My thoughts! What do you think?
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L0LSmilyFace wrote: »They don't listen to us period. So it doesn't matter if we're under control or not.
And yes, a game limit, whatever that means, is lower. But it isn't endless. If you can't enjoy a game, and thats the whole point of a game, then things need to be said.
I understand. But when you say something, nobody will hear you. Why? Because you got a picture of person who complains too much. Many of them meaningless. And that does not deserve the word value. So I say here that we should concentrate more on useful subjects, not nonsense. -
so youre telling us they have time to make 30+ reskined weapons, 20? new weapns, lots of maps, MM/HM with all the ZP goodies for it, a ****ing A.I. mode but they cant fix a simple thing as the showel animation lag?Confederado wrote: »What defines a dev is not doing anything? The time it takes to change something? Have you noticed that changes take time? That nothing is done from night to day (unless it is of poor quality (hey, I'm Brazilian, here things are done in a hurry and say are incomplete))? Everything in life takes time. a little faith does not hinder anyone's life. "Patience is a virtue" William Shakespeare once said. -
Confederado wrote: »I understand. But when you say something, nobody will hear you. Why? Because you got a picture of person who complains too much. Many of them meaningless. And that does not deserve the word value. So I say here that we should concentrate more on useful subjects, not nonsense.
Fixing or making the reg better is nonsense? Fixing the coding of this game is nonsense?
THIS IS MADNESS.
sparta
kick
And again, they don't listen to us, PERIOD. Even if the president of any country made an account and said "Give us a new weapon like dual m9's" they wouldn't do it. It doesn't matter who you are, except the GMs, they won't listen to you. -
Confederado wrote: »I understand. But when you say something, nobody will hear you. Why? Because you got a picture of person who complains too much. Many of them meaningless. And that does not deserve the word value. So I say here that we should concentrate more on useful subjects, not nonsense.
whats the point of concentrating on useful subject if they dont even look at the forums ? -
The Devs are part of a corporation, and we all know big corporations are out to make money. They only care about money and not about their customers. If they did care about their customers, it's because happy customers = paying customers.
Why should they care? There are only a few of us who actually want this game to improve and have suggestions to do so. There are many others who aren't satisfied with the game but they've accepted the fact that they can do nothing about it, so they don't care anymore. Since there are only a few of us, the devs know that the majority of players will continue to buy ZP and make them rich, so they don't care if they lose a couple of people buying ZP.
Bottom line: The devs don't care, they're greedy and lazy and they're only out there to make money. Whatever happened to "The customer is always right"? -
The Devs are part of a corporation, and we all know big corporations are out to make money. They only care about money and not about their customers. If they did care about their customers, it's because happy customers = paying customers.
Why should they care? There are only a few of us who actually want this game to improve and have suggestions to do so. There are many others who aren't satisfied with the game but they've accepted the fact that they can do nothing about it, so they don't care anymore. Since there are only a few of us, the devs know that the majority of players will continue to buy ZP and make them rich, so they don't care if they lose a couple of people buying ZP.
Bottom line: The devs don't care, they're greedy and lazy and they're only out there to make money. Whatever happened to "The customer is always right"?
The customer is always right only counts when ure in a fast food restaurant -
Whit3_W0lf wrote: »so youre telling us they have time to make 30+ reskined weapons, 20? new weapns, lots of maps, MM/HM with all the ZP goodies for it, a ****ing A.I. mode but they cant fix a simple thing as the showel animation lag?
They have time, they have lots of time, they just don't care. Tons of OLD glitches out there that have been around for a while, and nothing happens about them. Meanwhile, we get tons oh HM/MM maps and reskinned M4s/AKs/Deagles/AWMs.
These glitches have been around forever, yet, they have never been fixed and probably never will be fixed. Again, this is probably because the devs don't even know about the glitches because they don't listen to the players. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »The customer is always right...sometimes. Look at the Valve games. They love us, their customers, so much and they're gods now. Everyone, EVERYONE loves them back.
True, and the fact that their games are actually good help too.
I think I'll stop playing CF for a bit and go beat Portal 2. :P -
i know they have the time, they just dont care...
i rly hope that^ is not the case since they have like 5? versions of cf out there they must be getting some info from somewhere, like from the GM`s.Again, this is probably because the devs don't even know about the glitches because they don't listen to the players.
but they decide to ignore it -
Whit3_W0lf wrote: »i know they have the time, they just dont care...
i rly hope that^ is not the case since they have like 5? versions of cf out there they must be getting some info from somewhere, like from the GM`s.
but they decide to ignore it
Hmm, if they did indeed just decide to ignore it, I will seriously boycott them forever. What sort of developer refuses to fix glitches?? -
Whit3_W0lf wrote: »so youre telling us they have time to make 30+ reskined weapons, 20? new weapns, lots of maps, MM/HM with all the ZP goodies for it, a ****ing A.I. mode but they cant fix a simple thing as the showel animation lag?L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Fixing or making the reg better is nonsense? Fixing the coding of this game is nonsense?
THIS IS MADNESS.
sparta
kick
And again, they don't listen to us, PERIOD. Even if the president of any country made an account and said "Give us a new weapon like dual m9's" they wouldn't do it. It doesn't matter who you are, except the GMs, they won't listen to you.D0cHoliday wrote: »whats the point of concentrating on useful subject if they dont even look at the forums ?The Devs are part of a corporation, and we all know big corporations are out to make money. They only care about money and not about their customers. If they did care about their customers, it's because happy customers = paying customers.
Why should they care? There are only a few of us who actually want this game to improve and have suggestions to do so. There are many others who aren't satisfied with the game but they've accepted the fact that they can do nothing about it, so they don't care anymore. Since there are only a few of us, the devs know that the majority of players will continue to buy ZP and make them rich, so they don't care if they lose a couple of people buying ZP.
Bottom line: The devs don't care, they're greedy and lazy and they're only out there to make money. Whatever happened to "The customer is always right"?D0cHoliday wrote: »The customer is always right only counts when ure in a fast food restaurant
I'm not saying these issues do not matter. But when we turn them, for others it has no value, we lose focus. Look: I've read that post debate about the character of a player (whether it is SIA or SPOP and how this thing is a newbie). Can you tell me "- but these people are idiots who infest the forum." But even so, earn hundreds of responses: some were in favor and others against. Then come things like who uses this weapon is weak, who uses this one, is pro! And a hundred more answers.
And so on, flooding the forums and having people return here. Suddenly, there is a decent topic. and what happens? nobody notices. Or few do.
The case of the vote kick as an example: They use it against hackers (which is right) but also against those who use: M12, Scar Light, Kukri, K2, RPK ... . and then comes this forum, advertise it. And receive more than a hundred responses.
He had once seen people complaining about the grenade launcher of the Hero in HM! (Okay that was ingame). understand? so here's a site of self promotion and not a debate. -
hes probably facepalming at our stuborness.D0cHoliday wrote: »Wheres confederado he hasent post anything in a while
what hes trying to do is noble and i wish him the best of luck.
i just dont see it happeningHmm, if they did indeed just decide to ignore it, I will seriously boycott them forever. What sort of developer refuses to fix glitches??
infinity ward :P -
Confederado wrote: »I'm not saying these issues do not matter. But when we turn them, for others it has no value, we lose focus. Look: I've read that post debate about the character of a player (whether it is SIA or SPOP and how this thing is a newbie). Can you tell me "- but these people are idiots who infest the forum." But even so, earn hundreds of responses: some were in favor and others against. Then come things like who uses this weapon is weak, who uses this one, is pro! And a hundred more answers.
And so on, flooding the forums and having people return here. Suddenly, there is a decent topic. and what happens? nobody notices. Or few do.
The case of the vote kick as an example: They use it against hackers (which is right) but also against those who use: M12, Scar Light, Kukri, K2, RPK ... . and then comes this forum, advertise it. And receive more than a hundred responses.
He had once seen people complaining about the grenade launcher of the Hero in HM! (Okay that was ingame). understand? so here's a site of self promotion and not a debate.
True, and we can use this thread as an example. This is a good topic and one of the more insightful ones, and how many people have posted here? Like 4?
It's time for a change. -
True, and we can use this thread as an example. This is a good topic and one of the more insightful ones, and how many people have posted here? Like 4?
It's time for a change.
Changes take time. And people are complex beings. if there are more topics like this, in quantity and quality, the other people in this forum will start to participate more. If we allow just junk. Crap we have. -
If the company does not worry us because it is big and powerful. And we are, just us! So the best way is an asymmetric attack. That is, show that we are organized and educated. Who are mature and controlled. Thus, our respect increases. Like our real importance.
damn ... that was beautiful!! -
Confederado wrote: »I see something very interesting in that forum.
Many say here that despite everything, the regulars of this forum do not represent the majority of players of the CF. I believe that. If not, would be a hell of players satisfied and dissatisfied (a problem for the MOD). But even so, some here want to define what is right or wrong, good or bad in this game.
I've even seen opinions on who could play or not. Some even claimed that some of the game modes are for professionals (if that exists here) or newcomers (such as MM / HM and TDM against EE and GM). That some weapons may or may not be used in the game (otherwise the player will be kicked).
I think we have many sheriffs. For a little Wild West here. We should focus more on how to improve the mechanics of the game and less about the play and tastes of each player.
+10000000000000000000000..bout time i see some common sense -
Confederado wrote: »To give you an idea of what I want: This conversation has upped the quality. At no time did take umbrage (seriously). And we have a hall of interesting ideas. The proposal is to maintain it here so we can have strength in other arenas.Confederado wrote: »Changes take time. And people are complex beings. if there are more topics like this, in quantity and quality, the other people in this forum will start to participate more. If we allow just junk. Crap we have.Confederado wrote: »If the company does not worry us because it is big and powerful. And we are, just us! So the best way is an asymmetric attack. That is, show that we are organized and educated. Who are mature and controlled. Thus, our respect increases. Like our real importance.
damn ... that was beautiful!!
That WAS beautiful.
We need solidarity. Divided we fall, united we stand. We just need to get everybody with the same views as us (and I expect there to be many) and prove ourselves. We need to show the devs that we aren't nothing, we are people who actually want something to be done about all this. Maturity is key. Nobody is going to listen to a person who "ta1k5 leik D1s". -
That WAS beautiful.
We need solidarity. Divided we fall, united we stand. We just need to get everybody with the same views as us (and I expect there to be many) and prove ourselves. We need to show the devs that we aren't nothing, we are people who actually want something to be done about all this. Maturity is key. Nobody is going to listen to a person who "ta1k5 leik D1s".
The Devs dident even look to see how they type or to see anything -
If we have patience and effort ... I think we can have results, too. An important factor is to work with the MOD and not against them. The criticism is always welcome and I know they know it. But the recognition and support must also come from us. Gradually we can inform each level. And maybe we get some dev? Why not? We will only know if we try.
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Confederado wrote: »If we have patience and effort ... I think we can have results, too. An important factor is to work with the MOD and not against them. The criticism is always welcome and I know they know it. But the recognition and support must also come from us. Gradually we can inform each level. And maybe we get some dev? Why not? We will only know if we try.
Mods man nothing... no offense.
Their job is to "moderate" the forums. Yes, they have connections with GMs, but that doenst really mean much. -
Confederado wrote: »If we have patience and effort ... I think we can have results, too. An important factor is to work with the MOD and not against them. The criticism is always welcome and I know they know it. But the recognition and support must also come from us. Gradually we can inform each level. And maybe we get some dev? Why not? We will only know if we try.
We might as well try, now we need to get a MOD to read this thread...
Idk, the MOD can tell Saidin, who can inform the higher ups. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Mods man nothing... no offense.
Their job is to "moderate" the forums. Yes, they have connections with GMs, but that doenst really mean much.
Still, it's better than nothing. And also hope that by helping in the moderation of the topics (not only the vocabularies) in this forum, we can achieve the quality you expect here.
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