Artisans™ Recruitment Thread!
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I've submit an application, though to warn, I am a returning player from a few month break, so I may be rusty. But hopefully, if there's members I can often pub with, I will pick up my old self quickly.
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DivineAxerz wrote: »:mad: ...... still sobbing
well...i was kinda.. nvm
(facepalm) That was a low blow man, even for a baiter like you...:mad:
Maybe that'll teach you next time you try being helpful by doing something that'll benefit and make the clan happy. -
Maybe that'll teach you next time you try being helpful by doing something that'll benefit and make the clan happy.
Except he was out of line and didn't even ASK the clan LEADER if we should switch to TS3, something that our clan is unfamiliar with. Yes, towards the beginning when we got Raidcall, it was foreign and strange and many users had issues with it and it was just something while we waited for another program. But, after 2 months of having it, members have grown used to it and enjoy it, then just one day out of the blue, I see that gunkiller has completely deleted all the information on it and replaced it with TS3 information, saying "we" have decided to change it, when I was not even informed of it, nor any of my other Lieutenants. Yes, Raidcall does have a few issues, but they can all be easily fixed and other than that, the program is fine. I understand he was only trying to help the clan, but next time, you should ask the LEADER of the clan, not just a few users who appear to be unhappy with Raidcall, since the majority of the clan IS happy with it.
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DivineAxerz wrote: »I understand that I was out of line and I should have asked you first. However you weren't online so I asked ALL the Lts. I asked xmist Nin Gon Ay. I SAVED ALL THE RAIDCALL info. AND I WAS about to send you a complete report THAT I TOOK
DOWN.
I really understand why you are upset bro' I would be too. But what I dont fet is why the dwmotion? I can guarantee you that I care about this clan more than half of the currwnt Lts and I have recruited morw than all of them combined. If you were angry we could have just talkedabout it.
I honestly dont get why I was demoted..I treat this like my real job.
You told me & I said "eh.. I want vent.." then you said to go download it
HEY!
"Most of the LTs don't care"
Watch it boy.
I just like power
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Creative_E wrote: »Always a baiter
Why you use huggys word :mad:
& how is it a low blow ;oCreative_E wrote: »You told me & I said "eh.. I want vent.." then you said to go download it
HEY!
"Most of the LTs don't care"
Watch it boy.
I just like power
+ care :mad:
Double post farming, hue -
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Except he was out of line and didn't even ASK the clan LEADER if we should switch to TS3, something that our clan is unfamiliar with. Yes, towards the beginning when we got Raidcall, it was foreign and strange and many users had issues with it and it was just something while we waited for another program. But, after 2 months of having it, members have grown used to it and enjoy it, then just one day out of the blue, I see that gunkiller has completely deleted all the information on it and replaced it with TS3 information, saying "we" have decided to change it, when I was not even informed of it, nor any of my other Lieutenants. Yes, Raidcall does have a few issues, but they can all be easily fixed and other than that, the program is fine. I understand he was only trying to help the clan, but next time, you should ask the LEADER of the clan, not just a few users who appear to be unhappy with Raidcall, since the majority of the clan IS happy with it.
And I find it funny how he still hasn't changed it.
I wanted this to stay private between you and me, but since you won't talk to me and this is the only way to reach you :
I really understand why you are upset bro. Its true, what I did is completely wrong. There is no doubt in my mind. I would also be mad too. Here is the funny part : all you did was Demote me, you didn't even give me a warning, or ask me about anything..
You say I just randomly delete the raidcall info and acted on my own?
Since you weren't online so I asked ALL the Lts. I asked mist Nin, Gon and Ay.
I EVEN SAVED ALL THE RAIDCALL info. AND I WAS about to send you a complete report THAT I TOOK DOWN.
However, what I find ludicrous is why the demotion? It You could have just talked about it.
I have apologized over ten times and they were all sincere.
I can guarantee you that I care about this clan more than half of the current Lts and I have recruited more than all of them combined (minus Nin-cat and you). If you were angry we could have just talked about it.
I honestly don't get why I was demoted..I treat this like my real job. If this was a real job, I would get a warning. Honest to God, this isn't such a big deal that I would have to be demoted for.
Ask any Leader, they would at least give the perpetrator one warning. I really do think this decision to demote me was unjust.
Once again, I know what I did was wrong but you took a different turn on it. Really this I believe was just a big misunderstanding and yes I really should have told you first before acting out but demoting me without any talk or warning is just over the top.
I truly believe I didn't deserve it.
In fact, if you ask any old clan member they would same the same ~
yours truly DivineAxerz/ xgunkillerx -
DivineAxerz wrote: »I wanted this to stay private between you and me, but since you won't talk to me(1) and this is the only way to reach you :
I really understand why you are upset bro. Its true, what I did is completely wrong. There is no doubt in my mind. I would also be mad too. Here is the funny part : all you did was Demote me, you didn't even give me a warning, or ask me about anything..(2)
You say I just randomly delete the raidcall info(3) and acted on my own?
Since you weren't online so I asked ALL the Lts.(4) I asked mist Nin, Gon and Ay.(5)
I EVEN SAVED ALL THE RAIDCALL info. AND I WAS about to send you a complete report THAT I TOOK DOWN.(6)
However, what I find ludicrous is why the demotion? It You could have just talked about it.
I have apologized over ten times and they were all sincere.
I can guarantee you that I care about this clan more than half of the current Lts(7) and I have recruited more than all of them combined(8) (minus Nin-cat and you). If you were angry we could have just talked about it.
I honestly don't get why I was demoted..I treat this like my real job.(9) If this was a real job, I would get a warning. Honest to God, this isn't such a big deal that I would have to be demoted for.
Ask any Leader, they would at least give the perpetrator one warning. I really do think this decision to demote me was unjust.(10)
Once again, I know what I did was wrong but you took a different turn on it. Really this I believe was just a big misunderstanding and yes I really should have told you first before acting out but demoting me without any talk or warning is just over the top.
I truly believe I didn't deserve it.
In fact, if you ask any old clan member they would same the same(11) ~
First of all, I have no idea why you used so many colors. So annoying. Second, I'm now going to analyze everything of what you said and respond accordingly.
1. When did I say I wouldn't talk to you? I've replied to everything you've sent me, and I've replied to your private message. I've been busy this past weekend so I haven't been on as much. I have made no effort to not talk to you. In fact, I HAVE been talking to you. So when you say I refuse to talk to you, that's just an insult and a lie.
2. All I did was demote you? I sent you(in game) a long and thorough message detailing why what you did was wrong and why you got demoted. This should be reason enough. And why should I bother asking you about what you did, when you didn't even ask me if you could do it? And anyway, you told me why you did it, because I apparently said I wanted TS3 sometime in the past, which I don't really remember.
3. I never said this. Yes, I said you acted on your own, however I never said you "randomly deleted all the Raidcall info". I did say you deleted it, but I was not holding that against you. What I was annoyed at was that it was replaced with TS3 info, without even my knowledge about it. You know how I found out? I had to look at the clan page and see everything Nincat and I worked hard on putting up was just completely replaced.
4. What exactly do you think the role of a lieutenant is? To dictate clan procedures? That's the clan LEADER's job. The Leader makes all the final decisions, not the lieutenants. And even if I wasn't online, all you had to do was send me a simple message, asking what I thought and if you should go ahead with it. No, instead you just do it because "ALL" the lieutenants say its ok.
5. So Mist, Nin, Ay, and Gon are ALL of the lieutenants now? That's not even half of them. And I talked to Nin, he said that Deity was the only one to say he thought it was a good idea. Nobody else said it was a good idea, and Nin even joked that the clan should use cans and strings. Nobody told you to go ahead with it, you just decided on your own that it was a good idea, so you did it. Want more proof? Here you go.
6. Oh, you were now? You never said this before. Why is this only coming up now? And why was this never even sent to me? Your TS3 info had been up for atleast an hour or two before I had taken it down, and yet nothing was sent to me.
7. How dare you. All of my lieutenants care about this clan just as much as I do. We all work together to make this clan great, we're not here to destroy the clan or ruin it. We're here to better it. You think we don't care? I've got news for you.
8. What EXACTLY do you think the role of a lieutenant is? Well I can certainly tell you that it is not only to recruit members. It is to engage, to enjoy, to enforce, and to promote our clan positively. To engage with the members and make everyone's experience better. To enjoy the clan and everything it has to offer. To enforce the rulings of the leader and make sure everyone in the clan abides by the rules and doesn't cause trouble. And to promote the clan in a good way, trying to eradicate any negativity towards the clan. While, yes, a lieutenant should be recruiting members, that is not the only role of a lieutenant. And you should know this, but you clearly do not.
9. Oh, really? In your real job you go and make decisions without consulting the person in charge? Wow, sounds to me like you're going to get fired really soon.
10. Oh really? You think being demoted is unfair? You haven't even given me a single reason as to why I SHOULD promote you again, other than I'm being "unfair" to you, or that you feel you should have gotten a warning first.
11. I assume you mean "say the same" rather than "same the same"? Well, if that's it, then you're wrong. I have asked Nin-cat of his opinion on the matter, and he believes my actions are unjust(correct me if I'm wrong, nincat). Nin-cat was one of the original members of Panda, and he says the same as me, not you.
Now that I have thoroughly examined your arguments, please, please tell me why you think you should be promoted again. After lying and only causing this clan more pain than happiness, your service is no longer needed in my clan. Now, I would appreciate it if you were to not contact me or any other member/lieutenant of my clan on the matter. Thank you. -
Well, after hearing Sushi's side in all this the matter is clear.
Don't get to hung up on not being LT anymore Gun.
You can still do your job more or less.Creative_E wrote: »I like I like!
Come back kk
No, and I want a refund for the money I had to pay for you to accept me.
Oh wait, you told me not to tell anyone, ooops!
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