Foreigners
No hate, just discussion.
As we all very well know, Cross Fire NA is obviously for... well, North America. However, since Z8Games has come into play (after Subagames obviously) I've noticed a dramatic increase in foreign players, most of which I assume would be Brazilians. But that's besides the point.
Frankly, I think foreign players have become a nuisance in the game. High ping, language barriers, ignorance and stubbornness. And in terms of hackers, even then it's super rare I see an American/english speaking hacker.
High Ping - Although this may not be the case for just foreigners, the large majority is the case for foreigners. When foreigners decide to play, we have the pleasure of getting killed behind walls. And it sucks even more when there's a foreign player that's actually good, but his ping is like 300. So they have some advantages in there against low ping players.
Language Barriers and Hackers - Language barriers with foreign players is extremely annoying, such as in a case where there is a hacker on the other team, but the whole team is foreign. You try to tell them in English to kick them, you say basic words, they don't do it. Often times, you may be familiar with some words foreign players use, so you try to use their "internet language", and it still doesn't work.
Ignorance and Stubbornness - Me being what is considered to be super low ping, 10. A lot of people are often surprised. But often they are also thinking that I used a hack to get this ping, or that low ping is bad, it's for laggers, etcetera. Ignorance. Pure ignorance. In addition, stubbornness plays a role too because if you try to explain and sometimes they understand, they'll say something along the lines of "No stupid".
That's pretty much all I've wanted to say, remember I'm not hating on anybody. No flaming no racism, in fact I have no grudge against foreign people overall, they just so happen to be (I think) a nuisance in the game. Although I may be wrong for some reasons, I think this is a true tl;dr and I'll discuss it later in this thread if it comes up.
Thoughts?
tl:dr Foreign players lag, they're stubborn and often times ignorant, a lot of the time they hack. What do you think of this?
As we all very well know, Cross Fire NA is obviously for... well, North America. However, since Z8Games has come into play (after Subagames obviously) I've noticed a dramatic increase in foreign players, most of which I assume would be Brazilians. But that's besides the point.
Frankly, I think foreign players have become a nuisance in the game. High ping, language barriers, ignorance and stubbornness. And in terms of hackers, even then it's super rare I see an American/english speaking hacker.
High Ping - Although this may not be the case for just foreigners, the large majority is the case for foreigners. When foreigners decide to play, we have the pleasure of getting killed behind walls. And it sucks even more when there's a foreign player that's actually good, but his ping is like 300. So they have some advantages in there against low ping players.
Language Barriers and Hackers - Language barriers with foreign players is extremely annoying, such as in a case where there is a hacker on the other team, but the whole team is foreign. You try to tell them in English to kick them, you say basic words, they don't do it. Often times, you may be familiar with some words foreign players use, so you try to use their "internet language", and it still doesn't work.
Ignorance and Stubbornness - Me being what is considered to be super low ping, 10. A lot of people are often surprised. But often they are also thinking that I used a hack to get this ping, or that low ping is bad, it's for laggers, etcetera. Ignorance. Pure ignorance. In addition, stubbornness plays a role too because if you try to explain and sometimes they understand, they'll say something along the lines of "No stupid".
That's pretty much all I've wanted to say, remember I'm not hating on anybody. No flaming no racism, in fact I have no grudge against foreign people overall, they just so happen to be (I think) a nuisance in the game. Although I may be wrong for some reasons, I think this is a true tl;dr and I'll discuss it later in this thread if it comes up.
Thoughts?
tl:dr Foreign players lag, they're stubborn and often times ignorant, a lot of the time they hack. What do you think of this?
Comments
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Agreed.. but guess what?
z8 doesn't care, and will end up closing this thread and possibly giving you an infraction. On top of that, this will never happen.
Why? That's beyond me. If they want HAPPY customers, they should give us ATLEAST an option to make ping limited rooms.
But yah, +1 to all your statements. -
GringoLixo wrote: »Agreed.. but guess what?
z8 doesn't care, and will end up closing this thread and possibly giving you an infraction. On top of that, this will never happen.
Why? That's beyond me. If they want HAPPY customers, they should give us ATLEAST an option to make ping limited rooms.
But yah, +1 to all your statements.
I figured they wouldn't do anything about it, although they could expand the network and make a Cross Fire Brazil, or make a new Brazil Server on the server list.
Also, they have no reason to give me an infraction, I've done nothing wrong and that's completely unfair. Besides, I sent them a ticket twice about this. They just closed both. They didn't do anything and It was a rage ticket. So I doubt they'll do anything. -
I think you got something wrong there.. This version of CF is the international version of CF and this is CF NA/UK, NOT only CF NA.
I'm a foreign player and I have around 40 ping in UK servers and around 150 ping in NA servers(, because I just don't live in NA).
Because laggers can't kill with 300 ping they hack, but they seem to fail due their high ping...
The foreign players don't speak english, because their level of english is at a level of primary school, because they didn't had any schooling or they're learning english. -
I think you got something wrong there.. This version of CF is the international version of CF and this is CF NA/UK, NOT only CF NA.
I'm a foreign player and I have around 40 ping in UK servers and around 150 ping in NA servers(, because I just don't live in NA).
Because laggers can't kill with 300 ping they hack, but they seem to fail due their high ping...
The foreign players don't speak english, because their level of english is at a level of primary school, because they didn't had any schooling or they're learning english.
The UK was out the question, there are already servers for the UK so it shouldn't matter. What matters is the foreign players everywhere int he NA servers. Also, your ping is irrelevant to me because of the fact that the UK is out of the question.
Also, people who have 150-300 ping generally have an advantage of players due to their lag AND ping. Do you even know what ping is? Say for an example you're playing a prison match and you go behind a little brick wall, so you're behind it right? But there's a delay for the high pings because their connection (obviously) is farther away, so even for a split second, they could see you as NOT behind the wall and kill you.
Also, you didn't have to tell me that foreign players are bad at English. I was simply stating reasons as to why having foreign players is a bad thing. -
Ignorance and Stubbornness ya that is you!
This is no Cross fire NA any more this is Cross fire International, and it really become internatiol after the UK servers come than more people started playing it from different countries Ya there is a UK server believe it or not
People from Europa play on those servers to this game is basically played by every peep around the world!
The problem ya ping whatever
a simple ping cap option for room creations can be a good solution but the devs are to lazy to make it...
So ya till than kick options
Language Barriers ya everybody has there own langauge but most people can speak english to if the don't understand you than press esc the room if you feel insulted that the don't speak English lolz....
hackers yayaya there are hackers from America,Brazil,Turkey and much more countries.
It's just the ignorant people think(Ya most of you Americans not your fault allot of Americans play this game.)
if 1 BR hacks than the all are hacking -
The TR's are the BR's in the UK servers. I've experienced the "Behind the wall shot" many times and I really don't like it. They should make a pingcapped server..Infinity114 wrote: »The UK was out the question, there are already servers for the UK so it shouldn't matter. What matters is the foreign players everywhere int he NA servers. Also, your ping is irrelevant to me because of the fact that the UK is out of the question.
Also, people who have 150-300 ping generally have an advantage of players due to their lag AND ping. Do you even know what ping is? Say for an example you're playing a prison match and you go behind a little brick wall, so you're behind it right? But there's a delay for the high pings because their connection (obviously) is farther away, so even for a split second, they could see you as NOT behind the wall and kill you.
Also, you didn't have to tell me that foreign players are bad at English. I was simply stating reasons as to why having foreign players is a bad thing.
Why would you put UK outside of this CF Version? -
SamuraiMoMo wrote: »Ignorance and Stubbornness ya that is you!
This is no Cross fire NA any more this is Cross fire International, and it really become internatiol after the UK servers come than more people started playing it from different countries Ya there is a UK server believe it or not
People from Europa play on those servers to this game is basically played by every peep around the world!
The problem ya ping whatever
a simple ping cap option for room creations can be a good solution but the devs are to lazy to make it...
So ya till than kick options
Language Barriers ya everybody has there own langauge but most people can speak english to if the don't understand you than press esc the room if you feel insulted that the don't speak English lolz....
hackers yayaya there are hackers from America,Brazil,Turkey and much more countries.
It's just the ignorant people think(Ya most of you Americans not your fault allot of Americans play this game.)
if 1 BR hacks than the all are hacking
Your arguments are flawed in so many ways, I'm not even going to bother. But know this; it may be international, but the connection is good only for NA/UK for a reason. Anybody else? They're considered game invaders. -
So you consider me as a game invader?Infinity114 wrote: »Your arguments are flawed in so many ways, I'm not even going to bother. But know this; it may be international, but the connection is good only for NA/UK for a reason. Anybody else? They're considered game invaders. -
Having high ping is far harder to play with, you may get an occasional lag shot from them. But for the most part almost every shot they fire doesn't reg if you keep moving. Saying they have an advantage is ridicules. Yes they have delay, which means you'll always reg first, and if you're moving most the time the server won't reg there hit's because the player isn't really where they're shooting. I've played with 200+, it's far more difficult, with my 50 ping I have zero trouble getting my shots to reg.
EVERY other complaint you have are not just foreigners. Every country has players that are stubborn, ignorant, and/or hack. The only reason foreigners are more, is becuase there literally is more of them... America is one part, then you have for example, australia, and brazil. Two to one, of course they're more of them, and those aren't the only other two... Why on earth would you think, 1 > 1 + 1.... -
Infinity114 wrote: »Your arguments are flawed in so many ways, I'm not even going to bother. But know this; it may be international, but the connection is good only for NA/UK for a reason. Anybody else? They're considered game invaders.
He my friend I'm from the Netherlands and my ping on UK servers is 16-20
I get a better ping than most UK players them self lolz!
So many flaws ya, your perfect right your a perfect American it shows
The Ignorants the stubborn hmmm just like what you said
I bet you stand at the American borders and when you see a mexican crossing over the border you shoot them down!
Stop fitting the stereotype please... it's ugly to look at. -
This has been discussed countless times, daily usually.
There is nothing to be done about the laggers, or at least nothing the Dev's of this game are willing to do for us.
So there is no point in making another discussion thread about it so people can b1tch about the laggers.
No one likes it, and no ones going to do anything about it.
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Having high ping is far harder to play with, you may get an occasional lag shot from them. But for the most part almost every shot they fire doesn't reg if you keep moving. Saying they have an advantage is ridicules. Yes they have delay, which means you'll always reg first, and if you're moving most the time the server won't reg there hit's because the player isn't really where they're shooting. I've played with 200+, it's far more difficult, with my 50 ping I have zero trouble getting my shots to reg.
And Thus, the M12s was born. It doesn't matter where the hell you aim, you will hit them no matter what -.- -
Your thread makes me sad. I cannot agree with some paragraphs of it. The first, high ping doesn't give any advantage, but only disadvantage. Persons with low ping can faster act than persons with bigger ping. So persons with low ping have advantage, they have some extra time in reserve (By the way, this time is about 100-200 ms, but time of reaction is about 200-300 ms). So persons with low ping always shoot in the first turn. The second, about language barriers. For example, I'm foreign player either, but I communicate with my team during a game (locating of enemies, movements, problems about kick someone and other information). That team didn't kick their hack because they wanted to win, that is all. Hack in any team is chance to easy win. Language barriers aren't cause of theirs actions.
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Sure it is. That's why from Romania to UK I have 45 ping at maximum.Infinity114 wrote: »Your arguments are flawed in so many ways, I'm not even going to bother. But know this; it may be international, but the connection is good only for NA/UK for a reason. Anybody else? They're considered game invaders. -
GringoLixo wrote: »Agreed.. but guess what?
z8 doesn't care, and will end up closing this thread and possibly giving you an infraction. On top of that, this will never happen.
Why? That's beyond me. If they want HAPPY customers, they should give us ATLEAST an option to make ping limited rooms.
But yah, +1 to all your statements.
This right here ^ -
because its not our decision which we've stated countless times.GringoLixo wrote: »Agreed.. but guess what?
z8 doesn't care, and will end up closing this thread and possibly giving you an infraction. On top of that, this will never happen.
Why? That's beyond me. If they want HAPPY customers, they should give us ATLEAST an option to make ping limited rooms.
But yah, +1 to all your statements.
some people take a while to grasp the simplest of sentences i suppose. -
this game isn't called Cross Fire NA and as such not for an NA audience only.
the same company has always been running the game, subagames is z8games, you're clearly mistaken and uninformed.
Regardless of whether or not Subagames IS Z8games, ever since it has become Z8Games, more foreign players have been pouring in. That is the point. Who Subagames actually is, is besides the point. But I am curious as to why though. Since Subagames became Z8games, why did so many foreign players start playing? Did they begin to advertise internationally, pure coincidence, what?
Even if it isn't exclusively for NA or UK, and it is indeed international, Z8Games better get their butts in gear and actually make it international.
I'm not sure if you even play, have you seen the amounts of high ping players? It's a problem and an annoyance.
As for anyone else calling me ignorant and that one stupid kid who called me a perfect American, I'm Canadian. And I've already clearly stated that I could give less of a **** about foreigns in real life, I clearly stated that it's just the amount of foreign players in Cross Fire. -
Infinity114 wrote: »Regardless of whether or not Subagames IS Z8games, ever since it has done so more foreign players have been pouring in. That is the point. Who Subagames actually is, is besides the point.
They pour in as the game grows in popularity and general awareness. It has little to nothing to do with the portal running it. -
L0LarabFACE wrote: »Low ping = easier to kill high pingers.
When you kill them, on their screen, they are behind walls too.
It's just the fact : You get killed behind walls by them, they get killed behind walls by you.
Not only that, it happens far more often, and is incredibly more difficult for them to reg on the low ping then it is for the low ping to reg on them. So anyone that complains about it obviously hasn't played with lag and really needs a reality check. -
L0LarabFACE wrote: »Low ping = easier to kill high pingers.
When you kill them, on their screen, they are behind walls too.
It's just the fact : You get killed behind walls by them, they get killed behind walls by you.
Doesn't high ping tell them something? They shouldn't be here. For a more enjoyable experience they should find another game to play, at least until the whole Cross Fire network decides to do something about foreign players. I mean Brazilians are a pretty large contribution to the profit/revenue here at Cross Fire. They can create a Brazilian server, just like they did for UK players.
@Maven, read my edit. In addition to your quote, I've played for a long while now, and experienced what I experienced. They have an advantage, maybe mostly for sniping. I don't spray too often, so these might be two different stories. -
Infinity114 wrote: »Regardless of whether or not Subagames IS Z8games, ever since it has become Z8Games, more foreign players have been pouring in. That is the point. Who Subagames actually is, is besides the point. But I am curious as to why though. Since Subagames became Z8games, why did so many foreign players start playing? Did they begin to advertise internationally, pure coincidence, what?
Even if it isn't exclusively for NA or UK, and it is indeed international, Z8Games better get their butts in gear and actually make it international.
I'm not sure if you even play, have you seen the amounts of high ping players? It's a problem and an annoyance.
As for anyone else calling me ignorant and that one stupid kid who called me a perfect American, I'm Canadian. And I've already clearly stated that I could give less of a **** about foreigns in real life, I clearly stated that it's just the amount of foreign players in Cross Fire.
Because this game has grown exponentially, and the switch to the new platform name didn't change that.
NA and UK is international, which is why we have servers in those region.
That they're english speaking nations doesn't matter much, its still international.
I play this game daily and competitively, and the few times I run in to a high pinger, I kick him or move to a different room. Not that hard. -
I play this game daily and competitively, and the few times I run in to a high pinger, I kick him or move to a different room. Not that hard.
Where in this game do you find a low ping player room? And kicking doesn't work when the rest of the players are high ping players. In addition, moving to a different room is a tough decision, I want to be able to keep my profile statistics looking as good as possible. -
UK 4 7 of course, asian rooms.Infinity114 wrote: »Where in this game do you find a low ping player room? And kicking doesn't work when the rest of the players are high ping players. In addition, moving to a different room is a tough decision, I want to be able to keep my profile statistics looking as good as possible. -
Infinity114 wrote: »Doesn't high ping tell them something? They shouldn't be here. For a more enjoyable experience they should find another game to play, at least until the whole Cross Fire network decides to do something about foreign players. I mean Brazilians are a pretty large contribution to the profit/revenue here at Cross Fire. They can create a Brazilian server, just like they did for UK players.
@Maven, read my edit. In addition to your quote, I've played for a long while now, and experienced what I experienced. They have an advantage, maybe mostly for sniping. I don't spray too often, so these might be two different stories.
If they enjoy the game with as much trouble they have kudos to them. It amazes me that low pingers are the ones complaining.
They don't have the proper licensing to make a server in brazil...
Your edit didn't change anything, and I've played for years myself, don't talk to me as if I'm just here rambling and never play. I don't spray, and often use m700. No trouble whatsoever reging, and dieing behind walls happens to just as much against another 50 ping as it does against a 200 ping. The reg in this game sucks, but laggers got it worse. -
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