My thoughts! What do you think?
I see something very interesting in that forum.
Many say here that despite everything, the regulars of this forum do not represent the majority of players of the CF. I believe that. If not, would be a hell of players satisfied and dissatisfied (a problem for the MOD). But even so, some here want to define what is right or wrong, good or bad in this game.
I've even seen opinions on who could play or not. Some even claimed that some of the game modes are for professionals (if that exists here) or newcomers (such as MM / HM and TDM against EE and GM). That some weapons may or may not be used in the game (otherwise the player will be kicked).
I think we have many sheriffs. For a little Wild West here. We should focus more on how to improve the mechanics of the game and less about the play and tastes of each player.
Many say here that despite everything, the regulars of this forum do not represent the majority of players of the CF. I believe that. If not, would be a hell of players satisfied and dissatisfied (a problem for the MOD). But even so, some here want to define what is right or wrong, good or bad in this game.
I've even seen opinions on who could play or not. Some even claimed that some of the game modes are for professionals (if that exists here) or newcomers (such as MM / HM and TDM against EE and GM). That some weapons may or may not be used in the game (otherwise the player will be kicked).
I think we have many sheriffs. For a little Wild West here. We should focus more on how to improve the mechanics of the game and less about the play and tastes of each player.
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Whit3_W0lf wrote: »and how do we do that?
its not like the devs give a **** abbout us anyway
Yes it's true. Developers have to hear us. But who would hear a bunch of people who talk about everything? Like a bunch of kids. If we are trying to be God in this game and we go to the absurdity of trying to define right or wrong, we'll be without power of speech when we want to be taken seriously. So I propose a practical focus on what really matters. -
Confederado wrote: »Yes it's true. Developers have to hear us. But who would hear a bunch of people who talk about everything? Like a bunch of kids. If we are trying to be God in this game and we go to the absurdity of trying to define right or wrong, we'll be without power of speech when we want to be taken seriously. So I propose a practical focus on what really matters.
Yes like the topics which are pretty much banned from discussion: Ping caps, vote kicks, secuirty issues, trading, content from other games, etc.
There is a REASON why people talk about what they talk about. -
Confederado wrote: »Yes it's true. Developers have to hear us. But who would hear a bunch of people who talk about everything? Like a bunch of kids. If we are trying to be God in this game and we go to the absurdity of trying to define right or wrong, we'll be without power of speech when we want to be taken seriously. So I propose a practical focus on what really matters.
nicely put.
GL with that, i know i wont keep my hopes up for either of those things happening, ever. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Yes like the topics which are pretty much banned from discussion: Ping caps, vote kicks, secuirty issues, trading, content from other games, etc.
There is a REASON why people talk about what they talk about.
I'm not saying that certain topics are not important. But if we engage in meaningless topics, nothing will favor us. At the moment we have to guide us on to more important or at least that are important for good game. Instead, we will not have the minimum support. I see threads like: "If someone uses such a weapon, you kick?" Or: Let's limit Brazilians? they disrupt the game. "then we want to be taken seriously when we take a hint, or want more safety and quality in the game. Many go on to be seen as troublemakers rather than as people willing to help. And with that the whole forum to be seen as a daycare than an arena for discussion. -
D0cHoliday wrote: »Any1 who has been on these forums long enough would know the dev's dont give a shi.t
I will not heed a child talking nonsense to me. Would you do it too. So I say we have to act like adults to be treated as adults. Even if many here are not. Be talking nonsense in the forum will make developers or other people important to the game, stop coming to the forum to get ideas. And then we were outside the circle of ideas and we become just spectators. -
Confederado wrote: »I will not heed a child talking nonsense to me. Would you do it too. So I say we have to act like adults to be treated as adults. Even if many here are not. Be talking nonsense in the forum will make developers or other people important to the game, stop coming to the forum to get ideas. And then we were outside the circle of ideas and we become just spectators.
U must be new the dev,s dont even come on this forum only saidin talk to them even so they pretty much ignore him -
D0cHoliday wrote: »U must be new the dev,s dont even come on this forum only saidin talk to them even so they pretty much ignore him
Great ! Whatever! So GM Saidin transmits infos to the devs. And if you were a GM? From what you read here. You would pass that?
I'll give a hint: "- Devs, use SPOP with armor and M12 is a thing of unskilled player . Better to create a version of chopsticks for the true professional."
or better
"- devs, players complain that guns kill in the game. We should create weapons that shoot messages of love and affection."
Because that's what people here discuss. When you start talking about hackers, these people are worthless. -
Confederado wrote: »Great ! Whatever! So GM Saidin transmits infos to the devs. And if you were a GM? From what you read here. You would pass that?
I'll give a hint: "- Devs, use SPOP with armor and M12 is a thing of unskilled player . Better to create a version of chopsticks for the true professional."
or better
"- devs, players complain that guns kill in the game. We should create weapons that shoot messages of love and affection."
Because that's what people here discuss. When you start talking about hackers, these people are worthless.
I highly doubt he tells the devs that if u actually think that u must be smoking something and u should get help -
D0cHoliday wrote: »I highly doubt he tells the devs that if u actually think that u must be smoking something and u should get help
Look, a forum is a place for conversations. A place to germinate ideas. The whole time we were in offending or diverting our attention from important issues, lost value. I've seen some ideas generated here are implemented. I once read about a player who has proposed a shooting range. And although he appeared in the game. if it was coincidence, I dunno. But still, if they do not give us attention, we will make that give. -
The shooting range was suggested by people AFTER it was put in other versions of CF. This version didn't get it exclusively. I'm all up for fixing and changing the mechanics of the game but making your customers happy is a better option. They won't listen to us anyways. The chances of any of those 2 happening are...they don't even exist.
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Confederado wrote: »Look, a forum is a place for conversations. A place to germinate ideas. The whole time we were in offending or diverting our attention from important issues, lost value. I've seen some ideas generated here are implemented. I once read about a player who has proposed a shooting range. And although he appeared in the game. if it was coincidence, I dunno. But still, if they do not give us attention, we will make that give.
that shooting range thing was already implanted in the other cf version i know waht u mean but when u go in a game with other ppl lagging and ure shooting a whole clip at them and they wont die because they have 150+ping u get mad and they come on the forums and post there madness even though all this can be avoided with PING LIMITED ROOMS or just put 2 servers with ping limit and i highly doubt that will happend -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »The shooting range was suggested by people AFTER it was put in other versions of CF. This version didn't get it exclusively. I'm all up for fixing and changing the mechanics of the game but making your customers happy is a better option. They won't listen to us anyways. They won't make us feel satisfied OR fix the mechanics.
Then someone somewhere (perhaps a forum) developed the idea. And it was deployed. And just because they do not listen to us we would like, this gives us the right to use the forum to harm, prejudice, nonsensical topics? Or worse, use the forum to set the game to others? This only weakens us as a warehouse of ideas. -
Uh...nope. I bet they already had that prepared. We suggested it about 1 week after CF China or whoever got it.
They do give us the forums but what do they do? If they don't listen to us then how are we harming them? They're harming and ignoring us. There's a point in people where they just can't hold it any longer and they need go to boom. Their limit. Everyone has one. You can't keep anger or stress inside you forever or you will get zombie aids. -
Confederado wrote: »Then someone somewhere (perhaps a forum) developed the idea. And it was deployed. And just because they do not listen to us we would like, this gives us the right to use the forum to harm, prejudice, nonsensical topics? Or worse, use the forum to set the game to others? This only weakens us as a warehouse of ideas.
Every1 has there limits -
D0cHoliday wrote: »that shooting range thing was already implanted in the other cf version i know waht u mean but when u go in a game with other ppl lagging and ure shooting a whole clip at them and they wont die because they have 150+ping u get mad and they come on the forums and post there madness even though all this can be avoided with PING LIMITED ROOMS or just put 2 servers with ping limit and i highly doubt that will happend
This problem of ping is well discussed here. But the implementation of access barriers grounded in ping a user is no solution. Is segregation. An international game has to deal with it. And players who want to participate in it, too. Prevent one person or another is never a good idea. Segregationist ideas like these that tarnish history of mankind. So, this is not a path, is a patch. And the worst. -
Confederado wrote: »This problem of ping is well discussed here. But the implementation of access barriers grounded in ping a user is no solution. Is segregation. An international game has to deal with it. And players who want to participate in it, too. Prevent one person or another is never a good idea. Segregationist ideas like these that tarnish history of mankind. So, this is not a path, is a patch. And the worst.
then u shouldent get mad at the ppl posting threads about them on the forums since theres nothing being done about it -
They could just make 1 server for NA people only and another one for UK people only. There would still be about...10? servers open for the whole world. Maybe that's segregation but it isn't vanishing everyone else from the game. We don't want to play with them for obvious reasons that they themselves already know. They shouldn't get mad at us for not wanting to deal with their crap. But meh...it wont happen.
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L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Uh...nope. I bet they already had that prepared. We suggested it about 1 week after CF China or whoever got it.
They do give us the forums but what do they do? If they don't listen to us then how are we harming them? They're harming and ignoring us. There's a point in people where they just can't hold it any longer and they need go to boom. Their limit. Everyone has one. You can't keep anger or stress inside you forever or you will get zombie aids.D0cHoliday wrote: »Every1 has there limits
We all have limits. But when it comes to a game limit becomes lower. Why? Because we can be anonymous? Or because they offended someone, it does not come back to us? This is abuse, no limit. This is lack of control. And it is an indictment against the whole forum. We get the image of people out of control. If they do not listen to us when we're good. Who will say when we lose our control? -
They don't listen to us period. So it doesn't matter if we're under control or not.
And yes, a game limit, whatever that means, is lower. But it isn't endless. If you can't enjoy a game, and thats the whole point of a game, then things need to be said. -
Confederado wrote: »We all have limits. But when it comes to a game limit becomes lower. Why? Because we can be anonymous? Or because they offended someone, it does not come back to us? This is abuse, no limit. This is lack of control. And it is an indictment against the whole forum. We get the image of people out of control. If they do not listen to us when we're good. Who will say when we lose our control?
They dont listen to us when we are good or if we are bad since they dont even come here so whats the point of posting ideas ? or even trying to help the community when the game makers themself dont want to make the game better -
i think alot of us would complain less if laggers were stuck to the server where they lagg the less unless invited otherwise(excluding clan server of course)
the weapons issue would be solved if rather then wasting their time reskinning guns theyde fix the horrible reg system
and people would complain less overall if the game mods and devs actually listened to them(also maybe some kind of translate would be nice like all messages read in english for english speakers and all in portagese for the br's ect ect -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »And yes, a game limit, whatever that means, is lower. But it isn't endless. If you can't enjoy a game, and thats the whole point of a game, then things need to be said.
Yeah, but if you have to say something, what's the point? They don't listen to use anyway... -
What defines a dev is not doing anything? The time it takes to change something? Have you noticed that changes take time? That nothing is done from night to day (unless it is of poor quality (hey, I'm Brazilian, here things are done in a hurry and say are incomplete))? Everything in life takes time. a little faith does not hinder anyone's life. "Patience is a virtue" William Shakespeare once said.
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D0cHoliday wrote: »They dont listen to us when we are good or if we are bad since they dont even come here so whats the point of posting ideas ? or even trying to help the community when the game makers themself dont want to make the game better
exactl y -
Confederado wrote: »What defines a dev is not doing anything? The time it takes to change something? Have you noticed that changes take time? That nothing is done from night to day (unless it is of poor quality (hey, I'm Brazilian, here things are done in a hurry and say are incomplete))? Everything in life takes time. a little faith does not hinder anyone's life. "Patience is a virtue" William Shakespeare once said.
Adding Gun Re-skins every patch looks like there actually making the game better yes clearly how could i be so blind *sarcasm* -
Yeah, but if you have to say something, what's the point? They don't listen to use anyway...
ToucheConfederado wrote: »What defines a dev is not doing anything? The time it takes to change something? Have you noticed that changes take time? That nothing is done from night to day (unless it is of poor quality (hey, I'm Brazilian, here things are done in a hurry and say are incomplete))? Everything in life takes time. a little faith does not hinder anyone's life. "Patience is a virtue" William Shakespeare once said.
Hey I always say that too
Things take time yes..but do little things, for example putting death zones in 2 year old glitches, really take that much time to fix? How hard is it to balance a weapon? I'm no coder or developer but I know they can do better and they can do it quickly.
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