Artisans™ Recruitment Thread!
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Well, after hearing Sushi's side in all this the matter is clear.
Don't get to hung up on not being LT anymore Gun.
You can still do your job more or less.
^cant..i got kicked..
No, and I want a refund for the money I had to pay for you to accept me.
Oh wait, you told me not to tell anyone, ooops!
^cant..i got kicked.. -
Prank call... Whatever!! I called you and we had a very nice conversation. With you being mean and saying mean things.
I had a very nice conversation with what sounded like a sexually confused boy.DivineAxerz wrote: »^cant..i got kicked..
Can't say I didn't see it coming after reading Sushi's post.
You should probably change your signature then.Creative_E wrote: »Sushi knows what I have done
I told him, GG.
Damn, that's all the dirt I had on you.
I still want my refund :mad:2much drama omfg. This is why me and deity have arguments and settle it by talking through sauce
bootiful relationship
Forums, can you please tell Nin that we not only use you, but everyone and everything we see in game. -
First of all, I have no idea why you used so many colors. So annoying. Second, I'm now going to analyze everything of what you said and respond accordingly.
1. When did I say I wouldn't talk to you? I've replied to everything you've sent me, and I've replied to your private message. I've been busy this past weekend so I haven't been on as much. I have made no effort to not talk to you. In fact, I HAVE been talking to you. So when you say I refuse to talk to you, that's just an insult and a lie.
2. All I did was demote you? I sent you(in game) a long and thorough message detailing why what you did was wrong and why you got demoted. This should be reason enough. And why should I bother asking you about what you did, when you didn't even ask me if you could do it? And anyway, you told me why you did it, because I apparently said I wanted TS3 sometime in the past, which I don't really remember.
3. I never said this. Yes, I said you acted on your own, however I never said you "randomly deleted all the Raidcall info". I did say you deleted it, but I was not holding that against you. What I was annoyed at was that it was replaced with TS3 info, without even my knowledge about it. You know how I found out? I had to look at the clan page and see everything Nincat and I worked hard on putting up was just completely replaced.
4. What exactly do you think the role of a lieutenant is? To dictate clan procedures? That's the clan LEADER's job. The Leader makes all the final decisions, not the lieutenants. And even if I wasn't online, all you had to do was send me a simple message, asking what I thought and if you should go ahead with it. No, instead you just do it because "ALL" the lieutenants say its ok.
5. So Mist, Nin, Ay, and Gon are ALL of the lieutenants now? That's not even half of them. And I talked to Nin, he said that Deity was the only one to say he thought it was a good idea. Nobody else said it was a good idea, and Nin even joked that the clan should use cans and strings. Nobody told you to go ahead with it, you just decided on your own that it was a good idea, so you did it. Want more proof? Here you go.
6. Oh, you were now? You never said this before. Why is this only coming up now? And why was this never even sent to me? Your TS3 info had been up for at least an hour or two before I had taken it down, and yet nothing was sent to me.
7. How dare you. All of my lieutenants care about this clan just as much as I do. We all work together to make this clan great, we're not here to destroy the clan or ruin it. We're here to better it. You think we don't care? I've got news for you.
8. What EXACTLY do you think the role of a lieutenant is? Well I can certainly tell you that it is not only to recruit members. It is to engage, to enjoy, to enforce, and to promote our clan positively. To engage with the members and make everyone's experience better. To enjoy the clan and everything it has to offer. To enforce the rulings of the leader and make sure everyone in the clan abides by the rules and doesn't cause trouble. And to promote the clan in a good way, trying to eradicate any negativity towards the clan. While, yes, a lieutenant should be recruiting members, that is not the only role of a lieutenant. And you should know this, but you clearly do not.
9. Oh, really? In your real job you go and make decisions without consulting the person in charge? Wow, sounds to me like you're going to get fired really soon.
10. Oh really? You think being demoted is unfair? You haven't even given me a single reason as to why I SHOULD promote you again, other than I'm being "unfair" to you, or that you feel you should have gotten a warning first.
11. I assume you mean "say the same" rather than "same the same"? Well, if that's it, then you're wrong. I have asked Nin-cat of his opinion on the matter, and he believes my actions are unjust(correct me if I'm wrong, nincat). Nin-cat was one of the original members of Panda, and he says the same as me, not you.
Now that I have thoroughly examined your arguments, please, please tell me why you think you should be promoted again. After lying and only causing this clan more pain than happiness, your service is no longer needed in my clan. Now, I would appreciate it if you were to not contact me or any other member/lieutenant of my clan on the matter. Thank you.
After reading everything you have said, it looks like you are only hung up on the fact that I did not consult you before doing these actions.
Was it really that wrong? All I did was PAY MONEY waste TIme and set up a server so that everyone can be happy.
Since the clan wars percentage is so low, I decided to form an elite team so then it would be raised up.
If you ask the members, they would tell you that we train hard everyday.
Why would you send important things through in game message? It is almost impossible to read since each message is only 99 characters. All you said in those messages is that the fact that I didn't consolidate you.
You say that you have sent me replies? Stop lying, just : you made an error. Why don't you man up and see that you have done some wrong? I have already admitted my mistake. There is nothing in my inbox that is from you. Ask any [MOD].
Every-time I try to contact you or talk to you when you are online you would not answer.
If posting a simple message regarding raid-call is truly that difficult I suggest you look in the mirror and start asking yourself some questions.
You say all your Lieutenants care about the clan. Why is it when I ask them solutions for the clans problems they do not answer?
Problems include your clan's win rate, and the people you let in. In fact I had many clan mates that would message me : your Lt's were being incompetent. If they had did there job, the clans members won't just keep messaging me for solutions when I am not the Lt.
This is what you say here : "What EXACTLY do you think the role of a lieutenant is? Well I can certainly tell you that it is not only to recruit members. It is to engage, to enjoy, to enforce, and to promote our clan positively. To engage with the members and make everyone's experience better. To enjoy the clan and everything it has to offer. To enforce the rulings of the leader and make sure everyone in the clan abides by the rules and doesn't cause trouble. And to promote the clan in a good way, trying to eradicate any negativity towards the clan." but if you really believe it...then why do I see this?
What is with all this profanity and inults and inappropriate behavior? According to what you said above, your clan Lt would stop this..but no I asked them what they were gonna do about it. Answer? nothing..
This is the sort of inappropriate behavior I was talking about. It made many members uncomfortable and no Lt made any move to stop it. Numbering says "Good job Lt's " because they said they weren't gonna do anything about this inappropriate behavior.
If you say your Lt's are doing there job just like as staed above, then why did I have a three hour conversation on how your Lt's are just figure heads. Some of them like Extinction don't even do the simple task of leading a clan war.
The question you asked AYxkk? Hes probably scared that he would also be demoted.
I have done nothing wrong except the fact that I neglected to tell you about Team speak 3.
If you ask any clan member, they would tell you that I spent all of yesterday asking them suggestions how I could improve myself and make the clan better.
How Can I make a blind man see? All the evidence is right in your face but you just choose not to see it.
Every time I go on, I aid clan members and we are just like a family. I always ask them how I can improve the clan up.
The only one causing the clan pain is you. Not all the Lt's you have chosen are suitable for the job and you know it. You turn a blind eye because they are your friends or the fact that they simply texted you a few times. -
Can't we all just forget about this and make Nin leader?
^I want to...but you need to remember Sushi is the one who started this. I apologized numerous times but he won't talk to me. Now he is accusing me of "lying" and I have been kicked. -
DivineAxerz wrote: »After reading everything you have said, it looks like you are only hung up on the fact that I did not consult you before doing these actions.
Was it really that wrong? All I did was PAY MONEY(1) waste TIme and set up a server so that everyone can be happy.
Since the clan wars percentage is so low, I decided to form an elite team so then it would be raised up.
If you ask the members, they would tell you that we train hard everyday.
Why would you send important things through in game message? It is almost impossible to read since each message is only 99 characters. All you said in those messages is that the fact that I didn't consolidate you.
You say that you have sent me replies? Stop lying, just : you made an error. Why don't you man up and see that you have done some wrong? I have already admitted my mistake. There is nothing in my inbox that is from you. Ask any [MOD].(2)
Every-time I try to contact you or talk to you when you are online you would not answer.(3)
If posting a simple message regarding raid-call is truly that difficult I suggest you look in the mirror and start asking yourself some questions.(4)
You say all your Lieutenants care about the clan. Why is it when I ask them solutions for the clans problems they do not answer?(5)
Problems include your clan's win rate, and the people you let in. In fact I had many clan mates that would message me : your Lt's were being incompetent.(6) If they had did there job, the clans members won't just keep messaging me for solutions when I am not the Lt.
This is what you say here : "What EXACTLY do you think the role of a lieutenant is? Well I can certainly tell you that it is not only to recruit members. It is to engage, to enjoy, to enforce, and to promote our clan positively. To engage with the members and make everyone's experience better. To enjoy the clan and everything it has to offer. To enforce the rulings of the leader and make sure everyone in the clan abides by the rules and doesn't cause trouble. And to promote the clan in a good way, trying to eradicate any negativity towards the clan." but if you really believe it...then why do I see this?
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This is the sort of inappropriate behavior I was talking about. It made many members uncomfortable and no Lt made any move to stop it.(7)
If you say your Lt's are doing there job just like as staed above, then why did I have a three hour conversation on how your Lt's are just figure heads. Some of them like Extinction don't even do the simple task of leading a clan war.(8)
The question you asked AYxkk? Hes probably scared that he would also be demoted.(9)
I have done nothing wrong except the fact that I neglected to tell you about Team speak 3.
If you ask any clan member, they would tell you that I spent all of yesterday asking them suggestions how I could improve myself and make the clan better.
How Can I make a blind man see? All the evidence is right in your face but you just choose not to see it.
Every time I go on, I aid clan members and we are just like a family. I always ask them how I can improve the clan up.
The only one causing the clan pain is you. Not all the Lt's you have chosen are suitable for the job and you know it. You turn a blind eye because they are your friends or the fact that they simply texted you a few times.
1. Nobody asked you to pay money. That's your own fault. Again, stemming from you acting without consulting me. That right there is your own fault and you should certainly NOT be complaining to me about that.
2. Yes, that is my own fault. Looking back on it, I meant to reply but never got around to it. That's my fault. But still, I did reply to you in game several times. And the messages do work, regardless of being 99 characters.
3. Perhaps while I was afk? I do not remember you whispering me. And if it was that one time I was in that knife match with you, I was very busy at the time, doing other things and trying to whisper many other people. Believe it or not, you are not the most important thing I have to deal with, regardless of what you may think.
4. What the hell? This makes no sense at all. Yes, it takes some time to remember what was previously said and try to put everything back.
5. Maybe because they think you're a joke? Nobody takes you seriously. People find you very annoying and arrogant and boastful. If my lieutenants didn't answer you, it's because either they don't want to reply to you, or because they have other things they need to do.
6. Just stop it. I don't need your lies. Unless you have proof, I highly, highly doubt that anybody messaged you complaining about my lieutenants. They would've messaged me first.
7. From that image, I don't see any lieutenants on at the time. There's no proof nobody stopped it or any proof that there's even a lieutenant on at the time. Also, if you're just sitting there taking screenshots, maybe YOU should have done something to stop it, rather than screenshotting.
8. Who are you to talk about clan warring? Whenever you were asked to clan war, you were always off farming in Delta 9. You didn't even get a Raidcall account. So that means you NEVER clan warred. Or, if you did, you did it by not following clan rules and not using Raidcall. And I have spoken with Extinction and he has a life. Sorry if he can't be on 24/7 like you.
9. I HIGHLY doubt he would lie to me. You, on the other hand, seem to have no trouble with lying.
Now I am done here and I will no longer be replying to your foolish arguments, which all seem to be filled with holes and lies. You are no longer a member of this clan, so I suggest you leave this thread. My clan is much better without you, and I don't need your criticism or opinions anymore. Don't even bother replying to this, as you will not get an answer. Though, if you feel you MUST reply, just inbox me. This way I can delete it for you. -
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