bunny hop

i dont think its fair more and more people bunny hop in s&d and other modes and i dont think its fair because you cant hear them in the water cant hear the foot steps and some people can do it so fast that they go faster then they would run and you can use it as a fall down protect thing as you bunny hop and do it right you dont lose hp so i geuss it should be better they take out the bunny hop or just do it for gm
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  • It is apparently a bug but i have no idea because i wasn;t around the time it was officially presented into GM :P
    -1 Bunny hopping is pretty awesome in Gm and i hope it stays there for eternity
  • TheDotKom wrote: »
    It is apparently a bug but i have no idea because i wasn;t around the time it was officially presented into GM :P
    -1 Bunny hopping is pretty awesome in Gm and i hope it stays there for eternity
    well yeah but in S&D isn't that fair because they move arond the map and you cant hear them coming but they hear you coming but in gm it kinda hard to beat it as the ghost use a axe,katana,shovel,.... and the noice down stuff and they bunny hop then as they dont fail at it as they really good at it they are really fast and you dont hear the steps or breath because they got the noice down things but yeah im not a gm pro so
  • TheDotKom wrote: »
    It is apparently a bug but i have no idea because i wasn;t around the time it was officially presented into GM :P
    -1 Bunny hopping is pretty awesome in Gm and i hope it stays there for eternity

    If they thought of it begin an advantage, it would of had been removed already. They can do it now, but it's something the game itself has acquired. So no, bhop is not going anywhere.
  • It's completely fair.. but it's simply looked down upon. At least, that's what I've been hearing from most MMOFPS games that happen to have B-Hopping, whether it is "crouch-hopping" or not.
  • suiles wrote: »
    i dont think its fair more and more people bunny hop in s&d and other modes and i dont think its fair because you cant hear them in the water cant hear the foot steps and some people can do it so fast that they go faster then they would run and you can use it as a fall down protect thing as you bunny hop and do it right you dont lose hp so i geuss it should be better they take out the bunny hop or just do it for gm

    "I'm not good at the game so make other people not have areas to be more skilled in"

    You're an idiot.
  • B-hopping is stay u wanna beat them camp like a noob then ^^
  • well as everone would be b-hopping in S&D then you wouldn't hear anything besides the shots or nades but it kinda take away the fun like on eagle eyes at A site and then 3sec later they are at long A and you cant hear the foot steps as he would be walking it would take some time but with the b-hop your everwhere in no time and you cant hear them it dont matter on water or not
  • Or maybe you could learn how to do it too and get better at the game?

    nah...
  • Do you wanna take out crouch walking and shift walking as well?
    I don't think you can exactly control your recoil very well in mid hop compared to someone shift or crouch walking.
    And it's so easy to learn...
  • I think it's fair! Knifes + bhop vs guns....
  • pinetreee wrote: »
    Do you wanna take out crouch walking and shift walking as well?
    I don't think you can exactly control your recoil very well in mid hop compared to someone shift or crouch walking.
    And it's so easy to learn...
    its not to shoot while they do it its just they move so fast and you cant hear them anywhere
  • abel95 wrote: »
    I think it's fair! Knifes + bhop vs guns....
    i didn't say they should remove it in gm i said that in one of my posts in gm its fine it helps people to play good with a knife but i mean it for S&D,EM,.... because when its a open place they can b-hop of the one side to the other side of the map and no one would hear them and they can do it in a few sec
  • suiles wrote: »
    its not to shoot while they do it its just they move so fast and you cant hear them anywhere

    It actually is also to shoot. You know when someone HSes you while jumping through the air and you probably scream "HACKER!!!" at him???

    That guy was just crouching in the air. You can shoot accurately while in the air if you're crouched.

    Before you make a thread asking to make the game easier, maybe read a guide or two and try to get better at the game. Instead of asking the devs to pu55ify the game for you.
  • ' wrote:
    dvda[;2898976']It actually is also to shoot. You know when someone HSes you while jumping through the air and you probably scream "HACKER!!!" at him???

    That guy was just crouching in the air. You can shoot accurately while in the air if you're crouched.

    Before you make a thread asking to make the game easier, maybe read a guide or two and try to get better at the game. Instead of asking the devs to pu55ify the game for you.
    well i dont call them hacker because he hs me in midd air......... i just mean they move faster then normal and you dont hear them like i dont think the makers made it so everone could go b-hop on s&d,em,..... maps but people say its made for gm well i dont think so because as it would be made for gm you only could do it in gm like think of it that each player would b-hop in s&d you cant hear them and they move really fast like as they would go slower then someone that run there well fine but they can do it faster then running
  • Bunny hopping is a glitch in how the games engine works.
    To fix it would require remaking the engine. Remaking the engine might as well be making a new game from scratch.

    It is allowed because it adds a few new elements to strategy with out breaking the game and it also helps balance ghost mode.

    If they remove B hopping then the Ghost in GM stand no chance against a good team of GR players that work together, even if they remove breath as well. All Gr would have to do is camp the entrances to the sites and shoot the ghost that appear.
  • VATAV wrote: »
    Bunny hopping is a glitch in how the games engine works.
    To fix it would require remaking the engine. Remaking the engine might as well be making a new game from scratch.

    It is allowed because it adds a few new elements to strategy with out breaking the game and it also helps balance ghost mode.

    If they remove B hopping then the Ghost in GM stand no chance against a good team of GR players that work together, even if they remove breath as well. All Gr would have to do is camp the entrances to the sites and shoot the ghost that appear.
    i knew it was like some kinda glitch the b-hop but i allready though they wouldn't be able to remove it because as they would remove it now i geuss they got to change it about the crouched jump and i dont think they can change that like you said they would need to change kinda everthing but im sure they didn't mean to make the b-hop
  • suiles wrote: »
    i knew it was like some kinda glitch the b-hop but i allready though they wouldn't be able to remove it because as they would remove it now i geuss they got to change it about the crouched jump and i dont think they can change that like you said they would need to change kinda everthing but im sure they didn't mean to make the b-hop

    It was unintentional, but many competitive games out there have unintentional glitches that become mainstream for tournament players. Bugs in how the games engine are very hard to remove or fix with out breaking the game or making new glitches appear. Plus it is very time consuming to do.
    At the risk of breaking the game or adding even new glitches that might be even worse, most game makers leave the glitches in if they aren't that big a of a issue.
  • ' wrote:
    dvda[;2898976']It actually is also to shoot. You know when someone HSes you while jumping through the air and you probably scream "HACKER!!!" at him???

    That guy was just crouching in the air. You can shoot accurately while in the air if you're crouched.

    Before you make a thread asking to make the game easier, maybe read a guide or two and try to get better at the game. Instead of asking the devs to pu55ify the game for you.
    If you can accurately shoot someone in mid air crouching then teach me. :|
    It's usually crossfire lag that makes you believe they shot you in mid air when we really, on their screen, they're on the ground and on your screen it appears they're still in the air.
    suiles wrote: »
    i knew it was like some kinda glitch the b-hop but i allready though they wouldn't be able to remove it because as they would remove it now i geuss they got to change it about the crouched jump and i dont think they can change that like you said they would need to change kinda everthing but im sure they didn't mean to make the b-hop
    It was a glitch, instead of removing it, they made it easier to do now it's an intentional part of gameplay.
  • VATAV wrote: »
    It was unintentional, but many competitive games out there have unintentional glitches that become mainstream for tournament players. Bugs in how the games engine are very hard to remove or fix with out breaking the game or making new glitches appear. Plus it is very time consuming to do.
    At the risk of breaking the game or adding even new glitches that might be even worse, most game makers leave the glitches in if they aren't that big a of a issue.
    well everone allways say b-hop isn't a glitch they made it that way but yeah in gm it would be really hard to play as bl and win it the only way they could win is playing vs people that dont know gm but too bad they cant get it out for s&d or any other mode i was kinda looking what a mod would say about it but it seems they didn't see it i geuss
  • pinetreee wrote: »
    If you can accurately shoot someone in mid air crouching then teach me. :|
    It's usually crossfire lag that makes you believe they shot you in mid air when we really, on their screen, they're on the ground and on your screen it appears they're still in the air.

    It was a glitch, instead of removing it, they made it easier to do now it's an intentional part of gameplay.
    so its server lag like most of the time when i shoot someone in midd air they dont die even when i see blood but like you said they show up like they are in midd air but on the ground and you can do it shoot hs in midd air but you got to learn it and i dont really try to learn to be pro and shoot people in midd air its just a game so i dont take it to serious
  • suiles wrote: »
    well everone allways say b-hop isn't a glitch they made it that way but yeah in gm it would be really hard to play as bl and win it the only way they could win is playing vs people that dont know gm but too bad they cant get it out for s&d or any other mode i was kinda looking what a mod would say about it but it seems they didn't see it i geuss

    The mods here don't speak with the devs, they were just asked by Z8 to keep the forums under control. Very unlikely they know anything about the development of the game. The GM's might know tho, but getting them to reveal anything more then "we'll look into it" is like trying to get water from a rock.
  • VATAV wrote: »
    The mods here don't speak with the devs, they were just asked by Z8 to keep the forums under control. Very unlikely they know anything about the development of the game. The GM's might know tho, but getting them to reveal anything more then "we'll look into it" is like trying to get water from a rock.
    i though they talk on the forums like are people do and may i ask what you mean with "the devs" im not really a person that go alot of forums like you can see at how much posts i got xD
  • suiles wrote: »
    i though they talk on the forums like are people do and may i ask what you mean with "the devs" im not really a person that go alot of forums like you can see at how much posts i got xD

    Dev is short for developers.
    The people that make the game.

    Z8 is just a host for this game they don't update it.
    The GMs can make suggestions to the Devs about the game but ultimately Z8 has very little influence over it.
  • If you listen carefully you can hear the "swoosh" of the jump.

    If they got rid of it especially in GM the balance would be ruined between GR and the BL.
  • If you listen carefully you can hear the "swoosh" of the jump.

    If they got rid of it especially in GM the balance would be ruined between GR and the BL.
    well try to hear that when you play pubs and other people over at the hotel when your at long A and they shoot you can still hear them? and i do say as they take about the b-hop gm most wouldn't join bl anymore because no one can be good anymore only vs real noobs
  • VATAV wrote: »
    Dev is short for developers.
    The people that make the game.

    Z8 is just a host for this game they don't update it.
    The GMs can make suggestions to the Devs about the game but ultimately Z8 has very little influence over it.
    well i know z8 isn't the maker on the game i though smillgate or something like that was the maker not sure though
  • suiles wrote: »
    well try to hear that when you play pubs and other people over at the hotel when your at long A and they shoot you can still hear them? and i do say as they take about the b-hop gm most wouldn't join bl anymore because no one can be good anymore only vs real noobs

    That has nothing to do with the OPness of Bhopping, but moreso the lack of teamwork in pubs. If Bhopping was removed, the balance between the two teams would be completely thrown out the window. Camp at spots where you see them but they can't touch you = Win. Every single round GR would win, and then you'd QQing about them removing bhop.

    Edit: Can you please type with capitals and actual sentences? I can hardly read what you're typing.
  • iBobRawrs wrote: »
    That has nothing to do with the OPness of Bhopping, but moreso the lack of teamwork in pubs. If Bhopping was removed, the balance between the two teams would be completely thrown out the window. Camp at spots where you see them but they can't touch you = Win. Every single round GR would win, and then you'd QQing about them removing bhop.

    Edit: Can you please type with capitals and actual sentences? I can hardly read what you're typing.
    i dont say they remove it for ghost mode,i said they should do it for s&d or em i know as they remove it in ghost mode that each gr just gonna camp somewhere and with
    "well try to hear that when you play pubs and other people over at the hotel when your at long A and they shoot you can still hear them?" was on S&D map eagle eyes,and sorry but i never learn english at school. So i had to learn it by myself or friend,movies,games,...... So i dont think its that bad since i never learn it at school and i never talk it at home. I hope its good enough now.
  • suiles wrote: »
    i dont say they remove it for ghost mode,i said they should do it for s&d or em i know as they remove it in ghost mode that each gr just gonna camp somewhere and with
    "well try to hear that when you play pubs and other people over at the hotel when your at long A and they shoot you can still hear them?" was on S&D map eagle eyes,and sorry but i never learn english at school. So i had to learn it by myself or friend,movies,games,...... So i dont think its that bad since i never learn it at school and i never talk it at home. I hope its good enough now.

    Bhopping in other modes is rarely seen and doesn't really give an unfair advantage to anyone seeing as half of your shots don't go where you want them to when you're shooting mid-Bhop.

    OT:I'm not talking about your spelling and such, but your punctuation. It's an eyesore to read.