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Low ping > High ping.
Kudos to all who can even play with high ping, I am impressed that any of them can do well, when they do, I tell them I respect that. I'll never kik because of them lagging because it makes it easier for me anyway, if they want to play with that handicap let them. I'm done trying to explain this to people. If you want to continue complaining fine. Obviously no one listens to reason. -
Infinity114 wrote: »No hate, just discussion.
As we all very well know, Cross Fire NA is obviously for... well, North America. However, since Z8Games has come into play (after Subagames obviously) I've noticed a dramatic increase in foreign players, most of which I assume would be Brazilians. But that's besides the point.
Frankly, I think foreign players have become a nuisance in the game. High ping, language barriers, ignorance and stubbornness. And in terms of hackers, even then it's super rare I see an American/english speaking hacker.
High Ping - Although this may not be the case for just foreigners, the large majority is the case for foreigners. When foreigners decide to play, we have the pleasure of getting killed behind walls. And it sucks even more when there's a foreign player that's actually good, but his ping is like 300. So they have some advantages in there against low ping players.
Language Barriers and Hackers - Language barriers with foreign players is extremely annoying, such as in a case where there is a hacker on the other team, but the whole team is foreign. You try to tell them in English to kick them, you say basic words, they don't do it. Often times, you may be familiar with some words foreign players use, so you try to use their "internet language", and it still doesn't work.
Ignorance and Stubbornness - Me being what is considered to be super low ping, 10. A lot of people are often surprised. But often they are also thinking that I used a hack to get this ping, or that low ping is bad, it's for laggers, etcetera. Ignorance. Pure ignorance. In addition, stubbornness plays a role too because if you try to explain and sometimes they understand, they'll say something along the lines of "No stupid".
That's pretty much all I've wanted to say, remember I'm not hating on anybody. No flaming no racism, in fact I have no grudge against foreign people overall, they just so happen to be (I think) a nuisance in the game. Although I may be wrong for some reasons, I think this is a true tl;dr and I'll discuss it later in this thread if it comes up.
Thoughts?
tl:dr Foreign players lag, they're stubborn and often times ignorant, a lot of the time they hack. What do you think of this?GringoLixo wrote: »Agreed.. but guess what?
z8 doesn't care, and will end up closing this thread and possibly giving you an infraction. On top of that, this will never happen.
Why? That's beyond me. If they want HAPPY customers, they should give us ATLEAST an option to make ping limited rooms.
But yah, +1 to all your statements.Infinity114 wrote: »I figured they wouldn't do anything about it, although they could expand the network and make a Cross Fire Brazil, or make a new Brazil Server on the server list.
Also, they have no reason to give me an infraction, I've done nothing wrong and that's completely unfair. Besides, I sent them a ticket twice about this. They just closed both. They didn't do anything and It was a rage ticket. So I doubt they'll do anything.This right here ^PrimateGuy wrote: »I agree, foreigners are a nuisance.Infinity114 wrote: »That's unfortunate of me, I have to be in the east coast servers for my best ping. UK servers I get like 50-100 ping.
@Maven, 200 ping players do it more often, especially when they're good at aiming.
Reading these posts I see one thing: bigotry. Has no opinion on them. But prejudice. It seems that North America has no aliens. It was created by foreigners and filled by immigrants. You are a mix like any other country in the Americas. They are no different. Speaking against foreigners in NA is as anachronistic as wrong. CFNA is located only in the NA does not mean it was made for the NA. If one day create a server in Brazil, you can throw at it. He has not been done for Brazil!! You should be ashamed of that vision you have. -
Confederado wrote: »Reading these posts I see one thing: bigotry. Has no opinion on them. But prejudice. It seems that North America has no aliens. It was created by foreigners and filled by immigrants. You are a mix like any other country in the Americas. They are no different. Speaking against foreigners in NA is as anachronistic as wrong. CFNA is located only in the NA does not mean it was made for the NA. If one day create a server in Brazil, you can throw at it. He has not been done for Brazil!! You should be ashamed of that vision you have.
Actually...
There has.... Its just the CF that were not supposed to mention or speak about. Using Google helps you know. -
Low ping > High ping.
Kudos to all who can even play with high ping, I am impressed that any of them can do well, when they do, I tell them I respect that. I'll never kik because of them lagging because it makes it easier for me anyway, if they want to play with that handicap let them. I'm done trying to explain this to people. If you want to continue complaining fine. Obviously no one listens to reason.
more ping more pro. -
Infinity114 wrote: »No hate, just discussion.
As we all very well know, Cross Fire NA is obviously for... well, North America. However, since Z8Games has come into play (after Subagames obviously) I've noticed a dramatic increase in foreign players, most of which I assume would be Brazilians. But that's besides the point.
Frankly, I think foreign players have become a nuisance in the game. High ping, language barriers, ignorance and stubbornness. And in terms of hackers, even then it's super rare I see an American/english speaking hacker.
High Ping - Although this may not be the case for just foreigners, the large majority is the case for foreigners. When foreigners decide to play, we have the pleasure of getting killed behind walls. And it sucks even more when there's a foreign player that's actually good, but his ping is like 300. So they have some advantages in there against low ping players.
Language Barriers and Hackers - Language barriers with foreign players is extremely annoying, such as in a case where there is a hacker on the other team, but the whole team is foreign. You try to tell them in English to kick them, you say basic words, they don't do it. Often times, you may be familiar with some words foreign players use, so you try to use their "internet language", and it still doesn't work.
Ignorance and Stubbornness - Me being what is considered to be super low ping, 10. A lot of people are often surprised. But often they are also thinking that I used a hack to get this ping, or that low ping is bad, it's for laggers, etcetera. Ignorance. Pure ignorance. In addition, stubbornness plays a role too because if you try to explain and sometimes they understand, they'll say something along the lines of "No stupid".
That's pretty much all I've wanted to say, remember I'm not hating on anybody. No flaming no racism, in fact I have no grudge against foreign people overall, they just so happen to be (I think) a nuisance in the game. Although I may be wrong for some reasons, I think this is a true tl;dr and I'll discuss it later in this thread if it comes up.
Thoughts?
tl:dr Foreign players lag, they're stubborn and often times ignorant, a lot of the time they hack. What do you think of this?バカ
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more ping more pro.Quote of the day.
Thank you for showing your bias!
I actually thought your input was credible until I read this.
For those that dont know what Ping is... go here:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=142512&highlight=Ping+guide
This is my response to anyone that says some garbage about how high ping is skill or some stupid thing like "OH ITS RACIST"... Plz.... get some education.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=146314 -
Please dont tell me your a Weeaboo... -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Thank you for showing your bias!
I actually thought your input was credible until I read this.
For those that dont know what Ping is... go here:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=142512&highlight=Ping+guide
This is my response to anyone that says some garbage about how high ping is skill or some stupid thing like "OH ITS RACIST"... Plz.... get some education.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=146314
It's harder to win with high ping, therefore it takes more skill and a lot of luck. Get yourself some education before attempting to stomp on people who do know what they're talking about. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Please dont tell me your a Weeaboo...Nah, just thought it was appropriate here.
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Quote of the day.
Thank Saranghae.RawrJafrikan wrote: »Thank you for showing your bias!
I actually thought your input was credible until I read this.
For those that dont know what Ping is... go here:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=142512&highlight=Ping+guide
This is my response to anyone that says some garbage about how high ping is skill or some stupid thing like "OH ITS RACIST"... Plz.... get some education.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=146314
You're dumb. -
Low ping > High ping.
Kudos to all who can even play with high ping, I am impressed that any of them can do well, when they do, I tell them I respect that. I'll never kik because of them lagging because it makes it easier for me anyway, if they want to play with that handicap let them. I'm done trying to explain this to people. If you want to continue complaining fine. Obviously no one listens to reason.
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Most people who complain about high ping, have obviously never actually played with HIGH ping.
The only ones who are annoying, are the 500+ teleporters, but they're a little rarer in SnD. -
I play this game daily and competitively, and the few times I run in to a high pinger, I kick him or move to a different room. Not that hard.
You make it seem like it's so easy to find these rooms and plus not everyone wants to play with pro's. They just want to pub and have fun but when you can go through 6-7 rooms/channels minimum and not see 1 person with under a 150 ping then that's sad(i have had this happen many times in the last month).It's harder to win with high ping, therefore it takes more skill and a lot of luck. Get yourself some education before attempting to stomp on people who do know what they're talking about.
And to whoever says laggers have it harder, when i have those rare moments of lag(constant 200+) i pwn even more than when i have my normal 45-60 ping. There is nothing worse than a lagger that knows how to play because they'll have the advantage everytime. -
我不明白。
lol,its too sh0rt?
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Its the English version of CF not North American. I wouldn't call it international because we don't have servers in any other place that speaks another language.
I do agree with you but they'll just ignore you. It's pretty useless
Also both high ping and low ping have disadvantages. Don't tell me you've never been shot behind cover and killed. Don't tell me they tank us as much or even more than we tank them. I've played with high ping and I barely noticed any difference. I had delay but my shots always, ALWAYS registered. -
'Wizard wrote:;2168241']我不明白。
lol,its too sh0rt?First of all, that's Chinese, not Japanese.
Secondly, since you didn't get it, it means "Baka", which translates to "Idiot".
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I know you wrote in Japanese,but I used Chinese because I'm learning it.First of all, that's Chinese, not Japanese.
Secondly, since you didn't get it, it means "Baka", which translates to "Idiot".
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Secondly,I blame Google Translate.
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KryxisAlpha wrote: »LOL @Lolli's post. (use google translate people)
...I have a feeling that the OP is a white supremicist, or have been influenced somehow...
And I have met NA people with the laggs, don't worry.
A white supremacist? Because I think having foreign people play Cross Fire is bad? When did I ever say anything in terms of race? Let alone insulting a race?
I'm not white btw.
In addition to your statement about NA players with lag, it's not often that you run into them. However when you do, their internet might be slow, or something's wrong with their connection, shared internet, and etc. -
Infinity114 wrote: »A white supremacist? Because I think having foreign people play Cross Fire is bad? When did I ever say anything in terms of race? Let alone insulting a race?
I'm not white btw.
In addition to your statement about NA players with lag, it's not often that you run into them. However when you do, their internet might be slow, or something's wrong with their connection, shared internet, and etc.
White supremacist also includes discrimination about foreigners, you know. In the uk, it's called the BNP party.
Doesn't matter if you're not white, you can still have the same ideals, same views, etc. Technically, CF isn't even the US's game. It's Korean. We are, technically, the invaders as we stole something. Yes, we all know those with laggy pings are far away from here, but you really shouldn't hate on it. It's a game, everyone is free to play, or they have the right to play.
So try and stop making these threads saying that it's down to their fault, mkay? -
KryxisAlpha wrote: »White supremacist also includes discrimination about foreigners, you know. In the uk, it's called the BNP party.
Doesn't matter if you're not white, you can still have the same ideals, same views, etc. Technically, CF isn't even the US's game. It's Korean. We are, technically, the invaders as we stole something. Yes, we all know those with laggy pings are far away from here, but you really shouldn't hate on it. It's a game, everyone is free to play, or they have the right to play.
So try and stop making these threads saying that it's down to their fault, mkay?
You are sadly misinformed if you think this version of Cross Fire was "stolen". Korea expanded its game network here, if this version was stolen, there would be lawsuits everywhere. Also, what should it matter if I "discriminate" against foreigners? I'm only doing so in terms of the game. Not a real life situation. I've already (and clearly) stated that I naturally don't mind foreign people, I just prefer them not playing since they have incredibly high ping. Is it not better to find a game better suited for them? I mean several of your posts (not just yours obviously) included something along the lines of "It's easier for us anyway", why not have them find another shooting game so they can have fun there instead of not having fun here?
Lastly, I wasn't trying to say it was anyone's fault. I didn't blame anyone. This thread is a discussion about foreign people playing a game that's clearly unsuitable for them in terms of connection, as well as some smaller attributes that contribute to the fact that they shouldn't be playing this version (let alone this game) of Cross Fire.
And don't lie, Cross Fire would be at least two times better if everyone were English speaking low ping players. That equals challenge and an actual sense of community. -
Infinity114 wrote: »A white supremacist? Because I think having foreign people play Cross Fire is bad? When did I ever say anything in terms of race? Let alone insulting a race?
I'm not white btw.
In addition to your statement about NA players with lag, it's not often that you run into them. However when you do, their internet might be slow, or something's wrong with their connection, shared internet, and etc.By whose definition are these players foreigners, stupid little kid? Just because this version is called Crossfire NA/UK, doesn't mean it was meant to be limited to North American and United Kingdom players. In fact, the only reason why its called this way, is because the host of this version is limited to these areas for hosting. This version was intended for EVERYONE. If it wasn't, they would have used IP caps already.
So quit your whining and go unistall. There are plenty of games you can go play online that are indeed limited for American players only. Go bother them with you level of stupidity.
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Infinity114 wrote: »You are sadly misinformed if you think this version of Cross Fire was "stolen". Korea expanded its game network here, if this version was stolen, there would be lawsuits everywhere. Also, what should it matter if I "discriminate" against foreigners? I'm only doing so in terms of the game. Not a real life situation. I've already (and clearly) stated that I naturally don't mind foreign people, I just prefer them not playing since they have incredibly high ping. Is it not better to find a game better suited for them? I mean several of your posts (not just yours obviously) included something along the lines of "It's easier for us anyway", why not have them find another shooting game so they can have fun there instead of not having fun here?
Lastly, I wasn't trying to say it was anyone's fault. I didn't blame anyone. This thread is a discussion about foreign people playing a game that's clearly unsuitable for them in terms of connection, as well as some smaller attributes that contribute to the fact that they shouldn't be playing this version (let alone this game) of Cross Fire.
And don't lie, Cross Fire would be at least two times better if everyone were English speaking low ping players. That equals challenge and an actual sense of community.
Apparently they are having fun here or they wouldn't be playing...
Yes it would be great to have no laggers, but it's not going to happen. The laggers have just as much a right to enjoy the game as all of us, and Z8 benefits from having as wide a customer base as possible. The minor "annoyance" they are is hardly a reason to complain and/or do anything to stop them from playing. -
By whose definition are these players foreigners, stupid little kid? Just because this version is called Crossfire NA/UK, doesn't mean it was meant to be limited to North American and United Kingdom players. In fact, the only reason why its called this way, is because the host of this version is limited to these areas for hosting. This version was intended for EVERYONE. If it wasn't, they would have used IP caps already.
So quit your whining and go unistall. There are plenty of games you can go play online that are indeed limited for American players only. Go bother them with you level of stupidity.
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You're ignorant for just assuming I'm some little kid, umad bro. umad. It's like you guys refuse to read and understand. There's nothing wrong with what I'm saying. If you think there is, you must be brainwashed to think even the smallest things is a bad thing.
Also, if this game was intended for everyone, there would be servers for everyone. They'd call it Cross Fire Global/International. Most of the servers are USA. Few of the servers are UK. I don't see Korea servers, I don't see Mexico servers, Britain, Spain, so on and so forth?
'til then, this is Cross Fire NA/UK. Anyone else who plays is foreign regardless of ANYTHING. ANY.THING.
Good bye sir fails a lot. I'm done posting in this thread, so flame all you want. Assume all you want. -
Actually, there were Brazilian players in SubaGames, and SubaGames had plans to keep them there. You guys must realize that Z8Games and SubaGames were once one team, but Z8Games branched away from SubaGames, keeping most of the staff members. Z8Games isn't a "new" company in terms of people working for the company, it's more of just the old people, new name, different company.
Though foreigners do not always cause problems, they can. We just have to cope with it, they deserve the exact same right to play this game than any other player. Seriously, Brazilians are humans too, if you didn't know that, you clearly haven't ever taken a course on how segregation, or being judge and then split apart has had an impact on society. For example, WWII was based on judging others on not who they were, but who they reminded people of. Another prime example is slavery in the United States.
And, this game is Cross Fire International, not Cross Fire North America. CFNA is a term given to this version by the players. -
If they enjoy the game with as much trouble they have kudos to them. It amazes me that low pingers are the ones complaining.
They don't have the proper licensing to make a server in brazil...
Your edit didn't change anything, and I've played for years myself, don't talk to me as if I'm just here rambling and never play. I don't spray, and often use m700. No trouble whatsoever reging, and dieing behind walls happens to just as much against another 50 ping as it does against a 200 ping. The reg in this game sucks, but laggers got it worse.
I understand what you are trying to say, high pingers don't have an advantage. They get the same problems that we get (getting shot behind walls, no reg) but they don't complain about it. Why? Cause the language barrier. What do they do instead? They scream that you ha.ck and send vote kicks and spam yelling F11 for 10K zp!!
Yea. That's much better. -
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