Suggestion of kick voting issue
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i dont see the reason to ban someone or try hard to ban him/her because you ban him or her and they just make a new account or use a alt so its not a big deal if they got banned. but if they get banned and that person live in europe or other person that got ip he cant make new ones.Do not over estimate guys. Especially the ones on the internet. I'm a dude and I know that the only thing that motivates us is that first thing you described. True story.
Back on topic, the keep score after getting kicked thing has been suggested before.
A negative point described before is that it would encourage hackers. I said encourage, we will ban them since that is the primary objective, but the motivation of getting stuff may be enticing to get hackers back in, meaning more hackers. -
so they cant keep tring to kick someone. like a person with skill and a noob.BeFasterKid wrote: »Am i the only one wondering why players are able to vote two times? Voting two times in a game is in my opinion: Too much.
Who could explain me why they have implented the 2 times voting system?
the noob gonna keep trying to kick him because he would think he 'hack' so if they could do like 5-10 votes people would just start to do f11 so that vote wont keep coming thats what i think. -
BeFasterKid wrote: »Am i the only one wondering why players are able to vote two times? Voting two times in a game is in my opinion: Too much.
Who could explain me why they have implented the 2 times voting system?
theres 2 tries in snd/elimination etc. becase those games lasts longer than TDM for example -
so they cant keep tring to kick someone. like a person with skill and a noob.
the noob gonna keep trying to kick him because he would think he 'hack' so if they could do like 5-10 votes people would just start to do f11 so that vote wont keep coming thats what i think.
I meant to ask what's the reason behind the fact that each player can kick two times instead of a single one. If a h4cker occures, then a vote would be enough. If a second h4cker occures then the other player can use his vote. But of course it's not always the first vote wich will make a h4cker leave, takes up to 2-3 times as well
I understand now i guees ;P -
BeFasterKid wrote: »Am i the only one wondering why players are able to vote two times? Voting two times in a game is in my opinion: Too much.
Who could explain me why they have implented the 2 times voting system?
It's so if there is only one good person on the hacker/blocker/etc's team, he can kick, and if another hacker comes he can kick again.
Didn't see you explained it yourself. -
Back on topic, the keep score after getting kicked thing has been suggested before.
A negative point described before is that it would encourage hackers. I said encourage, we will ban them since that is the primary objective, but the motivation of getting stuff may be enticing to get hackers back in, meaning more hackers.Hackers wouldn't get any more encouraged than they already are. Hackers already think they can get away with hacking or are only out to ruin other people's fun. In both cases they aren't discouraged by being kicked or losing their score. They simply join another room and do the same thing all over again. It's people that actually work hard and play fair that are discouraged by getting kicked and losing their score, for they know that simply joining a new room and start over will not make up for their loss
Imagine it was an exam. Now the teachers know that some people have been cheating on their exam. Would these cheaters be discouraged if the teachers threw out the exam results and forced everyone to retake the exam, knowing they could get the answers to the new exam just as easily? Or would the person that had been studying day and night to pass that exam be discouraged, knowing that all that studying was for nothing and they have to retake that exam the same as those that cheated? Wouldn't this encourage more people to cheat of their exam, knowing that it wouldn't matter if they studied day and night or cheated on their exam, they would still be in the same boat as the rest of them? -
i dont play anymore hm,mm because of vote menu,anyway,if i were a GM,or to have power to change something to this vote menu,i would reduce the number of which may give a player/day,i put limited votes,i mean a player can kick about 5-10 times/day ,this will reduce the number of getting kicked,or i change the number of votes you can give / rank
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5-10 votes a day? what about those who play fair and just play all day on crossfire then they see more then 5 hackers not allways but mostly.i dont play anymore hm,mm because of vote menu,anyway,if i were a GM,or to have power to change something to this vote menu,i would reduce the number of which may give a player/day,i put limited votes,i mean a player can kick about 5-10 times/day ,this will reduce the number of getting kicked,or i change the number of votes you can give / rank -
5-10 votes a day? what about those who play fair and just play all day on crossfire then they see more then 5 hackers not allways but mostly.
more than 5 h4ckers a day was in the early CF. These days i barely see any h4ckers around, only alot noobish kickvotes with no reason, but that fact is already known by everyone.. -
well thats it abit later another hack wave like that would start and then would could people do if there like in each room one or 2 hackers?BeFasterKid wrote: »more than 5 h4ckers a day was in the early CF. These days i barely see any h4ckers around, only alot noobish kickvotes with no reason, but that fact is already known by everyone.. -
BeFasterKid wrote: »more than 5 h4ckers a day was in the early CF. These days i barely see any h4ckers around, only alot noobish kickvotes with no reason, but that fact is already known by everyone..I still catch about 5 hackers a day. Sometimes whole clans. Not much has changed, except some managed to learn to hide it better. Plus the hacks they use have also evolved.
For example, aimbot is no longer just on/off. It has a quick key nowadays that allows you to switch it on and off during the game. So you won't be automatically doing 360 spins with every shot, and getting headshots every time. In stead you only do it when you feel you need it and press that quick key. -
its sad they dont dare to play fair. i mean like if hes/shes a noob and die alot well try to get better. or if they die they rejoin just because they dont wanna wait like ok....I still catch about 5 hackers a day. Sometimes whole clans. Not much has changed, except some managed to learn to hide it better. Plus the hacks they use have also evolved.
For example, aimbot is no longer just on/off. It has a quick key nowadays that allows you to switch it on and off during the game. So you won't be automatically doing 360 spins with every shot, and getting headshots every time. In stead you only do it when you feel you need it and press that quick key.
well i dont see so many hackers anymore but still see some. -
Hackers wouldn't get any more encouraged than they already are. Hackers already think they can get away with hacking or are only out to ruin other people fun. In both cases they aren't discouraged by being kicked or losing their score. They simply join another room and do the same thing all over again. It's people that actually work hard and play fair that are discouraged by getting kicked and losing their score, for they know that simply joining a new room and start over will not make up for their loss
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Yes that is a good point. It would only encourage the legit players, and not affect the hackers any more than they are already. Are there any bad points of keeping the score after getting kicked? -
I still catch about 5 hackers a day. Sometimes whole clans. Not much has changed, except some managed to learn to hide it better. Plus the hacks they use have also evolved.
For example, aimbot is no longer just on/off. It has a quick key nowadays that allows you to switch it on and off during the game. So you won't be automatically doing 360 spins with every shot, and getting headshots every time. In stead you only do it when you feel you need it and press that quick key.
5 h4ckers spread over the whole day - it would mean 1 kickvote each player should be enough for one game, because 5 h4ckers isn't much. (also depends how long you count as 'a day'.) Who says they are h4cking if they simply succeed to hide it, what if you are wrong and they aren't h4cking??
It doesn't matter if the whole clan h4cks, the point is that you can't do anything against it; it's you vs 'the whole clan'.
How do you know how aimb0t works these days? .. -
i totally agree with Nyybba1 ,his suggestions are verry simple and perfect in same time,what can be easier and with good results?nothing,he give the best options ,i mean,vote kick menu off/onn at a room,is perfect idea,if i had the power to change something about this,i put Nyybba1 suggestions in game,and i think most of us will do that,please Z8 do something,because we really need a change about this,thanks
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BeFasterKid wrote: »5 h4ckers spread over the whole day - it would mean 1 kickvote each player should be enough for one game, because 5 h4ckers isn't much. (also depends how long you count as 'a day'.) Who says they are h4cking if they simply succeed to hide it, what if you are wrong and they aren't h4cking??
It doesn't matter if the whole clan h4cks, the point is that you can't do anything against it; it's you vs 'the whole clan'.
How do you know how aimb0t works these days? ..I don't play the whole day. I play about 2 hours a day tops, and still catch 5 hackers during those 2 hours. Still say that isn't much?
And they may be able to fool most people, but I won't be fooled that easily. I do my homework. I study the behavior of hackers. And even those that try to hide it during the game, will eventually betray themselves in the replay.
You see, when someone's play style looks suspicious to me, I don't start calling them a hacker and call for a kick. Instead I study their suspicious behavior and try to trick them into proving my suspicions. And if I can't find the proof during the match, I go look for it in the replay.
And this is also how I know how Aimbot works these days. Aimbot still has that spinning headshot glitch. But when a player alternates spinning headshots with regular shots, I know this indicates that they can switch their aimbot on and off during play. Which points to a "hot key" system.
By this method I don't have to kick innocent people, and I dare say, will catch 9 out of 10 hackers I come across. -
yeah i also though there was something like a hotkey.I don't play the whole day. I play about 2 hours a day tops, and still catch 5 hackers during those 2 hours. Still say that isn't much?
And they may be able to fool most people, but I won't be fooled that easily. I do my homework. I study the behavior of hackers. And even those that try to hide it during the game, will eventually betray themselves in the replay.
You see, when someone's play style looks suspicious to me, I don't start calling them a hacker and call for a kick. Instead I study their suspicious behavior and try to trick them into proving my suspicions. And if I can't find the proof during the match, I go look for it in the replay.
And this is also how I know how Aimbot works these days. Aimbot still has that spinning headshot glitch. But when a player alternates spinning headshots with regular shots, I know this indicates that they can switch their aimbot on and off during play. Which points to a "hot key" system.
By this method I don't have to kick innocent people, and I dare say, will catch 9 out of 10 hackers I come across.
because sometimes you see someone play and its like normal and then 1 or 2 rounds he just rush and go kill them all with hs only like ok..... thats normal?
but yeah you sent those replays to z8 to ban those hackers?
i even wonder if it got any use to ban someone that hack. -
Because of this very reason I kick members of , TûrkEmpèriaL and acred C* before I start a match. These clans make a habit out of taking over rooms and kicking people out. Especially players that aren't Turkish.
I do Agree with you, I do get kicked by the clan TûrkEmpèriàL everytime they take over a room but you know, we just gotta get used to the kicking system, I am pretty sure z8 cant do anything about it at the moment. -
BeFasterKid wrote: »Accusing somebody on aimb0t is almost impossible. you've to be God to seperate extreem luck or skill with aimb0t. Even if you've watched hundreds of aiming vids, nothing can prove it.Are you even paying attention, kid? I just told you that Aimbot has a spinning glitch. This glitch makes Aimbot 1 of the easiest hacks to prove. As soon as a character start spinning and getting headshots at the same time, you've got proof of Aimbotting.
The hardest hacks to prove are the weapon state enhancers like no-recoil, and even proving them is possible for a trained eye. -
BeFasterKid wrote: »Accusing somebody on aimb0t is almost impossible. you've to be God to seperate extreem luck or skill with aimb0t. Even if you've watched hundreds of aiming vids, nothing can prove it.Are you even paying attention, kid? I just told you that Aimbot has a spinning glitch. This glitch makes Aimbot 1 of the easiest hacks to prove. As soon as a character start spinning and getting headshots at the same time, you've got proof of Aimbotting.
The hardest hacks to prove are the weapon state enhancers like no-recoil, and even proving them is possible for a trained eye.
Like freckles said, aimbots are easy to spot.
You can tell the second they turn it on by the quick twitchy spin.
When they turn a aimbot on, it first locks on to the nearest target (even ones through walls), this will cause the player to do a quick spin to the exact direction and angle of the target, then the spin will revert to the direction that the player was facing when they turned it on. The spin will happen every time the aimbot locks on to a new target and takes less then a second.
Most hacks are easy to spot once you know what to look for: -
yes and they should let only the host of the room able to kik in FFA, MM, XHM, HM, or remove it, because in these game everybody is playing for their own record and a pis'd off player who got killed multiple time by the same will just kik them, and if the player got the ACE everybody will agree and that's not fair isn't it? the GMs MOST SEE THIS, honestly i was shocked when they added kik system to FFA
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no then hackers just set it 'no kick votes' and boom they can play and hack all day and dont get kicked. so that means there will be more hackers after a while.Suggestion #2, definetly best. (Access to disable kick vote from room settings). I hope some agrees with me. :l -
no then hackers just set it 'no kick votes' and boom they can play and hack all day and dont get kicked. so that means there will be more hackers after a while.
That's bad kick in ass yeah... But theres no way to change all 1 million players kick vote systems misuse -
yes but if they did that 'no kick vote' in all modes. then hackers can do anything they want and then each non hacker gonna quit and then crossfire would just shut down.That's bad kick in ass yeah... But theres no way to change all 1 million players kick vote systems misuse
why? well easy hackers get bored of the game pretty fast well most do. well yeah theres no fun in playing that you allways win and dont got to try because you shoot and boom headshot each time. -
yes but if they did that 'no kick vote' in all modes. then hackers can do anything they want and then each non hacker gonna quit and then crossfire would just shut down.
why? well easy hackers get bored of the game pretty fast well most do. well yeah theres no fun in playing that you allways win and dont got to try because you shoot and boom headshot each time.
Or why don't Cross Fire get a new hack detectors like which Operation7 EU has, i have played that game 3 years and havent spotted any hackers. -
lol each game got hackers even 'operation7 EU' you just didnt see that alot look at crossfire i dont see alot of hackers anymore. also maybe they didnt start to try hard to get a hack on OP. but if they got a new hack detectors well it would be the same just a new detector.Or why don't Cross Fire get a new hack detectors like which Operation7 EU has, i have played that game 3 years and havent spotted any hackers.
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