[OFFICIAL] April Patch Discussion - DISCUSS IT HERE ONLY

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  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    I never said there was only 1 gun being removed. The context of the discussion was in light of the upcoming patch. Not previous updates. In that case then yes, the Black Market changes have been a series of changes which have removed some "easier to acquire" permanent weapons from the Black Market.

    I know exactly how many are being exchanged and how many ZP temp are being purchased. At current stats over the last 3 months, more people have purchased the Bushmaster ACR than the PSG-1 Red Dragon, infact the number is almost doubled. (and that includes the fact that people have known for a few days now that their last opportunity to exchange for the PSG-1 RD is right now)

    If this was the case you wouldn't have any permanent weapons except the ones in the ZP Crates, we would have less gp permanent weapons than most versions of CF, Gold weapons would be an impossibility. Coupons would only give temporary weapons (for all categories). Dog Tags would reward you with name cards and sprays instead of usable in-game items.

    If the straight up argument is that we as the publishers have had zero influence on the number of permanent weapons that have been available in the game, then that argument is false. Because we have had an incredible amount of influence.

    Has the permanent weapons in the black market affected the growth of the game from the average users perspective? Yes, because we are seeing less people have a desire to exchange for multiple permanent weapons past the first one. Do the developers (Smilegate) feel the need to act on this? Yes. Temporary weapons is their solution. We agree with their decisions even if it is not the most ideal. And continue to influence them so that as LITTLE permanent weapons can be removed as possible. The top 2 tiers in the Coupon Exchange area are remaining permanent.

    We always send input to Smilegate, especially with dealing with these issues. And changes were going to come to the Black Market coupon exchange system. Whether or not we were powerless to stop it or not, the changes weren't all that bad and could have positive affects on the growth of the game from the general perspective of newer users.
    Well then next time pls dont announce to soon.
  • abel95 wrote: »
    Oh I'm sorry, I mean...

    4 New Snipers.
    1 New melee weapon.
    2 New rifle guns.

    Still wrong.
    BlindNate wrote: »
    Well then next time pls dont announce to soon.

    It's Z8Games choice to announce it. You interpreted it the way you did.
  • [MOD]9 wrote: »
    Confirmation that the new weapons will be a 90 day version replacing the AWM Camo and PSG RD.

    me congratulations, greedy Z8Games :) you kill the game by himself. Great idea!
  • brodiki1 wrote: »
    me congratulations, greedy Z8Games :) you kill the game by himself. Great idea!

    The game will be dead when there isn't one player in a server.

    Still not true.
  • brodiki1 wrote: »
    me congratulations, greedy Z8Games :) you kill the game by himself. Great idea!

    So sorry you can't read, Z8 Games isn't the one switching coupon guns to temp it's the DEVELOPERS << learn this word
  • abel95 wrote: »
    Oh I'm sorry, I mean...

    4 New Snipers.
    1 New melee weapon.
    2 New rifle guns.
    [MOD]Hi wrote: »
    Still wrong.

    Ok then:

    4 New Snipers.
    1 New melee weapon.
    1 New rifle guns.
    1 Shotgun.

    I bet your still going to say I'm wrong...lol
  • [MOD]Rex wrote: »
    I stopped right there.

    You made me laugh thinking you have a freedom of speech.

    Let me give you a little hint, G4Box being a private company owns this site as a private site.

    Your freedom of speech doesn't exist. You don't have freedom of speech with any private companies.

    If you want to know more about that, talk to Grey, he'll give you one long as speech about how you have no freedom of speech what-so-ever.





    I'm sure millions of people love you enough to do that.

    Most people won't even F11 a cheater when a Moderator says to, and you think you could get enough people out of this game to make a difference?
    Nothing stops me to diss all of you outside of the site though, but I wouldn't want to come to that simply because it's annoying and to be honest unnecessary. Though the truth of all of you being perfectly useless in game administration shall be told. That's the point.

    @ Hi > You are not needed either pal. Moderators and "administrators" are just about as powerless as we players are. The only thing you can do is to ban someone whenever they start to point out your wrong moves, but in fact you have absolutely no power abour anything. We're on equal ground mate, so get that ego back where it came from.

    Besides, I don't even know why you're opening it since you don't have any knowledge either. You're just about as much of a buffoon as everyone else in this game, except that you have a special namecard and the ability to silence and ban me whenever I point out too much.
  • abel95 wrote: »
    Ok then:

    4 New Snipers.
    1 New melee weapon.
    1 New rifle guns.
    1 Shotgun.

    I bet your still going to say I'm wrong...lol

    You are.
  • brodiki1 wrote: »
    me congratulations, greedy Z8Games :) you kill the game by himself. Great idea!

    They're trying to make the coupon system more challenging and it's nice to have a change :)
    And I noticed that we are getting more GP weapons so be patient at the moment.
  • BlindNate wrote: »
    Ok i'm ****ing changing my forum name from DNate54 to BLINDNATE because i'm ****ing blind.I didn't saw that in previous announcement there will be removing only 1 weapon instead 2.

    Let me link it to you since you continue to not see that they are removing the AWM Camo as well as the PSG RD.
    http://forum.z8games.com/showpost.php?p=2923928&postcount=217
  • EmoTiiVe wrote: »
    Nothing stops me to diss all of you outside of the site though, but I wouldn't want to come to that simply because it's annoying and to be honest unnecessary. Though the truth of all of you being perfectly useless in game administration shall be told. That's the point.

    @ Hi > You are not needed either pal. Moderators and "administrators" are just about as powerless as we players are. The only thing you can do is to ban someone whenever they start to point out your wrong moves, but in fact you have absolutely no power abour anything. We're on equal ground mate, so get that ego back where it came from.

    Besides, I don't even know why you're opening it since you don't have any knowledge either. You're just about as much of a buffoon as everyone else in this game, except that you have a special namecard and the ability to silence and ban me whenever I point out too much.

    Oh, if you only knew. You clearly know nothing about what the moderators and administrators do. And you're just proving my point right. Read my previous posts about how the community knows nothing about what we (referring to all of Z8Games, with myself as a volunteer) do.

    You don't know anything.
  • Someone close this thread. It's just becoming full of spam of stupid complaints!!

    JUST DEAL WITH IT OR LEAVE.....!
  • EmoTiiVe wrote: »
    Nothing stops me to diss all of you outside of the site though, but I wouldn't want to come to that simply because it's annoying and to be honest unnecessary. Though the truth of all of you being perfectly useless in game administration shall be told. That's the point.

    @ Hi > You are not needed either pal. Moderators and "administrators" are just about as powerless as we players are. The only thing you can do is to ban someone whenever they start to point out your wrong moves, but in fact you have absolutely no power abour anything. We're on equal ground mate, so get that ego back where it came from.

    Besides, I don't even know why you're opening it since you don't have any knowledge either. You're just about as much of a buffoon as everyone else in this game, except that you have a special namecard and the ability to silence and ban me whenever I point out too much.

    You say the only thing they do is ban, they can ban you for using such language and they also organize events as well. These people have done a lot to us players and this is how you treat them.

    /Thread
  • No, debating stops here. I'll be very strict and hand out major infractions.

    This is the final warning for all.

    This is the fact of the matter. Users know less than moderators about the game. You make assumptions, we have facts.
  • Is ok to replace with temp items , but replace it with actualy good weaps like barret or stuff like that, instead of replacing stuff that even uzi can beat that are temp. Japese cf are great, chinese cf are all temp, but they are paying for great temp items and a good hacking detected software. If there just gonan a bunch of temp stuff that are worthless than m16 and uzi or m700, that is just not the way. Most game company are private company, but they don't talk to their customers like they are under custody.
  • 5cm wrote: »
    Is ok to replace with temp items , but replace it with actualy good weaps like barret or stuff like that, instead of replacing stuff that even uzi can beat that are temp. Japese cf are great, chinese cf are all temp, but they are paying for great temp items and a good hacking detected software. If there just gonan a bunch of temp stuff that are worthless than m16 and uzi or m700, that is just not the way. Most game company are private company, but they don't talk to their customers like they are under custody.

    But here's the funniest thing. Forumers don't even know what is coming. They assume the worst. You don't even know what is replacing the AWM Camo and the PSG-Red Dragon.

    Before you judge, remember, you have no clue what's coming.
  • [MOD]Hi wrote: »
    But here's the funniest thing. Forumers don't even know what is coming. They assume the worst. You don't even know what is replacing the AWM Camo and the PSG-Red Dragon.

    Before you judge, remember, you have no clue what's coming.

    What if I have already seen the image of the new guns? Plus I play Chinese Crossfire, so I have played on nearly every map etc...
  • abel95 wrote: »
    What if I have already seen the image of the new guns? Plus I play Chinese Crossfire, so I have played on nearly every map etc...

    There are no guarantees that the items you saw will be added.
  • [MOD]9 wrote: »
    Let me link it to you since you continue to not see that they are removing the AWM Camo as well as the PSG RD.
    http://forum.z8games.com/showpost.php?p=2923928&postcount=217
    yea AFTER CHANGE OF HEART!!
    sudenly from good admins they all gone bad.
    lets start make people cry about the awm camo also ny puting the meele weapon into the 70 coupons.
    this game makes me to quit now and never return to it because i remember the quotes of our belloved Saidin that they will never copy the other version of CF.which it fails atm.
    wrench-CFCN
    new ****y meele-CFCN
    simply copy of it.
    But guessing you are right we need to be hive mind people.
  • BlindNate wrote: »
    yea AFTER CHANGE OF HEART!!
    sudenly from good admins they all gone bad.
    lets start make people cry about the awm camo also ny puting the meele weapon into the 70 coupons.
    this game makes me to quit now and never return to it because i remember the quotes of our belloved Saidin that they will never copy the other version of CF.which it fails atm.
    wrench-CFCN
    new ****y meele-CFCN
    simply copy of it.
    But guessing you are right we need to be hive mind people.

    Who said that a melee weapon would be put into the 70 coupons?

    I've already infracted you for continuing the debate. I'll do it again if need be.

    Leave if you want, we don't need people who attack the game for no apparent reason except for the fact that they don't like something that the developers who own the game decide to do.

    This isn't like a corporation. You aren't a shareholder nor an owner. You have no say in what happens.
  • [MOD]Hi wrote: »
    But here's the funniest thing. Forumers don't even know what is coming. They assume the worst. You don't even know what is replacing the AWM Camo and the PSG-Red Dragon.

    Before you judge, remember, you have no clue what's coming.

    Preparing for the worse is what saves people :P
    Anyway, you really can't blame people for assuming something if it's not clearly told(I know patch previews are to tease peeps) some people just can't handle it that z8 MAYBE is going the way that allot of other cf versions have gone and that is making the cf coupon system a temporary weapon sl*t

    imo I don't like it but I will not freak about it because I just won't spend my coupons on it.


    I suggest you close this thread till next patch preview seems like peeps are just getting to mad.
  • [MOD]Hi wrote: »
    But here's the funniest thing. Forumers don't even know what is coming. They assume the worst. You don't even know what is replacing the AWM Camo and the PSG-Red Dragon.

    Before you judge, remember, you have no clue what's coming.

    true, im just saying through, like overall, temp zp items should be better if is going to be temp, the rant should come after the patch, but mods should delete replys and give warnings instead of replying to them, since there are gonna be endless of rants, and some mods' replies are insulting to public players. some are true, some are not, so we will have to see after the patch =]
  • 5cm wrote: »
    true, im just saying through, like overall, temp zp items should be better if is going to be temp, the rant should come after the patch, but mods should delete replys and give warnings instead of replying to them, since there are gonna be endless of rants, and some mods' replies are insulting to public players. some are true, some are not, so we will have to see after the patch =]

    And that's exactly what's happened. We're not allowing any further debate on the subject.

    Instead of censoring the public, we want to reason with them. But that obviously hasn't worked, so we're falling back to the one thing we can do. Stopping the discussion before it gets any worse.
  • Good News is AWM sliver is BP weapon
    But next patch is so bad . Nothing special
  • Good News is AWM sliver is BP weapon
    But next patch is so bad . Nothing special

    Who said there was an AWM silver coming?

    Who said there was anything coming in the first place? The only confirmed changes are outlined in OP by the moderators.
  • The AWM-Camo is leaving?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!??!?!?????????

    I thought it was just the PSG-RD...goddamnit...

    The weapons that are replacing it better be some lasers and rocket launchers...

    Should I get the AWM-Camo or keep on going for the Gold AK?
  • GoPancakes wrote: »
    The AWM-Camo is leaving?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!??!?!?????????

    I thought it was just the PSG-RD...goddamnit...

    Unfortunately, yes.
  • [MOD]Hi wrote: »
    And that's exactly what's happened. We're not allowing any further debate on the subject.

    Instead of censoring the public, we want to reason with them. But that obviously hasn't worked, so we're falling back to the one thing we can do. Stopping the discussion before it gets any worse.

    reasoning wouldn't work before the patch, yes censoring would be the right choice instead of replying like this QQ20120417155607.png which are close to insults to any players. Thank you for your time, and any rants,sugguestion, or questions should come after the patch
  • GoPancakes wrote: »
    Should I get the AWM-Camo or keep on going for the Gold AK?

    uh AWM Camo of course...
  • [MOD]Hi wrote: »
    Who said there was an AWM silver coming?

    Who said there was anything coming in the first place? The only confirmed changes are outlined in OP by the moderators.

    <removed>
    I only care about Beretta M82A1 , whatever any skin of the AWM update
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