Competitive Teams Evaluation Thread #2

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  • You don't ask for respect you earn it. Blackout respects no one, because very few people have earned it, it's expected from a Canadian hillbilly. But by making this thread, you insulted and disrespected people and their teams, so you yourself are like blackout. You might disagree, but anyone with an iq can see that. This thread was made to get recognition of your team, and at the same time disrespect other teams.
    Difference between you and blackout/alazar/jstaff, even if alike, are that they are arrognant, while you and xotek are arrogant and ignorant.
    When they boast and lose, they get ridculed. But their boasting is comical, and they get ridculed. You boast with threads like these, which is another level. You reap what you soe.
    They say things like "shtty team, gonna sht on them" "we da best" "I'm a god"
    You make a thread like this.
    Best if you don't make a thread like this again, because you will just not get anyone's respect and will get trashed more when you fail.

    Off topic: RIP MamaBear
  • CaptArcher wrote: »
    You don't ask for respect you earn it. Blackout respects no one, because very few people have earned it, it's expected from a Canadian hillbilly. But by making this thread, you insulted and disrespected people and their teams, so you yourself are like blackout. You might disagree, but anyone with an iq can see that. This thread was made to get recognition of your team, and at the same time disrespect other teams.
    Difference between you and blackout/alazar/jstaff, even if alike, are that they are arrognant, while you and xotek are arrogant and ignorant.
    When they boast and lose, they get ridculed. But their boasting is comical, and they get ridculed. You boast with threads like these, which is another level. You reap what you soe.
    They say things like "shtty team, gonna sht on them" "we da best" "I'm a god"
    You make a thread like this.
    Best if you don't make a thread like this again, because you will just not get anyone's respect and will get trashed more when you fail.

    Off topic: RIP MamaBear

    I think it will be fair, as next time I will be more specific as to why I see team in the light I do, and I will no longer include my team. I meant no dis-respect in any opinion thread I make, though I do admit this one unlike the first was in much poorer taste, due to the fact that I used opinions to fill information holes, rather than just not posting on teams I didn't know enough about. The next thread will be a more statistical and unbiased version of this thread. I don't think I am arrogant because unlike many CF players, I can admit in the grand scheme of things I am milestones away from being a great player. I admit at times I over-boast about my team (most people do at times), but as Ive said before it was mainly approached with bias so I plan on no longer including my team.

    I wouldn't say x0tek and I are ignorant, I would say we are too critical of everyone else at times (sometimes even more than ourselves which IS bad), because we are in fact extremely critical of ourselves. In every time I have called another team bad, I have never reasoned that by saying someone is bad because I am better (unless jokingly so). I say why they could be better or why they aren't as good as they think. Thats because I am very critical in general including of myself. Just ask anyone who has played with me. When I have a bad game or we suffer a loss, the first person I blame is always myself, even if teamates may have performed worse, I generally don't shift blame. I do apologize though, if by being critical of others as I am to myself it seemed offensive or in any way that I was trying intentionally to disrespect them, and I do understand that this thread was written with poor taste at the time due to my over use of opinion to fill gaps as I mentioned before, but I can only change that for the future.
  • Zzxq wrote: »
    Just ask anyone who has played with me. When I have a bad game or we suffer a loss, the first person I blame is always myself, even if teamates may have performed worse, I generally don't shift blame.


    Damn... you must blame yourself a lot then.
  • Jameseoo wrote: »
    Damn... you must blame yourself a lot then.

    Good one.











    Not really.
  • CaptArcher wrote: »

    Off topic: RIP MamaBear

    MamaBear will rise again!
  • you cant rate a teams teamwork and comms, especially since you are not on the team..


    god...
  • CaptArcher wrote: »
    You don't ask for respect you earn it. Blackout respects no one, because very few people have earned it, it's expected from a Canadian hillbilly.

    i respect alot of people in the game. the way i am towards you if you're not on my team should not be thought of as who i am(ask my teammates). i treat this game as a sport, il say gg after the game, and respect you, but during the game im gunna trash talk just like any other sport and the problem with video games is that the people that are playing, 80% of the time have/are going through a rough time at school being bullied(you can tell)and hop on a video game to build their self-esteem and when someone "disrespects" their video game abilities or their looks, they lose it.
  • i respect alot of people in the game. the way i am towards you if you're not on my team should not be thought of as who i am(ask my teammates). i treat this game as a sport, il say gg after the game, and respect you, but during the game im gunna trash talk just like any other sport and the problem with video games is that the people that are playing, 80% of the time have/are going through a rough time at school being bullied(you can tell)and hop on a video game to build their self-esteem and when someone "disrespects" their video game abilities or their looks, they lose it.

    You can say what you what you want in the heat of a match and I won't care too much. I just thought making a thread specific to x0tek just to call him out because you don't like him was childish and rude to not only him, but to the rest of my team. Its one thing to say your bad to a team in a scrim, I could care less, but to act in the way you did was disrespectful to my team as a whole.
  • Zzxq wrote: »
    You can say what you what you want in the heat of a match and I won't care too much. I just thought making a thread specific to x0tek just to call him out because you don't like him was childish and rude to not only him, but to the rest of my team. Its one thing to say your bad to a team in a scrim, I could care less, but to act in the way you did was disrespectful to my team as a whole.

    its the internet, tf you expect?
  • p1mateusz wrote: »
    its the internet, tf you expect?

    Id hope a community that competes with each other often and has played this game essentially for years together, and for the most part all know each other, could step up and become a more respectable and sportsman-like community. Otherwise every single Esports opportunity for this game will slip continuously as it has in the past, because people are beyond rude to others and host organizations. ESG is lucky it has enough community members to not be completely demolished by lack of community support.
  • Zzxq wrote: »
    You can say what you what you want in the heat of a match and I won't care too much. I just thought making a thread specific to x0tek just to call him out because you don't like him was childish and rude to not only him, but to the rest of my team. Its one thing to say your bad to a team in a scrim, I could care less, but to act in the way you did was disrespectful to my team as a whole.

    It was childish for x0tek to act like hes the best player in crossfire, then continue to lose in group play.
  • Zzxq wrote: »
    Id hope a community that competes with each other often and has played this game essentially for years together, and for the most part all know each other, could step up and become a more respectable and sportsman-like community. Otherwise every single Esports opportunity for this game will slip continuously as it has in the past, because people are beyond rude to others and host organizations. ESG is lucky it has enough community members to not be completely demolished by lack of community support.

    "Undaunted vs losers"
  • h0nesttt wrote: »
    It was childish for x0tek to act like hes the best player in crossfire, then continue to lose in group play.

    laughed so hard


    if kids acted like they did in real life to me they'd end up like the guy who tried to steal my wallet 2 times at the bar on saturday. cant go into details ...
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    and you dont make it out of group play, but we do? yawn
  • Can we add stats for egos? I think that will give us a good look at which teams will fail.
  • ThePurv wrote: »
    Can we add stats for egos? I think that will give us a good look at which teams will fail.

    Please do. We need a list of top 25 players in cf with egos. That'll be the best.
  • ThePurv wrote: »
    Can we add stats for egos? I think that will give us a good look at which teams will fail.

    I vote jstaff and x0tek should play 1v1 for first place. x0tek would probably win though because he would be using spop and head armor.
  • Undaunted is a bunch of Crossfire players. What they need to learn is to shut the **** up and play. Tired of playing with a bunch of Dramatic little girls who can't just turn off chat and play. They shouldn't touch the forums because they can't handle it. They shouldn't look at chat, or the lobby, or anything, because they can't handle it. They need to play the ****ing game, not get in the face of every team that ****talks them.
  • I feel like I have to defend Undainted(lol:P) here..


    Our group had 3 very even teams (even if some people don't want to admit it, it's the truth) any of the matches between Prime, LPK, and Undaunted could have went either way. It just turns out that Undaunted got the short end of the stick twice. I wouldn't say they're a bad team at all, they just had a really rough group. I agree that they shouldn't have hyped their team up as much as they did publicly but maybe they'll learn from that mistake and just play for themselves and not care about what others think about them.


    Undaunted, that was easily the funnest match I've played in cf since god knows how long. I feel like you guys could have pulled off the win if you didn't do the same default on BL side literally every round. Although I was a free pick most of the time, we were able to trap you guys in hotel/B-long almost every time giving us insane map control. I enjoyed playing you guys a lot and I hope to see you in future competitions.


    EDIT: Cheers
  • Audeamus wrote: »
    Undaunted is a bunch of Crossfire players. What they need to learn is to shut the **** up and play. Tired of playing with a bunch of Dramatic little girls who can't just turn off chat and play. They shouldn't touch the forums because they can't handle it. They shouldn't look at chat, or the lobby, or anything, because they can't handle it. They need to play the ****ing game, not get in the face of every team that ****talks them.

    yap yap yap at the end of the day you gotta buckle up your mouse straps

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ysMOV8TYU
  • Our group had 3 very even teams
    evenly horrendous
  • kingdooper wrote: »
    evenly horrendous

    You're only mad because you got cut from your own team. Fight me??
  • You're only mad because you got cut from your own team. Fight me??

    for reason of international peace, i won't fight canadians
  • Zzxq wrote: »
    Id hope a community that competes with each other often and has played this game essentially for years together, and for the most part all know each other, could step up and become a more respectable and sportsman-like community. Otherwise every single Esports opportunity for this game will slip continuously as it has in the past, because people are beyond rude to others and host organizations. ESG is lucky it has enough community members to not be completely demolished by lack of community support.
    Hahahahahaha


    Also I feel like you should still rate undaunted but don't compare other teams to undaunted ya dig me
  • Zzxq wrote: »
    Hey everyone, this is just a thread to give some of my thoughts and opinions on teams in the competitive scene of Crossfire as we prepare for ESG Spring Series to begin.

    Each Team will be rated on a 0-10 Scale for each of the following categories:
    Aiming Ability: Ability to aim well, and hit shots consistently.

    Team Work and Communication: How well you work together, and for the teams who I have heard, how well they communicate is taken as a factor.

    Experience / Performance in Matches: Match history / Placement in previous events

    Total: Out of 30

    The following list consists of the teams I know of that are competing in ESG, and their rating based on the 3 categories above. Keep in mind, this is just my singular perspective and you do not have to agree with it.

    As I said before in my first thread. For those who got a high rating, prove me right. For those who got a low rating, prove me wrong.

    (#1) Ace Gaming

    Being one of the most decorated LAN teams in North America, it is probably no prize that I will be giving Ace Gaming a fairly good rating. After winning CFS 2 Qualifiers over Socks they proved to be one of the best teams in North America. With very good past performance records in NA events, I am sure they will be a contender for the upcoming ESG Spring Series.

    Key Players: Ace.Ayrin and Ace.Malte

    Aiming Ability: 8 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 9 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 9 out of 10

    Total: 26 out of 30

    (#2) !nstinct (Socks)

    After recently coming back into the NA Competitive Scene after a short break, the former WCG USA Champions look to be working hard at rebuilding the strength they had in the fall of 2013. Look for Socks to be a strong competitor in the upcoming ESG Spring Series.

    Key Players: Jaime and Ralf

    Aiming Ability: 8.5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 8 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 9 out of 10

    Total: 25.5 out of 30

    (#3) Fly Society

    Being a consistent top contender in past events, Its no surprise that Fly Society is high up on this list. With some of the better shots in North America, this power house team is coming off a win in ESG Winter Series and is deffinitely a strong competitor.

    Key Players: Andre and LVP

    Aiming Ability: 9 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 8 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 8 out of 10

    Total: 25 out of 30

    (#4) AlphaFive

    Reuniting former international competitors such as Bertman and Monstar, AlphaFive if they continue to rebuild a strong team could pose a threat if they compete in upcoming events.

    Key Players: Monstar and Luwii

    Aiming Ability: 9 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 8 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 7.5 out of 10

    Total: 24.5 out of 30

    (#5 / #6) KTT Prime

    After doing well in Winter Series Prime has shown that they are ready to rise to the top. With the recent pick up of Ty2K from CFS Season 1 NA Champions Carbon, Prime could continue to rise up and perform well again in Spring Series.

    Key Players: Mykl and Mateusz

    Aiming Ability: 7 out of 10

    Team Work and Communication: 7.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 7 out of 10
    Total: 21.5 out of 30

    (#5 / #6) Undaunted

    After a rough time in ESG Spring Series, with Undaunteds new roster, they have begun to perform quite well as a team. Look for a much better performance from Undaunted in Spring Series.

    Key Players: x0tek and Thornz

    Aiming Ability: 7 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 8 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 6.5 out of 10

    Total: 21.5 out of 30

    (#7) TriX

    After doing well in Winter Series, and past events, Trix has worked there way up to be a top 10 team in North America in my eyes.

    Key Players: Fall and Dr.Gay

    Aiming Ability: 7 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 7.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 6.5 out of 10

    Total: 21 out of 30

    (#8) Flick

    Though flick has not risen up as a top team at this point in time, its safe to say that they have all improved greatly, and have shown they are pretty good as a team.

    Key Players: wow and Clan

    Aiming Ability: 7 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 6.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 5 out of 10

    Total: 18.5 out of 30

    (#9) No Problem

    Consisting of some well known e8 players, I think these guys have a pretty good shot as a team. Though they are a newer roster, they seem to work well together as a team.

    Key Players: Martinnn and wG.F1ash

    Aiming Ability: 7.5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 6.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 4 out of 10

    Total: 18 our of 30

    #10 (Trio)

    After coming back from a long time away from the competitive scene, I am ready to see what Trio will do in Spring Series as they return with Logic joining the roster.

    Key Players: Ray and Logic

    Aiming Ability: 7 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 5 out of 10

    Total: 17.5 out of 30

    OTHER TEAMS WHO DID NOT MAKE THE TOP 10

    Assault 5
    Aiming Ability: 5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 4 out of 10
    Total: 14.5 out of 30

    Unison
    Aiming Ability: 4.5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 3.5 out of 10
    Total: 13.5 out of 30

    Lurkin
    Aiming Ability: 5.5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 3.0 out of 10
    Total: 14 out of 30

    ABC
    Aiming Ability: 5.5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 4.5 out of 10
    Total: 15.5 out of 30

    MOPAR
    Aiming Ability: 4.0 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 3.5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 2.5 out of 10
    Total: 10 out of 30

    ABC.Frost
    Aiming Ability: 5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 3 out of 10
    Total: 13 out of 30

    LPK
    Aiming Ability: 5.5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 6 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 4.0 out of 10
    Total: 15.5 out of 30

    LTM
    Aiming Ability: 6 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 4.5 out of 10
    Total: 15.5 out of 30

    SprayOps
    Aiming Ability: 4 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 4 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 3 out of 10
    Total: 11 out of 30

    Obliteration
    Aiming Ability: 2.5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 4 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 2 out of 10
    Total: 8.5 out of 30

    -Wolves
    Aiming Ability: 6 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 2 out of 10
    Total: 13 out of 30

    FragStarsX
    Aiming Ability: 6 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 6 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 4.5 out of 10
    Total: 16.5 out of 30

    4 Gaming
    Aiming Ability: 6 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 5 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 2 out of 10
    Total: 13 out of 30

    Welfare
    Aiming Ability: 4.5 out of 10
    Team Work and Communication: 6 out of 10
    Experience / Performance in Matches: 4.5 out of 10
    Total: 15 out of 30

    the fact that flick is #9 is making me rofl.
  • the fact that flick is #9 makes me rofl so hard.

    but anyways nice thread i guess..
  • the fact that flick is #9 makes me rofl so hard.

    but anyways nice thread i guess..

    #8 actually but hey that's a start :)

    also, i'd like to see how bio will fare in the upcoming week(s) ;)
  • the fact that flick is #9 makes me rofl so hard.

    but anyways nice thread i guess..

    and you blow.