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  • Not sure how you could do it perfectly since people bunny hop better then others.
    There are also more then one way to bunny hop.

    Don't forget the delay times on starting the forward bunny hop and the delay time when you fail it and must redo it quick.

    The times varies and is not perfect so no one has a 100% accurate rate.
    uh-huh...

    You understand that there is no scale of how good you bunnyhop right? The farther off the ground you are when you hit jump does not equal a faster speed. You either make the no-delay hop or you don't, there is no in between, and there is no inconsistency in B-Hop speed.

    Delay time is irrelevant in starting it, because your positioning and their positioning at the beginning are irrelevant. What IS relevant is whether or not the distance in between you and the runner changes while the test is going on. Which it doesn't.
  • Not everyone can bunny hop perfectly with perfect timing and flawless.
  • Not everyone can bunny hop perfectly with perfect timing and flawless.

    Irrelevant then, because we were comparing the speeds to what you consider to be a perfect b-hop.
  • suiles wrote: »
    i dont think its fair more and more people bunny hop in s&d and other modes and i dont think its fair because you cant hear them in the water cant hear the foot steps and some people can do it so fast that they go faster then they would run and you can use it as a fall down protect thing as you bunny hop and do it right you dont lose hp so i geuss it should be better they take out the bunny hop or just do it for gm

    actually bunny hopping is famous in a lot of games. counter-strike-source, even minecraft.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Irrelevant then, because we were comparing the speeds to what you consider to be a perfect b-hop.

    If the speed of a perfect bunny hop never has been determined, how can we figure out a perfect bunny hop? And I'm not talking about flaws and fails.
  • No b-hopping = death of Ghost Mode. BL would get screwed with ease if they didn't have b-hopping.
  • If the speed of a perfect bunny hop never has been determined, how can we figure out a perfect bunny hop? And I'm not talking about flaws and fails.

    And I ALREADY TOLD YOU, there is no varying speed in a bunny hop.

    NONE

    ZILCH

    ZERO

    How fast you go does not change depending on when you hit the space button. It's a yes or no deal to a single question.

    Did he jump before he hit the ground?

    Yes = NO landing delay and noise.
    No = Landing delay and noise.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    And I ALREADY TOLD YOU, there is no varying speed in a bunny hop.

    NONE

    ZILCH

    ZERO

    How fast you go does not change depending on when you hit the space button. It's a yes or no deal to a single question.

    Did he jump before he hit the ground?

    Yes = NO landing delay and noise.
    No = Landing delay and noise.

    This^^.
    But isn't there also a 'slow' bhop, which isn't the full-speed one?
  • This^^.
    But isn't there also a 'slow' bhop, which isn't the full-speed one?

    This used to happen in pre-change GM. In current GM I do not know, but I believe so.

    However, this can only be considered a "bunny hop" in GM. This is because, in reality, you FAIL the bunny hop. However, in GM, when crouching and moving backwards for a very short time you remain invisible. This means that even though you fail the bunny hop, you don't trigger the visibility from running, and though you lose the speed, you retain invisibility.
  • No. Bunnyhop is a thing to master, and just because the masters pi''ss you off doesn't means that it shall be removed. Get over it.
  • ' wrote:
    dvda[;2898976']It actually is also to shoot. You know when someone HSes you while jumping through the air and you probably scream "HACKER!!!" at him???

    That guy was just crouching in the air. You can shoot accurately while in the air if you're crouched.
    pinetreee wrote: »
    If you can accurately shoot someone in mid air crouching then teach me. :|
    It's usually crossfire lag that makes you believe they shot you in mid air when we really, on their screen, they're on the ground and on your screen it appears they're still in the air.

    It was a glitch, instead of removing it, they made it easier to do now it's an intentional part of gameplay.

    I'm a little late responding...sry :/

    It's true. You can shoot accurately(at least your first shot) while crouched in the air. And I don't mean I've seen people do it. I mean I do it. All the time. Try playing maps with good high places to jump off of. Like Powerplant or Port or anything with tall structures to jump off of.

    Drop down.

    Hold crouch.

    Tap fire HSes.

    Laugh.

    I learned this when the Orbital Station map came out. But the physics still apply in other maps. You just have less time to aim because you're not gently sailing through the air. I do it all the time. After a little practice you'll get good at doing it even during smaller jumps. IE: While bhopping someplace and an enemy surprises you. Fire a burst while in the air crouched. If you're aimed accurately, the shots will land. Works with pistols, snipers, rifles. smgs... Try it out.
  • abel95 wrote: »
    I think it's fair! Knifes + bhop vs guns....

    yes! i think, Knifes + teleport maybe more fair :D
  • VATAV wrote: »
    Bunny hopping is a glitch in how the games engine works.
    To fix it would require remaking the engine. Remaking the engine might as well be making a new game from scratch.

    It is allowed because it adds a few new elements to strategy with out breaking the game and it also helps balance ghost mode.

    If they remove B hopping then the Ghost in GM stand no chance against a good team of GR players that work together, even if they remove breath as well. All Gr would have to do is camp the entrances to the sites and shoot the ghost that appear.

    yes. B-hop is a glitch and it must be removed from game.
  • Imagine playing GM w/o bhop... Ghosts be easy meat for Grs
  • Denxi wrote: »
    A/D switch method.

    not many people know about that so shhh
  • Without bhopping BL might as well not be invisible at all. It would be SD, only BL has only melees and runs stupidly to their deaths. It's a glitch, but a much needed glitch. It balances the whole mode.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    A/D switch method.
    JudgeSimmm wrote: »
    not many people know about that so shhh

    ...I'm listening...
  • ' wrote:
    dvda[;2904471']I'm a little late responding...sry :/

    It's true. You can shoot accurately(at least your first shot) while crouched in the air. And I don't mean I've seen people do it. I mean I do it. All the time. Try playing maps with good high places to jump off of. Like Powerplant or Port or anything with tall structures to jump off of.

    Drop down.

    Hold crouch.

    Tap fire HSes.

    Laugh.

    I learned this when the Orbital Station map came out. But the physics still apply in other maps. You just have less time to aim because you're not gently sailing through the air. I do it all the time. After a little practice you'll get good at doing it even during smaller jumps. IE: While bhopping someplace and an enemy surprises you. Fire a burst while in the air crouched. If you're aimed accurately, the shots will land. Works with pistols, snipers, rifles. smgs... Try it out.

    This is false. The only way to be 100% accurate while in the air is to not JUMP, but just WALK off an edge. Your shots will be MORE accurate when you jump and hold crouch, but they will NEVER be 100% accurate unless you do a fallshot.

    Orbital station is a different case entirely, in that map you actually can just jump and crouch and get 100% accurate shots. I have no idea why this is, I'm assuming they ****ed with the coding to make the low grav actually viable.
    brodiki1 wrote: »
    yes. B-hop is a glitch and it must be removed from game.

    BUNNY HOPPING IS NOT A GLITCH. IT WAS A GLITCH, BUT WAS MADE AN ACTUAL PART OF THE GAME AGES AGO BY THE DEVELOPERS.

    JudgeSimmm wrote: »
    not many people know about that so shhh

    K so, whenever I can do it, I can only get actual acceleration on my first switch, is this normal or am I ****ing up?
  • Denxi wrote: »
    This is false. The only way to be 100% accurate while in the air is to not JUMP, but just WALK off an edge. Your shots will be MORE accurate when you jump and hold crouch, but they will NEVER be 100% accurate unless you do a fallshot.

    Orbital station is a different case entirely, in that map you actually can just jump and crouch and get 100% accurate shots. I have no idea why this is, I'm assuming they ****ed with the coding to make the low grav actually viable.

    hmm... Good to know. I guess I figured "in the air" was "in the air", jump or no jump. I do half decent getting frags while in a jump so I figured it was the same. Gonna go check it out some more.

    *edit: Also, does crouching make a difference when fallshotting?
  • ' wrote:
    dvda[;2904512']hmm... Good to know. I guess I figured "in the air" was "in the air", jump or no jump. I do half decent getting frags while in a jump so I figured it was the same. Gonna go check it out some more.

    *edit: Also, does crouching make a difference when fallshotting?

    Yes and no.

    When you fallshot with a rifle, you'll have the accuracy of whatever you'd normally be doing. If you're crouching you'll have the crouching accuracy, and standing the standing.

    With a SNIPER however, you HAVE to crouch and release the movement keys in order to get a 100% accurate shot.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Yes and no.

    When you fallshot with a rifle, you'll have the accuracy of whatever you'd normally be doing. If you're crouching you'll have the crouching accuracy, and standing the standing.

    With a SNIPER however, you HAVE to crouch and release the movement keys in order to get a 100% accurate shot.
    It's possible to have a 100% accurate shot while jumping. If you crouch + scope the DE-Scope, your first shot will be 100% railgun accurate, no matter if you drop from an edge, jump from it or just bunnyhop. Though this doesn't quite helps in regular games since it's only one shot and you can't spam it while hopping anyway.
  • EmoTiiVe wrote: »
    It's possible to have a 100% accurate shot while jumping. If you crouch + scope the DE-Scope, your first shot will be 100% railgun accurate, no matter if you drop from an edge, jump from it or just bunnyhop. Though this doesn't quite helps in regular games since it's only one shot and you can't spam it while hopping anyway.

    No.

    Mav said this to me a while ago, so I went ahead and tested it.

    It is INCREDIBLY accurate, but not 100% accurate. I could see obviously deviation from walls >20m away.
  • EmoTiiVe wrote: »
    It's possible to have a 100% accurate shot while jumping. If you crouch + scope the DE-Scope, your first shot will be 100% railgun accurate, no matter if you drop from an edge, jump from it or just bunnyhop. Though this doesn't quite helps in regular games since it's only one shot and you can't spam it while hopping anyway.

    And the chances of someone being in the right spot when you crouch with a Deagle Scope is?
  • And the chances of someone being in the right spot when you crouch with a Deagle Scope is?

    Hmm 16% maybe?

    Snap just got mutated..
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Yes and no.

    When you fallshot with a rifle, you'll have the accuracy of whatever you'd normally be doing. If you're crouching you'll have the crouching accuracy, and standing the standing.

    With a SNIPER however, you HAVE to crouch and release the movement keys in order to get a 100% accurate shot.

    kk good to know.

    [size=-3]pssst... what's the A/D switch technique?[/size]
  • I'm sure that who defends the bunny hop here do that during the game. and in my opinion its not fair. I hate it. crouching and jumping ? seriously ? and jumping higher than as usual ? going up somewhere with weird key tricks ? I can do these two but I dont do. its also easy to do with regular keyboard on a desktop computer than a laptop keyboard. I play this game since it came up. empty servers, 100% pure games. no hack etc. call me noob but it was like real battle.
  • samghost wrote: »
    I'm sure that who defends the bunny hop here do that during the game. and in my opinion its not fair. I hate it. crouching and jumping ? seriously ? and jumping higher than as usual ? going up somewhere with weird key tricks ? I can do these two but I dont do. its also easy to do with regular keyboard on a desktop computer than a laptop keyboard. I play this game since it came up. empty servers, 100% pure games. no hack etc. call me noob but it was like real battle.

    no, bhop and double jumping//lag jumping have been around since the game first came out...and if you can do them, why wouldnt you?
  • suiles wrote: »
    well yeah but in S&D isn't that fair because they move arond the map and you cant hear them coming but they hear you coming

    SHIFT KEY = WALK.


    ..sheesh.