HSR ribbon
What's going on with this thread?
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?321948-Honorable-Soldier-Ribbon-Restoration
80% voted for ribbon restoration while only selfish 20% voted against
also the reasons of the people who voted in favor were much more convincing than the other side
seems like the sane majority voted in favor...so GM's what are you waiting for with the ribbon restoration?
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?321948-Honorable-Soldier-Ribbon-Restoration
80% voted for ribbon restoration while only selfish 20% voted against
also the reasons of the people who voted in favor were much more convincing than the other side
seems like the sane majority voted in favor...so GM's what are you waiting for with the ribbon restoration?
Comments
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GeneralZezo2 wrote: »Some kids here against the idea ... comment in HSR threads only .
So, anyone who doesn't want hackers get their HSR back is considered kid by you?
Pathetic...
On topic: The poll means nothing, it doesn't represent the whole CF community, only a fraction of it using the forums and probably multiple accounts used by the same people to boost both sides in their favor.
Also, I'm pretty sure in the HSR thread there are many solid reasons as why the HSR should not given back to hackers.
Stop begging for it. You violated the ToU. You got what you deserved. Be happy you can still play from your account. If I was in charge I would perm ban anyone abusing the game, not just remove a ribbon. End of story. -
Selfish? Pyrex, this you again?So, anyone who doesn't want hackers get their HSR back is considered kid by you?
Pathetic...
On topic: The poll means nothing, it doesn't represent the whole CF community, only a fraction of it using the forums and probably multiple accounts used by the same people to boost both sides in their favor.
Also, I'm pretty sure in the HSR thread there are many solid reasons as why the HSR should not given back to hackers.
Stop begging for it. You violated the ToU. You got what you deserved. Be happy you can still play from your account. If I was in charge I would perm ban anyone abusing the game, not just remove a ribbon. End of story.
Can you please link to all of your alts?
also please post a screen of your in-game friend list
I wanna see that each of them have the hsr ribbon,if I find any of the accounts of yours or your friends without the ribbon it means you hacked before or you support hacking by playing with former hackers
see how stupid this sounds?it just a mirror to what your kids are portray
also people without the ribbon aren't necessarily used hacks ,there are tons of reasons (scamming/sharing accounts/insulting/harassment/charge back)and it none of your business why every individual account was banned.
just as the opposite is true as well-people with the ribbon aren't necessarily "legit" ,there are tons of people who use vpn for change their region to get better offers,or use loopholes for get cheaper zp(illegally),or fill in fake data on surveys..and still have their ribbon
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Selfish? Pyrex, this you again?
It is not Pyrex, I ask that you both please stop targeting posts against each other (I'm only saying this because it's not the first time you guys have made these accusations towards each other). I mean, whatever happened between you guys, hash it out in a PM or something.
As mentioned in the original thread, the poll was strictly for feedback purposes. Final decision for what to or not to do is in the hands of the staff. I understand the poll has been running for a long time, but when the GMs are ready to announce something, they will. So your continued patience is very appreciated.What's going on with this thread?
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?321948-Honorable-Soldier-Ribbon-Restoration
80% voted for ribbon restoration while only selfish 20% voted against
also the reasons of the people who voted in favor were much more convincing than the other side
seems like the sane majority voted in favor...so GM's what are you waiting for with the ribbon restoration?
Lastly, I don't even know why I need to keep saying this, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions. It's not being selfish, it's called being a unique individual. Let's respect the fact that everyone on this forum is from different places, have different backgrounds, and have their own thoughts. Pretty please? :P -
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Big words coming from someone whose english skills and post quality compare to a 12 year old.GeneralZezo2 wrote: »Some kids here against the idea
Like said before in numerous threads, there is really no reason to give everyone their HSR back.
The main use of this ribbon is to show who hacked and who didnt. Simple as that. Might as wel remove the ribbon for everyone then...this has more to do with not making stupid decisions than being "greedy" -
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also people without the ribbon aren't necessarily used hacks ,there are tons of reasons (scamming/sharing accounts/insulting/harassment/charge back)and it none of your business why every individual account was banned.
now stay out of my thread
That's what almost everyone who disagreed about this topic mentioned, that if people lost their HSR from a bug or any other way except for cheating they should have the opportunity to get their ribbon restored. Telling those who disagree to stay out of your thread defeats the purpose of creating one, if you're not open to other people's opinions except for those who agree.
Who knows maybe in the future you'll get what you asked for. -
HACKERS must be banned not lose a ribbon!
Yeah except when that ribbons sole purpose is to be lost if you are busted for cheating...
Boiii where did all these random new people come from who cant seem to grasp the simple concept of a ribbon like this? Probably a result of that samaritan ribbon. -
Big words coming from someone whose english skills and post quality compare to a 12 year old.
Like said before in numerous threads, there is really no reason to give everyone their HSR back.
The main use of this ribbon is to show who hacked and who didnt. Simple as that. Might as wel remove the ribbon for everyone then...this has more to do with not making stupid decisions than being "greedy"
if his english skills bad what about your skills in arabic,spanish,french so don't say any thing about languages plz
keep this information for your self
you know @Zezo every where you will meet some rag people so you can ignore them- IGN Ezio
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It doesn't really matter why you lost your HSR. I mean Z8 is pretty lenient with bans, censor bypassing, first offences, even if you hacked once you won't get a perm-ban. But we aren't talking about how its unfortunate that Z8 doesn't just mech ban every person who cheats, we're talking about the HSR. If you lost it, other than the unlucky FEW who got an Xtrap error, then you did something to break the ToS. Doesn't matter if you shared your account and someone hacked on it, doesn't matter if you glitched too many times in a pub and got banned, its your fault and only losing the ribbon instead of the entire account is gracious. So show respect to the people you ruined the game for while you were cheating and show gratitude to the GM's for not outright banning you.
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master_mann wrote: »Hacking, even if it's a first offence, has been a perm ban for a few years now.
If it is a Support Ban, then it'd indeed be a first offence permanent ban, if you however were caught by the Anti-Cheat, then it's temporary, from what I heard.
That's however from quite some time ago, so that may or may not have changed. -
Honestly only those who lost their HSR due to some hacktool detected errors or where temporarily ban by some weird reason should have it back. The rest of them don't need or deserve them. Even if they were clean for years why should they be rewarded for that? Next time you will think twice before hacking on a online game because you have no skill to play. Its just like life, if you commit a crime people aren't just going to "erase" your record because you are "clean for some years", you have to deal with the repercussions and stop crying for something you don't even deserve in the first place. I hope that they don't restore that ribbon to those who don't deserve it.
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TheShadowRo wrote: »That was the proposal, to restore the hsr only to players who loose-it for other reasons then hacking ( as banned after a clear hack report) i don't understand why some players consider will be restored ( eventually ) to caught hackers, lol, that will never happend
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P.S. Carefully read hsr restore topic again
Exactly! Grumpy said it as well[GM]Grumpy wrote: »if a user was proven 100% to hack, they will not get it back. -
I read one of them and some were asking for it to be restored after a few years of not hacking. Plus I meant only those who had the unfortunate xtrap error, if its glitching, swearing/insulting and other things that the player actually did they should no have the HSR back.
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Yeah this would be fine with most players, the only problem is sorting out the people who actually got Xtrap errors and those who are just claiming to have gotten an error because they got cheating. Personally I did legitimately get an Xtrap error and then lost my HSR, but after a lengthy ticket I had it restored.TheShadowRo wrote: »That was the proposal, to restore the hsr only to players who loose-it for other reasons then hacking ( as banned after a clear hack report) i don't understand why some players consider will be restored ( eventually ) to caught hackers, lol, that will never happend ....
P.S. Carefully read hsr restore topic again
Yes all of the player made forum posts are for people trying to get their HSR back after ACTUALLY cheating, but then being "clean" for a certain period of time. I agree that censor bypassing should have a cool off period of some kind and then finally an HSR restoration if you've discontinued being a jerk in-game because it is fairly minor.ScarKnight7 wrote: »I read one of them and some were asking for it to be restored after a few years of not hacking. Plus I meant only those who had the unfortunate xtrap error, if its glitching, swearing/insulting and other things that the player actually did they should no have the HSR back. -
I am tired of explaining the same thing again n again.
HSR is a unique kind of ribbon which must not be restored even if you commit suicide for it to prove that you have changed, that's it.
Hacking in this game is equal to the murder in real life. Reasons like being insane/unstable/mad/psycho/kid/looser when you used the hack does not change the fact that you HACKED and the absence of HSR from your profile page is an evidence of it.
Lastly, abbreviation of HSR is "Honorable soldier ribbon" so the use of "HSR ribbon" as a title of this thread proves that you must have to start using your brain ASAP. -
HSR is kind of like high school. When many don't think to start studying until it's too late.
It seems that is the case in many ban situations. Many don't even try to change until it's to little to late or don't expect CF to act.
because you don't appreciate just how much you could lose until it's finally gone.
I'd support this idea of "ribbon restore" and give it my +1
people are also have problem with reading the OP post ,not every one without the ribbon is "hacker",I don't have the ribbon and never used hacks.1 ban for spamming posts for ribbon back at 2010 ,1 for staff impersonation and 1 for "users harassment" (probably Danah's report..no wonder she has no friends,I bet she also lost the ribbon at some point and "paid" the Gm's for restore it)
I guess I will not get my ribbon back since I have 20 banned forum accounts but could be nice to see other people happy for get a 2nd chance
Bottom line is-there is no need to be too harsh,lose the ribbon can happen to every one,it just like wheelchair,the distance between normal life and it is just a one wrong fall from the stairs -
Did you even bother to read some of the replies....adigagever92 wrote: »
I'd support this idea of "ribbon restore" and give it my +1
people are also have problem with reading the OP post ,not every one without the ribbon is "hacker"It doesn't really matter why you lost your HSR. I mean Z8 is pretty lenient with bans, censor bypassing, first offences, even if you hacked once you won't get a perm-ban. But we aren't talking about how its unfortunate that Z8 doesn't just mech ban every person who cheats, we're talking about the HSR. If you lost it, other than the unlucky FEW who got an Xtrap error, then you did something to break the ToS. Doesn't matter if you shared your account and someone hacked on it, doesn't matter if you glitched too many times in a pub and got banned, its your fault and only losing the ribbon instead of the entire account is gracious. So show respect to the people you ruined the game for while you were cheating and show gratitude to the GM's for not outright banning you.TheShadowRo wrote: »That was the proposal, to restore the hsr only to players who loose-it for other reasons then hacking ( as banned after a clear hack report) i don't understand why some players consider will be restored ( eventually ) to caught hackers, lol, that will never happend ....
P.S. Carefully read hsr restore topic againScarKnight7 wrote: »I read one of them and some were asking for it to be restored after a few years of not hacking. Plus I meant only those who had the unfortunate xtrap error, if its glitching, swearing/insulting and other things that the player actually did they should no have the HSR back.TheShadowRo wrote: »1. For hacking - even will pass 100 clean years will never be restored - that's a fact and will not be reconsidered.
2. For glitching - is a grey area because this not involve using a hack tools - just exploit a game bug, anyway i presume the abuse glitcher who was glitching every round will be treated same as a hacker (we will see eventually)
3. For bad behavior - i think is possible to be restored, depend on how bad and how often was using bad words... usually to get a permanent ban only of insults means the players get at least 2 or 3 temporary ban before for insults ... so is not clear if deserve an restore
4. For techical errors, d/c from game that leads to a permanent ban - this was the main reason for hrs restoration topic - therefore this case will be most like restored (sometime in the future IF the HRS restoration will became a fact)
If it was caused by any sort of error others have agreed for the restoration of their hsr.[GM]Grumpy wrote: »
The other thing is for hacking itself (which will be very strict cause its tricky), assume someone has an account with a note from 2011 saying that he was blocked 1 day because of using hack tools. Now assume this person never used hack tools again, actively playing with no issues whatsoever. This can be a case where an appeal can also work. Note that I said a note that says he/she was hacking, but didn't say that he was hacking, because if a user was proven 100% to hack, they will not get it back. -
Well, i believe the GM's made it quite clear that everyone who lost their HSR ribbon could have a chance of getting it restored "EXCEPT FOR CHEATERS"[GM]Grumpy wrote: »if a user was proven 100% to hack, they will not get it back.
Like come on guys, you can't expect the GM's to restore your HSR ribbons just because you haven't hacked for a while.
Not to mention that no one even knows whether or not you actually haven't hacked for said "claimed periods".
It's like a killer asking to get out of prison because he hasn't killed people in a while.
Now i know that my words will not carry much weight and even have a tinge of Hypocrisy because i myself own the HSR ribbon and never lost it, but let me ask you this;
If you get your HSR ribbon back even after cheating, then what do those that NEVER cheated before get?
^ Just answer this question with a solid and reasonable sentence and i wouldn't mind if you got it back.
You must know that anywhere in the gaming community, hackers/cheaters are despised and looked down upon by almost everyone else,
and that in some games you don't even get a second chance,
you just get instantly permanently banned with no chance of getting your account back ever again.
If i were you, then i would be thankfull that i can still play on my account even after having broken a severe rule and stop letting everyone know that you hacked before,
This should be common sense right? -
oSasuke*** wrote: »Did you even bother to read some of the replies....
If it was caused by any sort of error others have agreed for the restoration of their hsr.
Do you mind next time you quote someone to refer to the whole post and not only "see what you want to see"?
and I was talking about the posts on Pyrex's thread and posts like the post that Olpers guy made on this thread.("don't give ribbon back even if commit suicide" lmao,this guy is screw on his head)
and on personal note?if the people here are so scared to break the rules in some video game then I don't wanna know what will happen when it'll come to real life rules(in modern concepts it's called "nerds")
the ribbon means nothing,there are some of the best players in the whole game without the ribbon
I have one guy in my friend list Ahmadhunter (best wave player in whole game,with above 7000 wins on wave)and he don't have the ribbon
also he's one of the nicest people I know (unlike the people <with the ribbon> on this thread that only being **** jerks to everyone)
you missed the point on my last post-what I meant is when you'll lose your ribbon for whatever minor reason don't come here to prove everyone you are wasn't "hacking" and crying everyhere to get it back because other people (people like thje people on this thread you) will not listen and won't give a F -
adigagever92 wrote: »Do you mind next time you quote someone to refer to the whole post and not only "see what you want to see"?
and I was talking about the posts on Pyrex's thread and posts like the post that Olpers guy made on this thread.("don't give ribbon back even if commit suicide" lmao,this guy is screw on his head)
and on personal note?if the people here are so scared to break the rules in some video game then I don't wanna know what will happen when it'll come to real life rules(in modern concepts it's called "nerds")
the ribbon means nothing,there are some of the best players in the whole game without the ribbon
I have one guy in my friend list Ahmadhunter (best wave player in whole game,with above 7000 wins on wave)and he don't have the ribbon
also he's one of the nicest people I know (unlike the people <with the ribbon> on this thread that only being **** jerks to everyone)
you missed the point on my last post-what I meant is when you'll lose your ribbon for whatever minor reason don't come here to prove everyone you are wasn't "hacking" and crying everyhere to get it back because other people (people like thje people on this thread you) will not listen and won't give a F
I can agree the ribbon means nothing but just to tell people you haven't gotten banned due to cheating. If you don't have it then it doesn't matter and if you do have then great you've been clean so I don't really get the point of giving it back to players if it means nothing. Like you said your friend doesn't have the HSR but he is nice, that's all great and all but he did something to get his HSR taken away from him and that's final doesn't mean he has to be a big meanie now he can be nice but it truely doesn't change the fact that he did some kind of form of cheating. I think people on the thread with their HSR are annoyed since the people that want their HSR back have CHEATED like you deserve not to have the HSR anymore by not following the simple rules so it's quite annoying that people are crying for it back when you could easily make an account that be a good boy OR OR just remember that the HSR means nothing and stop asking for it back and just be clean.
I truely don't see why people are here complaining for their HSR back since it's defeat the whole purpose of it. At the end of the day if there was any way to make everyone happy they could just take away the HSR from everyone so everyone is in an even playing field but once again.. it means nothing it's just to prove you haven't gotten banned via cheated and if you have then you don't deserve to have it. -
adigagever92 wrote: »Do you mind next time you quote someone to refer to the whole post and not only "see what you want to see"?
and I was talking about the posts on Pyrex's thread and posts like the post that Olpers guy made on this thread.("don't give ribbon back even if commit suicide" lmao,this guy is screw on his head)
and on personal note?if the people here are so scared to break the rules in some video game then I don't wanna know what will happen when it'll come to real life rules(in modern concepts it's called "nerds")
the ribbon means nothing,there are some of the best players in the whole game without the ribbon
I have one guy in my friend list Ahmadhunter (best wave player in whole game,with above 7000 wins on wave)and he don't have the ribbon
also he's one of the nicest people I know (unlike the people <with the ribbon> on this thread that only being **** jerks to everyone)
you missed the point on my last post-what I meant is when you'll lose your ribbon for whatever minor reason don't come here to prove everyone you are wasn't "hacking" and crying everyhere to get it back because other people (people like thje people on this thread you) will not listen and won't give a F
Too many braindeads, you mad even when people agree to some points but not the other... all you wanna see is +1 across the board. You trying to justify people that have that ribbon being jerks by throwing insults... nice, what does that make you?
And let's take your high school scenario if you were taking a test and get caught cheating, one of two things will happen either you get a zero on the spot or your teacher might be nice and let you take another different test(second opportunity), that's what some of them got here and some weren't as lucky.
Why would I quote everything not like the stuff you wrote below were going to help you, you throwing shade.
And I even told OP good luck maybe it will change in the future so idk why you mad.
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