so i join a server with m12s.

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  • D_Phoenix wrote: »
    Ummm no, there is no challenge in using a gun that has no recoil...it's just boring, just aim the crosshair at your opponent and don't move your mouse and they're dead. If I want satifaction from using guns I look at the M9 or Glock-18:p

    glock 18 is way to weak on this game xP
    still it is a challange to aim with an m12s from long distance against an ak user ;)
  • Saritje wrote: »
    glock 18 is way to weak on this game xP
    still it is a challange to aim with an m12s from long distance against an ak user ;)

    All you have to do is aim at the head with Glock-18 and they're dead, no exceptions. It's more of a headshot gun rather than a sprayer like Desert Eagle varients due to the huge amount of ammo + weakest power in CF.
  • D_Phoenix wrote: »
    All you have to do is aim at the head with Glock-18 and they're dead, no exceptions. It's more of a headshot gun rather than a sprayer like Desert Eagle varients due to the huge amount of ammo + weakest power in CF.


    i uses a deagle-scope because it matches the collor of my m12s ok now i feel nub xD
  • Saritje wrote: »
    ... and if you know these bullets do 9-12 damage long distance.

    In which part of the body?

    Do you know how many bullets you need to headshot someone long range?
    (lets say on TD monaco).
    I have tested some guns there. Aug and TAR made only 98 damage at long range... (ak, m4) are 100 damage long range. (on head).
  • jujuchon wrote: »
    In which part of the body?

    Do you know how many bullets you need to headshot someone long range?
    (lets say on TD monaco).
    I have tested some guns there. Aug and TAR made only 98 damage at long range... (ak, m4) are 100 damage long range. (on head).

    i know that yes black widow range double doors black list spawn its 2-3 it realy belongs how close they ar. or how far they ar. and 50% of your shots don' teven hit because of the ROF

    and the 9-12 is in the chest.

    to be honnest with you i never play monaco. i think its an snipe map. and i dislike sniping
  • Saritje wrote: »
    i know i will get flamed.
    but i don't care. in my fact the way i play with an m12s is harder then a ak47 ...
    i single shot with m12s max 3 shots. no mather what range it is.

    so i made a tripple kill with 10 bullets from black widow spawn to gr spawn.

    then they call me noob sprayer then you ask them to watch how i play with m12s.
    then they call me cheater xD.

    and i never spray with any gun but heres the deal.
    if you know how to shoot with any single gun in this game you will never have any recoil so i think all this m12s QQ'ing is Boul....


    so point of this topic did you ever played with m12s to aim not spray and pray thats noob.
    try to aim with that gun watch how the gun will fails you
    So overpowered? i don't think so afcourse you can go spray and pray and have no bullets in 30 seconds those people make this gun look noobish.

    now start flaming
    Well I use my M4A1-Custom, AWM-Camo and D.E.-camo. M12 doesn´t impresses me so much. Personaly I don´t like to play with it. I use it rarely just to get some Scout badge. I tried to compare and I get pretty much better results with my M4 than with m12. I agree m12 is good just for a very close distance combat. I really don´t care which kind of a gun my opponents use. Most of opponents need to push really hard to make me get a negative KDR at the end of match.
    In my country we use to say: "There is no more or less dangerous weapons, but only more or less dangerous shooters";)
    3 kills multiplied by "max 3 shots" = 9

    You used 10. You don't even play by your own rules. You're an idiot.
    Is it really necessary to insult the girl which didn´t tell anything ruthless to you?
  • Well I use my M4A1-Custom, AWM-Camo and D.E.-camo. M12 doesn´t impresses me so much. Personaly I don´t like to play with it. I use it rarely just to get some Scout badge. I tried to compare and I get pretty much better results with my M4 than with m12. I agree m12 is good just for a very close distance combat. I really don´t care which kind of a gun my opponents use. Most of opponents need to push really hard to make me get a negative KDR at the end of match.
    In my country we use to say: "There is no more or less dangerous weapons, but only more or less dangerous shooters";)

    Is it really necessary to insult the girl which didn´t tell anything ruthless to you?


    ar you a adult? you sound like one ^_^.
    i also sayed alot of the bullets get lagged away because of the rof. but he did not read that xD
  • Saritje wrote: »
    you guys ar morrons.
    because 1 big person says its overpowered the gun is overpowered eh.

    the gun sucks. 50% of the time the bullets get lagged away.
    and all guns have an overpowered weapon in someway

    riffle ak 47 / SL
    SMG its the m12s (when spraying) ....
    Shotgun Dual Despies ....

    do i need to go on you guys ar prefetic in whole the way the only thing you guys ar good in in QQ'ing on forums because you guys suck in game.

    the no recoil on the m12s is not a big help if you shoot to the chest you will not make a hs.
    so you have the aim at a the lil head with m12s to make headshots i have 28k kills now 19.700 headshots.

    now if i shoot with ak just burst on the chest the recoil will help me to make a hs so ak47 is easier then a m12s to me but m12s is more fun to play with ...

    did i say nuf now?.

    m12s is a noob gun in the hands of a noob.
    go any s&d map fire 3 bullets at a time then come here and talk

    First of all, my congratulations for your english.

    Second thing, "1 big person" is a little different from an entire league staff and from the most part of good and competitive players.

    Third, i can make even a ScrubL a "pro" weapon, if i shoot only 1 bullet every 10 seconds aiming for head. This argument is completely senseless.

    "Ak-47 is easier than M12s" is one of the biggest bull****s i've ever heard on these forums, and these forums aren't really full of intelligent people.

    Clearly you're just playing this game for the "fun" of it, even if doing this, you're annoying competitive or even decent players. But please, if you're doing this, don't try to come on forums to post bull****s like this.
  • Sejanoz wrote: »
    First of all, my congratulations for your english.

    Second thing, "1 big person" is a little different from an entire league staff and from the most part of good and competitive players.

    Third, i can make even a ScrubL a "pro" weapon, if i shoot only 1 bullet every 10 seconds aiming for head. This argument is completely senseless.

    "Ak-47 is easier than M12s" is one of the biggest bull****s i've ever heard on these forums, and these forums aren't really full of intelligent people.

    Clearly you're just playing this game for the "fun" of it, even if doing this, you're annoying competitive or even decent players. But please, if you're doing this, don't try to come on forums to post bull****s like this.


    if you think the ak 47 is harder then a m12s then itsy our problem dear.
    i'm talking about my opinion for me ak47 is easier then a m12s.
    if you aim at the cheat with the ak47 .... the recoil boost will help you getting headshots all the way but most of the time i just make Golden headies with ak its accurate like hell.
    and i don't think its a hard to use gun just click leave mouse click leave mouse clck leave mouse and you will end up positive.
    the way i play with it that is ;)
  • Saritje wrote: »
    ar you a adult? you sound like one ^_^.
    i also sayed alot of the bullets get lagged away because of the rof. but he did not read that xD
    The answer is Yes:D
    Btw, don´t bother yourself about this argue. Just play and enjoy the game. Who cares about the rest.;)
  • I got a temporary M12s for several weeks in crates and used it (at least to break it once) and I did play with it like you said : by bursting it, almost never spraying it. The gun NEVER failed me.

    You know why ? Because it's overpowered for a GP SubMachineGun.
    You just have to aim for the head, shoot three bullets, and you have your headshot, no matter the distance.
    We're talking about a very fast firing SMG with a large bullet capacity, not some kind of rifle with a slow RoF.

    I can one-shot or burst the RPK and get consistent headshots, same with any AK, but I have a much harder time doing it with GP SMG (MP5, P90, MP7, UZI, etc.) and for a good reason : they are not meant for that.
    It should be the same with the M12s but it isn't, that's why I think it's OP.
    Indeed if you burst with any gun you are a portal aimbot
    No gun has recoil if you sue it like this
    But most people with M12s try to spray long range
    So...
    Only when you face a skilled player with M12s you have an issue
  • I would never change my M4, even for a 1000 M12 :D
  • I would never change my M4, even for a 1000 M12 :D

    Why not, then resell 999 of them and you're done :o
  • Saritje wrote: »
    i know i will get flamed.
    but i don't care. in my fact the way i play with an m12s is harder then a ak47 ...
    i single shot with m12s max 3 shots. no mather what range it is.

    so i made a tripple kill with 10 bullets from black widow spawn to gr spawn.

    then they call me noob sprayer then you ask them to watch how i play with m12s.
    then they call me cheater xD.

    and i never spray with any gun but heres the deal.
    if you know how to shoot with any single gun in this game you will never have any recoil so i think all this m12s QQ'ing is Boul....


    so point of this topic did you ever played with m12s to aim not spray and pray thats noob.
    try to aim with that gun watch how the gun will fails you
    So overpowered? i don't think so afcourse you can go spray and pray and have no bullets in 30 seconds those people make this gun look noobish.

    now start flaming
    It doesn't takes any skill to hold the button with M12s. In order to being able to land 3 shots with an AK, you will have to use a lot more than just putting the crosshair on the target, pressing mouse button and waiting 'till it dies.
  • I would never change my M4, even for a 1000 M12 :D

    But you do realise that if you changed your M4 for 1000 M12s's, you can sell the 1000 M12s for even more GP, buy an M4 and what are you left with? Huge amounts of disposable GP;)
  • What's the point of all of this? Not like you gonna change someones opinion by posting something that you believe is true (which, frankly, isn't correct at all). All you gonna get is the opposite effect. You might as well go on some islamic forums and state how pork delicious is.
  • D_Phoenix wrote: »
    But you do realise that if you changed your M4 for 1000 M12s's, you can sell the 1000 M12s for even more GP, buy an M4 and what are you left with? Huge amounts of disposable GP;)
    Karma +1.

    M12s (Message 1s 2 short)
  • Sejanoz wrote: »
    Why not, then resell 999 of them and you're done :o
    D_Phoenix wrote: »
    But you do realise that if you changed your M4 for 1000 M12s's, you can sell the 1000 M12s for even more GP, buy an M4 and what are you left with? Huge amounts of disposable GP;)
    Guys you really can´t get the point of my words:D
    Btw, I already have all weapons that I need. So I don´t need any additional weapons to buy (maybe only golden weapons, but I don´t like the way they look):cool:
  • Saritje wrote: »
    blackmarket guns don't lose any accuration unless there tottal broken (i mean non perm guns) owned.
    you guys should go outside ...

    And ? Even if it's true that broken weapon doesn't lose accuracy and/or power, that doesn't change the fact that I did what you said : went in an SnD, scored 8/3 with 6 headshots all while bursting/one shotting the M12s.
    Given the fact that I'm an average player, that should be enough to prove how good the M12s is. You definately don't need to be a pro to score with it.
    Saritje wrote: »
    and another thing lol you calling me a nub cake ... i'm watching your guns? k2 barely recoil xm-8 nice bang machine shotguns lmao ....

    you wanna see my guns ? i have 3 m12s ak 47-s and baretta ar70 and more i don't need says enough dont it

    Never called you a nub cake, just a moron.
    K2 barely any recoil ? Yes of course. /sarcasm
    XM8 nice bang machine ? I never use it that way but thank you.
    Dual Desperados ? Bought them for the fun and because I don't have a shotgun.
    Besides, what if I own XM8 and K2 ? It makes me a noob ? M12s is fine but K2 is noob ? You have to tell me what you smoke, I want some.

    Oh, and didn't YOU say AK were overpowered ? Then you own a noob M12s, an "OP" AK 47 (the Silver if I understood you, which is better than the regular) and the AR-70 which is as good, if not better, than the K2. Seems I don't need to call you a nubcake, you did it yourself.
    Saritje wrote: »
    another proof forumers ar dumb like *****

    Because I don't know every single thing about a game I'm dumb (you're the one that should go outside btw, instead of gathering useless CF knowledge) ? Nice way of judging a person.
    Let me do it too : when I see your broken english I get dizzy and want to puke, and before you say this is not your native language, let me say it isn't mine either.
    You must be dumb as ***** (whatever that meant in your post) not to be able to write english correctly (accuration ? WDF is that), I was writing better than that in High school not to mention the gazillion online english dictionnary you could use.
    I could also mention how rude you are. It's hard to believe (and all the more disappointing) that you're a girl. You don't need all those insults to get your point. In fact, they probably work against you.
    Saritje wrote: »
    its how you play with the m12s dear.
    we all know its over powered and easy to use when you run back wards zigzagging and spray and pray ...

    but you can play with this gun the other way to aim to you ennemy against ak and m4a1 users ... and if you know these bullets do 9-12 damage long distance.

    The OPness of a weapon doesn't change depending on how you use it.
    When a weapon shoot its first 7-10 bullets right on the target at an insane RoF no matter the distance, even with 9-12 damage, make some maths : it's death most of the time.
    I'm not even talking about aiming with it. If you shoot at your opponent's head, you don't need those 7-10 bullets.

    M12 is overpowered, no matter what you may say, BUT that doesn't mean we should QQ about it (on that part I agree with you). It's an annoying weapon, especially since so many people use it but its wearer can still be killed.
  • And ? Even if it's true that broken weapon doesn't lose accuracy and/or power, that doesn't change the fact that I did what you said : went in an SnD, scored 8/3 with 6 headshots all while bursting/one shotting the M12s.
    Given the fact that I'm an average player, that should be enough to prove how good the M12s is. You definately don't need to be a pro to score with it.



    Never called you a nub cake, just a moron.
    K2 barely any recoil ? Yes of course. /sarcasm
    XM8 nice bang machine ? I never use it that way but thank you.
    Dual Desperados ? Bought them for the fun and because I don't have a shotgun.
    Besides, what if I own XM8 and K2 ? It makes me a noob ? M12s is fine but K2 is noob ? You have to tell me what you smoke, I want some.

    Oh, and didn't YOU say AK were overpowered ? Then you own a noob M12s, an "OP" AK 47 (the Silver if I understood you, which is better than the regular) and the AR-70 which is as good, if not better, than the K2. Seems I don't need to call you a nubcake, you did it yourself.



    Because I don't know every single thing about a game I'm dumb (you're the one that should go outside btw, instead of gathering useless CF knowledge) ? Nice way of judging a person.
    Let me do it too : when I see your broken english I get dizzy and want to puke, and before you say this is not your native language, let me say it isn't mine either.
    You must be dumb as ***** (whatever that meant in your post) not to be able to write english correctly (accuration ? WDF is that), I was writing better than that in High school not to mention the gazillion online english dictionnary you could use.
    I could also mention how rude you are. It's hard to believe (and all the more disappointing) that you're a girl. You don't need all those insults to get your point. In fact, they probably work against you.



    The OPness of a weapon doesn't change depending on how you use it.
    When a weapon shoot its first 7-10 bullets right on the target at an insane RoF no matter the distance, even with 9-12 damage, make some maths : it's death most of the time.
    I'm not even talking about aiming with it. If you shoot at your opponent's head, you don't need those 7-10 bullets.

    M12 is overpowered, no matter what you may say, BUT that doesn't mean we should QQ about it (on that part I agree with you). It's an annoying weapon, especially since so many people use it but its wearer can still be killed.
    This guy has win in his posts. Karma +1.
  • krtica wrote: »
    What's the point of all of this? Not like you gonna change someones opinion by posting something that you believe is true (which, frankly, isn't correct at all). All you gonna get is the opposite effect. You might as well go on some islamic forums and state how pork delicious is.
    Some people got this thread so serious, and some not. Personaly, I find this thread as pretty funny :D
    "You might as well go on some islamic forums and state how pork delicious is.":D:D:D

    Btw Karma +1
  • Saritje wrote: »
    i know i will get flamed.
    but i don't care. in my fact the way i play with an m12s is harder then a ak47 ...
    i single shot with m12s max 3 shots. no mather what range it is.

    so i made a tripple kill with 10 bullets from black widow spawn to gr spawn.

    then they call me noob sprayer then you ask them to watch how i play with m12s.
    then they call me cheater xD.

    and i never spray with any gun but heres the deal.
    if you know how to shoot with any single gun in this game you will never have any recoil so i think all this m12s QQ'ing is Boul....


    so point of this topic did you ever played with m12s to aim not spray and pray thats noob.
    try to aim with that gun watch how the gun will fails you
    So overpowered? i don't think so afcourse you can go spray and pray and have no bullets in 30 seconds those people make this gun look noobish.

    now start flaming

    1. I'm not gonna try and flame, just stating some simple truths.. I had the m12 before and I think it's an unfair gun. It has the biggest clip for a gp gun, and it's accurate at any range. I took out a whole team with just 1 clip of a m12.
    The fact that you could kill someone with 6 shots with an m12 is rediculous for a SMG. an SMG should take about 10-15 bullets to the chest for 1 kill, not 3. Believe me I know.. I've used a k1a for a long time.. Never in my life, have I ever gotten a single 100 hp kill with less than 10 bullets with the exception of a headshot with that SMG. Same goes for the mp5 and any other SMG. I don't go on a full out spray, I burst fire and aim my spray.
    The gun absolutely is noobish because it's not only accurate at any range, has an extended clip, overpowered for a SMG but also because it has no recoil. "no recoil is the same for 3 bullets from any gun". errrr not with an m16..not with a ak47, not with a beretta, etc.. GRANTED that the first 3 shots are easy to hit the person, however the gun should jolt or not hit the same exact place 5 times in a row unless you single shoot the gun. With the m12 you could aim and spray at the same spot and you'll have bullets overlapping each other. You can't do that with any other gun.. Heck, even the scar light would have a few stray bullets.

    The m12 QQ isn't boul. If a new player can use it and get 40 kills in one game, that should tell you that the gun is too easy to use and that it's stats are a bit unfair.

    Yes I did use the m12 to aim. It is wayy too easy to use. I could have 1 hp and kill a whole team with a m12 8/10 times and I'm not that good of a player...


    The fact that you actually killed across the map with a m12 should tell you off the bat, that the gun is wayyy too accurate for what should be a close to mid range gun.
  • Granted he is a good player, but it proves how OP the weapon is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5i1TxzPdHs

    Go to 24 seconds.
  • Bah...
    I wish they correct m12 cause i got one and i never use it bcause its a hammer, in hands of noobs or pros.
    why i got one Scar or M4 if m12 does all the job at close or long range??

    One thing its assured, when you use another weapon you wont got what it takes because of using too much m12.
    But use it... We have guys well more anoying than m12 users... Hakers!!
    And seems to me that Z8 wont give a cr*p about it.
    ZP for CF... NEVER MORE!!
  • every gun is good on pro players hands. but those weapon dude is good on noob hands tho. no skills 4 it needed. click left mouse button don't release it.
  • if you have to use any wogl-b gun/item in pubs in order to perform you're garbage

    No one said he had to use it. and WOGL is just ego boosted players.
  • People who use Scar light / m12s = worst noob gun.

    They're banned from most of the league, there's a reason to that.
  • man... just the NOISE that weapon makes makes me sick... i once used it, i awm'ed some dude in downtown SD while 1 vs 6 and took his m12, i won with using 2 clips, it didnt feel good :(
  • There is a reason the BR's switched over from the SL to the M12. And its not because the M12 looks better (and anyone who things so is a joke).

    Nuff said.