to the AK-Scope, and this gun would completely make it useless
I believe there's an M4-Scope in the other versions. -
SpectacOne wrote: »Erm...All i really like is the suppressor and stats, only recoil and weight should be higher. Only the ak-S has a scope already so this would make that pretty obsolete.True. I've always seen the M4-Custom to be the counterpart to the AK-Scope, and this gun would completely make it useless1. it isn't a scope, but a red dot sight. The AK-47 Scope has a zoom scope. And 2. The semi-automatic fire while using the red dot sight makes it entirely different from the AK-47 Scope.
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom FN Five-seveN Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops -
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Due to continuous trolling leading to non-stop flaming, I had a moderator close the old thread (after 54 pages). I've made some minor alterations to my original idea, which might please some of the few opposing this idea.
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Power: Has been reduced from 96 to 95.
Accuracy: Has been increased from 95 to 98. (AK47 Scope, Silver and Gold are all 97)
Automatic: Has been reduced from 52 to 50.
Recoil: Has been kept the same, 76.
Weight: Has been increased 49 to 50
Also:
+5 Ammo bonus.
A red-dot scope similar to the M4A1 Custom.
Semi-automatic while scoped-in.
A suppressor, that lowers the sound level of the AK47 by 2/3.
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Okay, to stop this thread from being flooded by people saying "We already have an AK47 Scope", like the old thread, let me say that it's not. First of all, this weapon is as different from the AK47 Scope as the M4A1 Custom is from the M4A1 Advanced or Silver. Just because it has a scope doesn't mean it is an AK47 Scope. Second, this scope is completely different from the AK47 Scope. Not only is it a red-dot scope, like the M4A1 Custom scope, but zoomed in, its fire rate is also reduced to semi-automatic. Meaning it with fire as fast as the PSG-1 Red Dragon or the MSG90 while scoped in. So it's not full auto, as with the AK47 Scope.
And finally, what also makes it different from the AK47 Scope, is the obvious added suppressor and the skin.
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Now to tackle the "AK47 is suppose to be loud" and "The AK47 can't use a suppressor, because..." posts. First of all, the loudness of the AK47 is due to both its ammo size, as well as the design of the weapon. This is true. However, this does not mean that the AK47 MUST be loud to function properly. Thus the suppressor. Can an AK47 be custom fitted with a suppressor? Yes, it can. If sniper rifles with even larger bullets can be customized to carry suppressors, then so can the AK47.
When you look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQCAKGcUi0c
you can see both the AK47 and the AK47 suppressed being fired next to one and other. If you think that both sound the same, then you should listen for the echo of the shots when fired. That's where there is a noticeable difference.
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And now for the "But we already have tons of AK47's. Why not customize the <insert weapon of choice here> instead?" posts. Well, for one, the M4A1 and the AK47 are signature weapons for this game. So you can better get used to it, because in the coming years we are going to see a lot more copies of these weapons. That's why we might as well start off with this one. And two, I like this weapon to become a custom, like the M4A1.
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And finally, the "The AK47 Custom would be too overpowering." posts. First of all, let me break it down for you, using some basic algebra;
M4A1 = AK47
Both weapons are considered to be balanced. The M4A1 has low power, and low recoil. The AK47 has high power, and high recoil. Now the M4A1 has a Custom version, and its stats has been altered to be made balanced enough for this game. So;
M4A1 = M4A1 Custom
Since the added pros of the suppressor and scope are counteracted by added cons on the stats and spray pattern, customization itself is kept balanced. So;
Custom = 0
And if that is true for the M4A1 Custom, then the same would apply for the AK47 Custom;
AK47 = AK47 Custom
Also, the sound of the AK47 is not going to be reduced to the spitting sound the M4A1 Custom makes. Because the regular AK47 is noticeably louder than the M4A1, the AK47 Custom will also be noticeably louder than the M4A1 Custom.
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So, now that I've covered most of the common replies that oppose this concept, I'll ask you; If you have anything to add, that doesn't fall into the above 4 mentioned type of posts, please do so below.
Fabulous! The recoil rates should be reduced by a near -3 because of the silencer . also if put in the game it should be a coupon gun. they have 3 m4a1 guns but only 2 ak's . great job -
Sorry, maybe someone mentioned this already, but where are you getting the numbers for this? 96 97 98 doesn't really mean anything to me, because the numbers are all relative. Can you translate this into actual damage and other quantifiable stats? Feel free to use GodsGunman's weapon guide for some existing stats. If you had an idea in mind already, that's fine. Frankly I'm too lazy to speculate.
As a side note, I think that the dev's figured a 3hit rifle with a scope on it might be a little OP, which is why they effed up the stats on the AK scope, but the ROF you suggested in-scope seems pretty reasonable and not likely to interfere with existing game balance.
Oh, and in relation to the whole "AK is supposed to be loud" thing, I think maybe the game's intended to have a AK vs M4 thing going on with BL vs GR. As a terrorist, maybe you're not thinking about subtlety and ranging. This idea has been up for a while now, and z8 is probably not touching it because they want something a little more terrorist-y. Hence the AK knife and the ungodly overpowered AKS74U. That said, AK's really got the short end of the stick here as far as mods and reskins. I don't think going a touch more toward a middleground with less power and a little more finesse would hurt the feel of the game at all. I see the suppressed version working, but I doubt they'll give you the scope along with it. -
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