Farming Bots and 3rd party programs which affect CF
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So Saidin, go to US WEST Server Channel 1 and you will find ruili's accounts.
He's obviously using a 3rd party program since now 2 years and he isn't ban?
As with hacks, we're not going to be able to catch every one of them with every single update within the game.
These macro programs and 3rd party programs which fall under this policy will be added over time. If you are frustrated at a certain user who has been farming with 3rd party programs, my suggestion here would be to look at the positives of the system changes and worry less about a specific player. -
Hi [GM]Saidin ,
please replay my Problem.
I have an error with X-Trap These days , when I start crossfire I get a massage from X-trap Which said system32/apphelp.dll .
I got I because I install windows 8.1 pro in my computer .
I have windows 7 before it and it's working good in windows 7 please can you fix this error in windows 8.1 pro because this windows is realy fast and I am tired to install windows .
can you send a massage to x-trap development to fix this error please
Thx . -
GhostKillD wrote: »Hi [GM]Saidin ,
please replay my Problem.
I have an error with X-Trap These days , when I start crossfire I get a massage from X-trap Which said system32/apphelp.dll .
I got I because I install windows 8.1 pro in my computer .
I have windows 7 before it and it's working good in windows 7 please can you fix this error in windows 8.1 pro because this windows is realy fast and I am tired to install windows .
can you send a massage to x-trap development to fix this error please
Thx .
you should send it here: http://support.z8games.com/index.php?/Tickets/Submit
wrong section. You should have sent through support. -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »As with hacks, we're not going to be able to catch every one of them with every single update within the game.
These macro programs and 3rd party programs which fall under this policy will be added over time. If you are frustrated at a certain user who has been farming with 3rd party programs, my suggestion here would be to look at the positives of the system changes and worry less about a specific player.
Most happy date to play is 4 hour after a patch cause than you see no hack but ye we all know it's hard to find all hackers but you done already good job versus and i believe in it will be better soon
GJ Saidin -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »Attention Mercenaries,
Please read the following for a very important update.
Recently you may have seen some updates by X-Trap that also include blockages for Farming bots made from macro programs.
This has now also been extended to our auto banning process of HGW.
Cause and Effect
We continue to work on a daily basis to fight hackers in the game, but we also recognize when 3rd party programs are being used against the general enjoyment of the population.
This includes a recent rash of farming bots. These bots were designed to work specifically with CrossFire to increase exp rates, farming and in general act negatively on the game. It should also be known that distribution and use of the files used to create this bot often results in a Keylogger being installed on your computer.
This falls under the rules of using 3rd party programs to gain unfair advantage which is at the heart of hacking and malicious abuse of the game and it's population.
We would like to make a note here about "farming". Legitimate farming, that is if you want to play the game with your friends and create VIP only rooms designed to boost your exp to the maximum levels is fine. 8-10-16 physical players in a room all self killing and/or farming is something we cannot stop as it's part of the game. This is when macro programs (3rd party programs) are involved and designed specifically for CrossFire with the intent on pushing efficiency to beyond human levels.
Do not Sell Accounts
While we don't have a problem with you, or your friends joining a room and "farming" in a legitimate way. We do take issue with using 3rd party programs designed to increase the efficiency beyond normal capacity.
It should also be noted that the "value" of an account is only in it's value to the player, we provide the tools to show off your account (clan page) to others. And we love that people want to brag about their CrossFire accomplishments. But we also recognize that players may be upset because of this banning because they want to sell their accounts after farming.
For these players we have no Sympathy for. Leveling up an account for the sole purposes of selling the account is something we cannot condone and will be banned/removed for doing so.
That being said, we do understand the sudden nature of this update and would like to offer some solace to accounts that may have been affected by this change.
Resolution and Consequences1) Any account who has been permanently banned by this will have their "ban level" stepped down to 30 days. Consider this your first and last warning to please not hack our game, which now includes the use of farm bots. Your honorable soldier ribbon will still be removed from your account because of your previous hacking history.Consider this an apology for implementing this without prior notice. However, using farm bots and hacks in the future will be treated with the same scrutiny as others.
2) Any account which has been "first time" banned for this will have the ban dropped and their honorable soldier ribbon reinstated.
3) Accounts that have not received a permanent or first ban for this will remain closed. These programs act negatively on CrossFire and you should never be hacking in the first place. You must live with the consequences of the actions you have taken.
This will affect all bans issued on October 7th ONLY. Prior to 5pm EDT.
In the interest of openness. At the time of this message 254 players have received some type of ban for using the particular macro program, approximately half of those bans are what we would consider high level. And even less of these are "first time" bans.
From what we have seen, most players who have used this macro program have hacked in the past. Please note that if you received a permanent ban, which will be removed, this does not mean your account has been "reset". You are still in line to receive another permanent ban if you continue to hack CrossFire, which now includes the use of Macro programs designed for CrossFire.
yeah right u wish u could, i dont think u have the tech to ban those marcos because u r just GM not programers. they know much better in codes than u do -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »Attention Mercenaries,
Please read the following for a very important update.
Recently you may have seen some updates by X-Trap that also include blockages for Farming bots made from macro programs.
This has now also been extended to our auto banning process of HGW.
Cause and Effect
We continue to work on a daily basis to fight hackers in the game, but we also recognize when 3rd party programs are being used against the general enjoyment of the population.
This includes a recent rash of farming bots. These bots were designed to work specifically with CrossFire to increase exp rates, farming and in general act negatively on the game. It should also be known that distribution and use of the files used to create this bot often results in a Keylogger being installed on your computer.
This falls under the rules of using 3rd party programs to gain unfair advantage which is at the heart of hacking and malicious abuse of the game and it's population.
We would like to make a note here about "farming". Legitimate farming, that is if you want to play the game with your friends and create VIP only rooms designed to boost your exp to the maximum levels is fine. 8-10-16 physical players in a room all self killing and/or farming is something we cannot stop as it's part of the game. This is when macro programs (3rd party programs) are involved and designed specifically for CrossFire with the intent on pushing efficiency to beyond human levels.
Do not Sell Accounts
While we don't have a problem with you, or your friends joining a room and "farming" in a legitimate way. We do take issue with using 3rd party programs designed to increase the efficiency beyond normal capacity.
It should also be noted that the "value" of an account is only in it's value to the player, we provide the tools to show off your account (clan page) to others. And we love that people want to brag about their CrossFire accomplishments. But we also recognize that players may be upset because of this banning because they want to sell their accounts after farming.
For these players we have no Sympathy for. Leveling up an account for the sole purposes of selling the account is something we cannot condone and will be banned/removed for doing so.
That being said, we do understand the sudden nature of this update and would like to offer some solace to accounts that may have been affected by this change.
Resolution and Consequences1) Any account who has been permanently banned by this will have their "ban level" stepped down to 30 days. Consider this your first and last warning to please not hack our game, which now includes the use of farm bots. Your honorable soldier ribbon will still be removed from your account because of your previous hacking history.Consider this an apology for implementing this without prior notice. However, using farm bots and hacks in the future will be treated with the same scrutiny as others.
2) Any account which has been "first time" banned for this will have the ban dropped and their honorable soldier ribbon reinstated.
3) Accounts that have not received a permanent or first ban for this will remain closed. These programs act negatively on CrossFire and you should never be hacking in the first place. You must live with the consequences of the actions you have taken.
This will affect all bans issued on October 7th ONLY. Prior to 5pm EDT.
In the interest of openness. At the time of this message 254 players have received some type of ban for using the particular macro program, approximately half of those bans are what we would consider high level. And even less of these are "first time" bans.
From what we have seen, most players who have used this macro program have hacked in the past. Please note that if you received a permanent ban, which will be removed, this does not mean your account has been "reset". You are still in line to receive another permanent ban if you continue to hack CrossFire, which now includes the use of Macro programs designed for CrossFire.
What if ur using mumble(clan chat thing) or itunes or skype and u login will this count as a hak ? -
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Dear Saidin & co,
I realize that the use of CN farmbot was not the good path to go, It was certainly a dark one.
I apologize and will face the consequences on my ban for every single minute. It will certainly
be a painful one as I've been here since 2009 as a honorable player playing 8+ hours a day
consistently. I thank you and your team for enlightening me and giving me a chance to take a
hold of myself. I am glad to see the progress you are making with the various improvements and
the use of your own time to get this game to be the best it can for us.
I have never wanted to harm anybody, I am strongly against hacks and trading of accounts/selling of them. I now today realize the value of my account and what shapes me and
my character in this game and I believe this has made me see the world in a different way.
Additionally to what some have said on this thread, HERE is a message to ALL FARMERS(who do it to brag/look tougher).
No matter how high ranked your account is you will never find yourself satisfied and why is this?
Because you are trying to show others you are better than them, you level up day after day
trying to boost your ego but deep inside you know that you're a FRAUD. By farming you are simply ruining your CF experience. No matter how high ranked you are there will ALWAYS be someone above you. Someone Better. When you decide to farm you are investing your time in trying to make yourself feel better when all it will do is put yourself deeper in the river of shame. The big message here isn't that Ranks are meaningless....no..they are Worth how much
you legitly put effort into them -
Creative_E wrote: »Nade farmers use a 3rd party that isn't allowed, same thing as hacking so yeah...
But tbh they should ban them & remove all the EXP they made thanks to the bot, i wanna see other ranks beside marshals on the top 100.
(Should remove the exp from people that been on more then 24 hours, no one really plays for 24 hours just to get exp beside the bots that does it for them when they sleeping..)
That would be very unlikely as they couldnt tell who botted to marshal and who didnt. -
G500LOGITECH wrote: »Dear Saidin & co,
I realize that the use of CN farmbot was not the good path to go, It was certainly a dark one.
I apologize and will face the consequences on my ban for every single minute. It will certainly
be a painful one as I've been here since 2009 as a honorable player playing 8+ hours a day
consistently. I thank you and your team for enlightening me and giving me a chance to take a
hold of myself. I am glad to see the progress you are making with the various improvements and
the use of your own time to get this game to be the best it can for us.
I have never wanted to harm anybody, I am strongly against hacks and trading of accounts/selling of them. I now today realize the value of my account and what shapes me and
my character in this game and I believe this has made me see the world in a different way.
Additionally to what some have said on this thread, HERE is a message to ALL FARMERS(who do it to brag/look tougher).
No matter how high ranked your account is you will never find yourself satisfied and why is this?
Because you are trying to show others you are better than them, you level up day after day
trying to boost your ego but deep inside you know that you're a FRAUD. By farming you are simply ruining your CF experience. No matter how high ranked you are there will ALWAYS be someone above you. Someone Better. When you decide to farm you are investing your time in trying to make yourself feel better when all it will do is put yourself deeper in the river of shame. The big message here isn't that Ranks are meaningless....no..they are Worth how much
you legitly put effort into them
This is the most intelligent post in this entire thread. I hope your words will each others.
Give this man a cookie. -
blaze1dudguy wrote: »Will you ban us if we aren't hacking and people in game think we hack, like for me, they often hit my leg instead of my head or my body and say that i'm hacking, so will you ban me?
This thread is not about hacking in the traditional sense.
But to ease your worries; the answer is no.That would be very unlikely as they couldnt tell who botted to marshal and who didnt.
Yes, its quite easy.
The numbers are all there.
It'd just be a pain in the. -
oOoOoO..finally i hate farm & farmers that will decrease the rash of high ranks now a days
all players want to be marshal more that 50% of vip players farm to get that rank so where is the enjoy from the game ..good player isn't by rank it only by ability of the player ..
thnx again for that -
So working slow is evidence of a huge conspiracy theory.
Nadefarming on this level with this software has NOT been around forever.
There is no little secret, it just took a while to figure out a policy and proportionate response to the problem.
Don't take my word for it though, I work for THE MAN and am a freemason.
Breaking News : There Has Been "AFK Bots" For Years And Has Been Used In Public In Every Event That Requires In-Game Playing Time.[GM]Saidin wrote: »Let me address some of the points in this post.
First off, this has nothing to do with money. This has to do with 3rd party programs creating macro's and virtual machines to be used with multiple copies of CrossFire in order to gain EXP and Ranks faster than is intended by the developers.
Reaching Marshal in our game, or others is completely different. Since we're only applying this to our game.
The account you're posting on is a low level and the account was made multiple years ago. The fact that you insist on having many alternate accounts is just one of the off-shooting problems created by the ability to use 3rd party programs to farm the game.
We've changed the EXP and GP events because we want to gauge the impact of either. There's no rule that says we have to have every EXP event also be a GP event, or vice versa. Now we can introduce variety and see if either of the events are more received by the public who play the game.
And let me just reiterate that the main issue here is that there were bot programs being used in CrossFire to make this happen. If you want to "farm" on your own then go ahead. Just do it without Virtual Machine Software and without macro bots.
- First I Would Like To Thank You Personally For Giving Time To Reply,
- Secondly I Would Like To Clarify Some Points, My Gaming Account Isn't Low Level, Its Just My Forum User That I Never Used To Reply To Topics, Here Is My Account I Am A CF Player Since 2011 Never Hacked, Never Farmed, Never Will, My Deal Of Argument Is That Hundreds Of Players Have Already Used The 3rd Party Programs To Reach The Highest Level Of The Game, And If Your Administration Decided To Stop That Now Maybe There Will Be Something Done To Those Who Clearly Used It For Years.
- Lastly The "Money" Issue, Its Just What Has Come To Notice Recently That Its Harder To Get GP, That Is Kind Of Indirect Pressure To Make People Deposit, Spin In The Black Market And et voilà Lots Of GP!, I Know People Who Used Those 3rd Party Programs To Farm [Faster] For GP Not EXP, So When You Banned That It Kinda Alerted Me, As For Events, Yes I Know There Is No Rule For EXP Events To Have GP Events With It, But I've Been Playing CF For Years And I Never Saw An EXP Event By Itself, Maybe Its Just Good For Business But GP Is Good For Gamers.
P.S I Never Encourage Farming [With 3rd Party Or Without] Nor Breaking Rules Of Any Game, I Just Play For Fun And Like Collecting Guns, I Love Playing The Game That Provides That. -
' wrote:Americaa;3750984']Breaking News : There Has Been "AFK Bots" For Years And Has Been Used In Public In Every Event That Requires In-Game Playing Time.
If the difference between nadefarming and an anti-afk script is lost on you then I'm afraid I've run out of words.
I said farming with this technique and on this level has not been around "forever" as you claim.
And I confidently stand by that. -
That would be very unlikely as they couldnt tell who botted to marshal and who didnt.
I'm sure they can.
Who in the world plays 24 hours just for exp..
I still think they should do it, like they did when the bug in cws was out, they removed all the exp that players made. -
' wrote:Americaa;3750984']My Deal Of Argument Is That Hundreds Of Players Have Already Used The 3rd Party Programs To Reach The Highest Level Of The Game, And If Your Administration Decided To Stop That Now Maybe There Will Be Something Done To Those Who Clearly Used It For Years.
So by your standing, the "hundreds of players have already used the 3rd party programs" will now have been warned that they farming with 3rd party programs is classified as hacking and will be dealt with as such.
If someone wants to reach the highest level of the game by farming, by all means they can still do it... they can still create those VIP-only farming rooms, they can still go ahead and grenade themselves, or to grab 8 other computers and have those cows be in a locked room for some head shot fun times.
This point of this thread was to A) Make a policy according 3rd party programs aiding in farming and
Apologize and possibly revert some bans that took effect the day before this thread as Z8 did NOT inform the public of the new policy at that time. -
Ya Ok buddy.
Z8, you might as well not do anything about hackers. You always say that you are doing your best... blah blah... blah...and some more BLAH BLAH.. Sry, but no matter what you "claim" to do, there is still hackers. I don't even really buy ZP any more just for that reason! Yesterday night, I played a total of 13 games, 12 of which had hackers in them. TDM FarmBotting Servers running with posted pw on 5%+exp servers (and the UK one). You can literally see them doing it, and the name "farm bot, pw= [00]..etc.. B U L L S H I T ! -
Bullsh*t= z8G500LOGITECH wrote: »Dear Saidin & co,
I realize that the use of CN farmbot was not the good path to go, It was certainly a dark one.
I apologize and will face the consequences on my ban for every single minute. It will certainly
be a painful one as I've been here since 2009 as a honorable player playing 8+ hours a day
consistently. I thank you and your team for enlightening me and giving me a chance to take a
hold of myself. I am glad to see the progress you are making with the various improvements and
the use of your own time to get this game to be the best it can for us.
I have never wanted to harm anybody, I am strongly against hacks and trading of accounts/selling of them. I now today realize the value of my account and what shapes me and
my character in this game and I believe this has made me see the world in a different way.
Additionally to what some have said on this thread, HERE is a message to ALL FARMERS(who do it to brag/look tougher).
No matter how high ranked your account is you will never find yourself satisfied and why is this?
Because you are trying to show others you are better than them, you level up day after day
trying to boost your ego but deep inside you know that you're a FRAUD. By farming you are simply ruining your CF experience. No matter how high ranked you are there will ALWAYS be someone above you. Someone Better. When you decide to farm you are investing your time in trying to make yourself feel better when all it will do is put yourself deeper in the river of shame. The big message here isn't that Ranks are meaningless....no..they are Worth how much
you legitly put effort into them
THIS GUY IS JUST A F=====ng Idiot! F*ck you and your farm botting banned ass! I hope you rot. Idiot. People like you ruin this f***ing game! I have been playing this f***ing game for over 2 years now, not one time I have cheated! How much ZP i have invested just on Crates alone, seriously in the Million range... And When I sign on I don't even get to play 3 mins legit without someone fawking it all up for everyone. Z8 needs a massive overhaul on the players in this game!!! should be ZERO TOLERENCE! JUST BAN AND SAY FAWK THEM, you only don't want to BAN THEM now BECAUSE THEY SPEND $$$$. SO Z8 QUIT BEING GOD DAMN CORPORATE AND DO SOMETHING NOOBS! I am in the IT/PC field, its NOT SO HARD NOOBS! -
THIS GUY IS JUST A F=====ng Idiot! F*ck you and your farm botting banned ass! I hope you rot. Idiot. People like you ruin this f***ing game! I have been playing this f***ing game for over 2 years now, not one time I have cheated! How much ZP i have invested just on Crates alone, seriously in the Million range... And When I sign on I don't even get to play 3 mins legit without someone fawking it all up for everyone. Z8 needs a massive overhaul on the players in this game!!! should be ZERO TOLERENCE! JUST BAN AND SAY FAWK THEM, you only don't want to BAN THEM now BECAUSE THEY SPEND $$$$. SO Z8 QUIT BEING GOD DAMN CORPORATE AND DO SOMETHING NOOBS! I am in the IT/PC field, its NOT SO HARD NOOBS!
aha my head paining .^ -
'OMG wrote:[lol]xD;3751143']aha my head paining .^
I am just being honest, they always say this and that, and never fail to mention how they are only trying their best to stop it, just like with anything, easier said than done. Always said, then when I go see, NEVER DONE. -
THIS GUY IS JUST A F=====ng Idiot! F*ck you and your farm botting banned ass! I hope you rot. Idiot. People like you ruin this f***ing game! I have been playing this f***ing game for over 2 years now, not one time I have cheated! How much ZP i have invested just on Crates alone, seriously in the Million range... And When I sign on I don't even get to play 3 mins legit without someone fawking it all up for everyone. Z8 needs a massive overhaul on the players in this game!!! should be ZERO TOLERENCE! JUST BAN AND SAY FAWK THEM, you only don't want to BAN THEM now BECAUSE THEY SPEND $$$$. SO Z8 QUIT BEING GOD DAMN CORPORATE AND DO SOMETHING NOOBS! I am in the IT/PC field, its NOT SO HARD NOOBS!
So because I got really depressed from all the hackers ingame and decided to study and deal with life while while my account would advance ( yes I know I should of been wiser and have
just did it by myself and not use a macrobot) I Don't deserve a second chance ? I should go kill
myself? But what if it was you someday? you have half of my experience, I have 4 years of it
Who knows? in 2 years you might get tired as hell from all these aimboters in all the games
(i warm up my fast aiming in egypt and i cant do it at all anymore literally, aimboter every single
room). You might want to do something else to change your mind. You might do something you regret as did I. I am not an idiot because I learnt from my mistakes. -
G500LOGITECH wrote: »So because I got really depressed from all the hackers ingame and decided to study and deal with life while while my account would advance ( yes I know I should of been wiser and have
just did it by myself and not use a macrobot) I Don't deserve a second chance ? I should go kill
myself? But what if it was you someday? you have half of my experience, I have 4 years of it
Who knows? in 2 years you might get tired as hell from all these aimboters in all the games
(i warm up my fast aiming in egypt and i cant do it at all anymore literally, aimboter every single
room). You might want to do something else to change your mind. You might do something you regret as did I. I am not an idiot because I learnt from my mistakes.
When it states in the ToS that you cannot hack or "farm", I don't care what you say or do. You don't deserve to play period. I had ample opportunity to cheat and farm if I wanted to. But, I have what people from around these parts call RESPECT! You don't have it the least bit. Just because you speak 'kind words' and are "sorry" etc.. don't mean ****. Whining people just like you, trying to get sympathy out of the Legit players for a "2nd chance" yet you are literally the root cause of all this cheating/farming in the game. You deserve exactly nothing my friend. Not a damn thing! Grow up, you cheated, get over it. Goodbye! -
When it states in the ToS that you cannot hack or "farm", I don't care what you say or do. You don't deserve to play period. I had ample opportunity to cheat and farm if I wanted to. But, I have what people from around these parts call RESPECT! You don't have it the least bit. Just because you speak 'kind words' and are "sorry" etc.. don't mean ****. Whining people just like you, trying to get sympathy out of the Legit players for a "2nd chance" yet you are literally the root cause of all this cheating/farming in the game. You deserve exactly nothing my friend. Not a damn thing! Grow up, you cheated, get over it. Goodbye!
You sir are blinded by rage and speaking with you any longer won't do anything than waste my
time. Ever heard the saying nobody is perfect? 1 day of the 4 years now makes me a horrible person? Insulting people and judging them before you even know them, that's also one of the
things ruining the game, It's rotting the community. I'm guessing ingame you're one of those guys always being like ''K kid'' '' do u even OCG?'' '' lmao wow he thinks hes gud what a pubstar''
Truth hurts. ''Don't pick on everyone cause one day you'll find the guy who doesn't tolerate you'' If you were wise you would just drop it. Good day -
Can you quote where exactly it's stated that Z8 will ban people for farming? It's one thing for the "community" to frown upon it, it's another thing to make specific policy out of it.So what happened to the rule where farming was frowned upon and could result in a ban just for farming?
More like can't stop laughing!!!!'OMG wrote:[lol]xD;3751143']aha my head paining .^
@gleninkc
You should note that Z8 IS in fact going to punish those who use 3rd party programs to farm now. -
Can you quote where exactly it's stated that Z8 will ban people for farming? It's one thing for the "community" to frown upon it, it's another thing to make specific policy out of it.
More like can't stop laughing!!!!
@gleninkc
You should note that Z8 IS in fact going to punish those who use 3rd party programs to farm now.
Sorry, I am bot blinded by rage. (MORE LIKE tired of B.S.) .. anyways, I know that they are.. but, from the last...hmmm... well every times Z8 claimed to fix "farming" or "hacking" problems, /....then BAMMMMMM... ANOTHER post resembling this one comes out.. Then we all are like... sweet.. finally! Then we sign on and play and are sorely disappointed every time. LMAO.
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