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Enough with the STEALTH NERFS on ZM weapons! WE PAID MONEY TO UPGRADE THEM!
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"Have ZM weapons been nerfed?"
Yes."
I do not know what moderators you are talking about, but in Discord and forum only Abel and Bunni have been seen.
Our content does not exactly mimic CF China. Comparing to another version is not evidence, unfortunately.
As for asking about the moderators, each moderator has their own things to do as well. Simrock for example is one of the main contributors to the CrossFire Wiki functions. Zzxq is related to competitive league casting. Etc, etc. However, the moderators and what they do are not your concern, and is not the topic at hand. Lets not forget the ZM issues you guys and myself want to figure out. To do this I would need you guys to help prove what you're claiming. -
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So to prove that the weapons have been nerfed WE have to supply video evidence from the time before the nerfing happened to compare damage.
Well I do not see that happening in a hurry. What are the chances of having video evidence from when everything was working perfectly? There would be absolutely no reason to save video footage from something that had no problems at the time.
We are told that the weapons have Not been nerfed.
Maybe we just come on to make a post for the fun of it.
Maybe we all got together to make the whole thing up.
Maybe we are just having a bad dream.
Maybe we just imagine our weapons have been nerfed.
Maybe we are being treated like 5 year olds here.
Respect to all you players out there that raised your concerns on this issue.
I think you all see what is happening here.
It is all very very clear. -
OK ok ok, so they didnt nerfed zm weapons. But something happened to some weapons special damage attack. They do less or even 0 damage compared to last year/s. Just play EMD Lab, start and press F and right click. And try to kill one zombie. just try it. It's impossible when the weapon Fal Camo Stray does 0(zero) damage. What more evidence you need?
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If someone used to filming them-selves while gaming, would be kind enough to film while playing the maps where the AK-47 grenades does no damage, maybe Mr K would accept that as proof.
I have never filmed my self, so I wouldn't know how to. (except maybe filming a crappy screen-film using my mouth as a holder for my smart-phone)
Because if we need to provide before and after proof there is a problem
Why would we have filmed our self playing, if there was no problem and therefor no reason to film.
Now that we have a reason, we can't travel back in time to shoot the film and any film we shoot now, won't show how it was and is worthless in that regard.
Catch 22 anyone?JackPain (Sweden) -
-On a note of personal annoyance, stop with the whole "money we payed YOU". Yes, you purchased ZP and received items with that ZP and as a company we are grateful for it. if we dont buy ZP how you can get pay from your company ? lol guys stop pay this piece of **** game
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[QUOTE=[GM]Kanadian;n6930724]
Our content does not exactly mimic CF China. Comparing to another version is not evidence, unfortunately.
As for asking about the moderators, each moderator has their own things to do as well. Simrock for example is one of the main contributors to the CrossFire Wiki functions. Zzxq is related to competitive league casting. Etc, etc. However, the moderators and what they do are not your concern, and is not the topic at hand. Lets not forget the ZM issues you guys and myself want to figure out. To do this I would need you guys to help prove what you're claiming.[/QUOTE]
Kanadian you know why Mods gets everytime Involved in this?
Its because like in this thread it took over 1 Months to Actually to get any Reply out of someone that can Actually Contact Admins without getting instant a restriction, and even get an Reply on it. Thats what i Already Mentioned in a other Post even i think already a Year ago and a few Weeks ago, when Adminstration doesnt even Reply and look over its on Forum and at least Try to stay Connected with the Player Community then you know there is a massive Problem with it.
Just look the threads up since 10 Years there are the same and same Threads over the Same Problems/Suggestions where rarely, maybe even 1 out of 40 Started Suggestions any Admin will comment under, and yeah Discord exists, but not all will join Discord, simple reason for me that i Left Crossfire Discord was, i had a Problem and got instant Time Restriction (i think i was blocked from Communication on the Discord there for 1 Month) and i got this Punishment for a Rule that isnt even wrote down in the Rules Channel, and Nobody Cared at all, so when you treat players in the Discord and Punish them alone for Rules that are Made up by the older Discord Community, and as a New incoming Discord member you get instantly punished and you cant even read this rule on the Discord server, so yeah your Discord Server is Dead for me, since i was treated without any respect.
And that yours isnt the Mimic of CF China of course, then we would be Able to get more out of the Game, since 10 Years how many Stuff we got Actually for not need to Pay Zp? How many things we got in the over 10 Years alone in item shop under Weapons for GP new? nearby nothing, youre Treating New Players better then the CF Veterans that kept your Game Alive where your whole Company wasnt Able to Fix that Massive Cheater Problem and now its "solved" like it never happend, instead to really give that Players that lost a lot of Time Playing against the Cheaters, and lost so a lot of Gp/Event Time/ExP for it.
That Adminstration that is here for the Forum isnt even able to Run it Correctly, Most New Created Threads, are still so bugged after Days you have to reload 5-6 Times until you can open that Thread even when its a few days old.
I could Actually Write you 2-3 Pages with the Problems that accumulated over this Years, but since i dont even know If any Member of the Adminstration Cares, i wont waste my Time, until a Adminstration Member Actually Shows interest to actually Read7Hear them, and Actually want to Change something.
But Yeah to Close that Gap and Actually bring the Community and Admin/Game Devs again together, it takes the will to do it so, and in the Last 5-6 Years it showed more and more (at least felt like that) that the Company Member dont care at all, and this is whats bringing the Rage in the Players up, and there it brings nothing to Complete waste a Plattform and switch to a new one, where mostly Players will follow to put Money arround your mouth, just to get Stuff for Free.
And with this im Out
BananaJoes -
From which Zpmbie Mode map you need a Recording?
Crater dawn since we already have an old video for comparison.
Or any of the other maps that the grenades are now useless on if you can find an old vid of a player using the gun on the same map. -
Crater dawn since we already have an old video for comparison.
Or any of the other maps that the grenades are now useless on if you can find an old vid of a player using the gun on the same map.
alright im gonna look if i can do it to get a recording of it -
Okay, as I've said before I am unsure if the previous guns have been nerfed but I believe Kanadian that as far as he knows, and as far as any of us can prove they have not been.
Now, while the righteous shotgun grenades spam bug was overpowered and needed a fix, the development team has implemented a fix that has ACTUALLY nerfed the gun.
The damage remained the same, but the overall usability and maneuverability of the gun has decreased.
I believe that this was not an intentional nerf and it was just a sloppy fix, but it is still a REALLY annoying gun nerf nonetheless.
I have made a video in order to try and get the point of what the issue is across, but it will be difficult to really tell the difference unless you use the shotgun in ZM so you can feel it getting stuck after the grenade shots.
[QUOTE=[GM]Kanadian;n6930711]Hey guys, a couple of things to note here since this was brought to my attention:
-As far as I keep being told, nerfs have not happened, despite what everyone keeps saying. I have seen no definitive video evidence between now and before (no evidence at all actually) that proves there has been a difference. If someone provides that evidence to me I can pressure a few places more, but without it I am sure you can understand the difficulty of the following conversation:
"Have ZM weapons been nerfed?"
"No."[/QUOTE]
[USER="22385461"][GM]Kanadian[/USER] I will take you up on your offer. I hope something gets done about this one. -
IGN_Galaxy wrote: »[USER="26494729"]Painanator[/USER]
You are wrong in the battleship
The team must use the electric spear on the president to get to sleep like what happens in the dawn pit with the bomb and then
use the bombs you will see a stronger effect in boss battleship
In battleship AK-47 Buster is best for boss -
Okay, as I've said before I am unsure if the previous guns have been nerfed but I believe Kanadian that as far as he knows, and as far as any of us can prove they have not been.
Now, while the righteous shotgun grenades spam bug was overpowered and needed a fix, the development team has implemented a fix that has ACTUALLY nerfed the gun.
The damage remained the same, but the overall usability and maneuverability of the gun has decreased.
I believe that this was not an intentional nerf and it was just a sloppy fix, but it is still a REALLY annoying gun nerf nonetheless.
I have made a video in order to try and get the point of what the issue is across, but it will be difficult to really tell the difference unless you use the shotgun in ZM so you can feel it getting stuck after the grenade shots.
[USER="22385461"][GM]Kanadian[/USER] I will take you up on your offer. I hope something gets done about this one.
good one, respect
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