Summer VIP Pre-Sale - June 27 - July 4
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well there's currently a bonus when buying through Razer. Up to like 15% bonus ZP. Which Ends after Sunday, I believe.
However, for all other pay options...it's LIKELY that we'll see one Monday-Wednesday of next week as is the normal scheduling of those sales at Update time. However, last update they changed it up...so it's possible they continue that trend or go back to normal... It seems our CF GMs don't usually make the Bonus sales announcement on the forums until the day of...but if you pay attention to Lost Saga's announcements they usually announce theirs a few days ahead of schedule and the ZP sales have always been the same time. (probably due to the fact that you're buying currency through the website for Z8 account which doesn't really identify the difference between CF and Lost Saga, is my guess anyways.)
True.BrandyIncubo wrote: »I heard on the game as here..that the preorder was made random.. I don't think so. The discount is applied based on how many vips we have..is like a value scale...for example
- my alt account (0 vip) for the char and m4 the discount is 15% ... for both vips on the normal price (20%) . So on the previous % add +5% as "bonus"
- Glitta account (2 vips) for the char and m4 the discount is 20% ...for both vips on the normal price (25%)..always +5% bonus
- my main account (7 vips) for the char and m4 the discount is 25%...for both (30%)..blabla always + 5% bonus
-Techno account ( 14 vips) for the char and m4 the discount is 28%..for both (33%)...always +5% bonus
etc...
Hope you guys understand,,I'm not good to explain,xD
Think is some people that don't have any vip have better offer than someone who has a good amount of vip, so I'm not too sure if vips is related since I got no vips but getting higher offer as someone else who also doesn't have any vip. It's confusing. -
so a thought crossed my mind....if the pricing is based on account...and if it's pulling from the database like how our player profiles pull from the database....then could it potentially be counting any temporary VIPs into its calculations? could potentially explain why people who don't own any VIPs have the same discount or less even than some people who DO have VIPs. Just a thought...
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so a thought crossed my mind....if the pricing is based on account...and if it's pulling from the database like how our player profiles pull from the database....then could it potentially be counting any temporary VIPs into its calculations? could potentially explain why people who don't own any VIPs have the same discount or less even than some people who DO have VIPs. Just a thought...
If that's the case I don't have any perm vip but I do got a temp awm VIP. I'm praying thats not the case, i'd love to see what would happen if I didn't have this temp awm vip. -
I don't understand what you guys are talking now..I created a new account for check the price..and is the same like my alt account with 0 vip (164k total price)...Anyway I can agree with all of you..for who has many vips this discount is a bit expensive
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What I'm posting now is going to refute and falsify each and every speculation that anyone thought of!!
Testing my brother's cow account which absolutely has nothing at all (NO permanent guns at all, 4 ribbons, created in 2016).
The offer is 143,500!!
Account's link:
http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/22905514 -
MidoIsLegend wrote: »What I'm posting now is going to refute and falsify each and every speculation that anyone thought of!!
Testing my brother's cow account which absolutely has nothing at all (NO permanent guns at all, 4 ribbons, created in 2016).
The offer is 143,500!!
Account's link:
http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/22905514
not QUITE everything...that account has (or rather HAD) a temporary AK-47 Fury. I believe it's highly plausible that the data pull the 'Game' or rather Pre-order Calculator uses from your account pulls from the database the same way our player profiles do...and thus Temporaries are likely being counted as well. However...on that account I only see 1 temporary even...so that's a fairly large discount for a single one and like you said...nothing other there that one would think is of any interest...hrmmmm -
not QUITE everything...that account has (or rather HAD) a temporary AK-47 Fury. I believe it's highly plausible that the data pull the 'Game' or rather Pre-order Calculator uses from your account pulls from the database the same way our player profiles do...and thus Temporaries are likely being counted as well. However...on that account I only see 1 temporary even...so that's a fairly large discount for a single one and like you said...nothing other there that one would think is of any interest...hrmmmm
Yet temporaries aren't proven to be worthy since many people there with these temporaries + other permanent VIPs got worse offers!
My friend's account as an example ( http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/10024385 ) has 10 VIP's and many other ZP guns and his offer is 147,600!!
I now believe it's just random or the so called 'formula' is too dumb no matter how much they deny that
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MidoIsLegend wrote: »What I'm posting now is going to refute and falsify each and every speculation that anyone thought of!!
Testing my brother's cow account which absolutely has nothing at all (NO permanent guns at all, 4 ribbons, created in 2016).
The offer is 143,500!!
Account's link:
http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/22905514
Ok, now I'm mad. I want that offer! How come a new player from 2016 with a clear acc, no ribbons or zp guns in inventory gets to pay LESS than me for the new VIP bundle? I have 54 ribbons, I've been playing this game since 2012 and even have my HSR intact. How come he gets 30% discount for the 2 new VIPs and I only get 20%?! This is outrageous... -
(sry for re-posting the same idea.. but I couldn't help it
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Just remembered an account that I created earlier this year and haven't even set a char for it yet! and the result was the same..
http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/24522799
***killsss wrote: »one of my alts was created this year and its offer 143500
what if it depend on where are you from?
That's the only speculation left that I may give a chance to be proven ^ -
I think I've found what these prices are based on.
What they did is they made a table of all players' accounts in Excel or something. Then they made a recurring sequence of offers from 164K to 123K. And then they applied this recurring sequence to the list.
So the first person on the list got the offer 164 even if he has multiple VIPs. Second one got 157. Third got 154 and so on.
This theory is based on [GM]Grumpy's comment that, "There is no 'formula'."
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I think I've found what these prices are based on.
What they did is they made a table of all players' accounts in Excel or something. Then they made a recurring sequence of offers from 164K to 123K. And then they applied this recurring sequence to the list.
/thread
Lmao
Honestly, this seems like the only explanation so far that even fits lol -
not QUITE everything...that account has (or rather HAD) a temporary AK-47 Fury. I believe it's highly plausible that the data pull the 'Game' or rather Pre-order Calculator uses from your account pulls from the database the same way our player profiles do...and thus Temporaries are likely being counted as well. However...on that account I only see 1 temporary even...so that's a fairly large discount for a single one and like you said...nothing other there that one would think is of any interest...hrmmmm
False if it did counted my price wouldn't be 164K since i manage to nab zp refills every month so my Ak fury both temp and perm didn't count in as well as the rpk/kukri/and the awm -
MidoIsLegend wrote: »What I'm posting now is going to refute and falsify each and every speculation that anyone thought of!!
Testing my brother's cow account which absolutely has nothing at all (NO permanent guns at all, 4 ribbons, created in 2016).
The offer is 143,500!!
Account's link:
http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/22905514
This has become an all out war on the forums. I just spent a good hour comparing my account to that alt and I have owned every temp it had and more perm items from the black market. So why is my offer still at the minimum discount of 164K?
Not to mention the "system " claim isn't so perfect since IT CLEARLY calculated wrong and it is making more and more of the loyal CF community more mad. I have never seen Nelson? mad before and he has is blood boiling right now. As of right now i wouldn't recommend buying the bundle since it is just a scam in my opinion.... There goes my chance of my 1st vip char and m4 right there, and the ones that know it is my B-Day coming up please save that money for something else, it won't make me happy if you just contributed to their plans -
This has become an all out war on the forums. I just spent a good hour comparing my account to that alt and I have owned every temp it had and more perm items from the black market. So why is my offer still at the minimum discount of 164K?
Not to mention the "system " claim isn't so perfect since IT CLEARLY calculated wrong and it is making more and more of the loyal CF community more mad. I have never seen Nelson? mad before and he has is blood boiling right now. As of right now i wouldn't recommend buying the bundle since it is just a scam in my opinion.... There goes my chance of my 1st vip char and m4 right there, and the ones that know it is my B-Day coming up please save that money for something else, it won't make me happy if you just contributed to their plans
Yup was going to be my first always, trying to do surveys to make the difference. Just really wish I know how how it's being determined. -
@Grumpy If you felt like I singled you out, I'm sorry but you are still my Favorite GM above GM effects, but If you can look into the system and get the CF team to fix your new formula then maybe on the last day many people will come scrambling in to empty their wallets
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This has become an all out war on the forums. I just spent a good hour comparing my account to that alt and I have owned every temp it had and more perm items from the black market. So why is my offer still at the minimum discount of 164K?
Not to mention the "system " claim isn't so perfect since IT CLEARLY calculated wrong and it is making more and more of the loyal CF community more mad. I have never seen Nelson? mad before and he has is blood boiling right now. As of right now i wouldn't recommend buying the bundle since it is just a scam in my opinion.... There goes my chance of my 1st vip char and m4 right there, and the ones that know it is my B-Day coming up please save that money for something else, it won't make me happy if you just contributed to their plans
shouldn't have wasted your time
. If you checked the next alt account I posted... an account that even has no basic char (sas/omoh/swat) getting 143,500 zp offer!
Nothing is making any sense!
http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/24522799 -
idk. no matter how its determined people who want it will get it. either way wether you get it for 164k pr 127k zp if you wait till after the sale its going to be 205k so might as well. the difference in 35k zp for the sale price is what, 45 crates that you could spin and not win anything lol. besides you get a free perm melee and char item. that makes up for way more than 35k. ive played since 2010 and if someone new is getting a better price, whats the difference in that and an alt character winning a bm gun from a free crate i spent 200k zp on to not win anything. cash grab or not i doubt there will be answers, like all purchases on cf just spend at your own risk. as for me i got it for 147k, and im excited for the release! i hope all else whove preordered are just as happy lol.
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idk. no matter how its determined people who want it will get it. either way wether you get it for 164k pr 127k zp if you wait till after the sale its going to be 205k so might as well. the difference in 35k zp for the sale price is what, 45 crates that you could spin and not win anything lol. besides you get a free perm melee and char item. that makes up for way more than 35k. ive played since 2010 and if someone new is getting a better price, whats the difference in that and an alt character winning a bm gun from a free crate i spent 200k zp on to not win anything. cash grab or not i doubt there will be answers, like all purchases on cf just spend at your own risk. as for me i got it for 147k, and im excited for the release! i hope all else whove preordered are just as happy lol.
The thing is some people do not have enough zp to preorder both when it's at 164k but would have when 127k and some don't want the m4a1 when it's still at that high of a price (and probably wont buy it afterwards either)
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