March of the Ghosts: Tournament [March 1st - March 31st]
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Hi Kanadian,
I normally am a silent person and keep to myself. However, this time I had to raise my concerns. I am representing team clutch so wanted to point some issues to you for which my team-mates have already highlighted.
Firstly, the post-clearly stated that the team members have to be 2 years hack free. Initially we registered with 6 members out of which 2 members were without Honorable ribbon (Powerful and Royan) and hence we edited our post to the current 6 members; 5 with honorable ribbon and 1 without (flexaa).
Note: We had doubts for the 2 year hack issue so we had messaged one of your MOD's for clarification on this matter. However no clear cut response was provided to us. It was simply stated that if you are 2 years hack free then it is fine. We checked with Flexaa and she confirmed that she has not used a hack for 5 years or so.
I have read your comments where you stated that having a honorable ribbon does not mean you are hack free as you can bypass the x-trap. May I ask you sincerely, how are we supposed to know that a member with a honorable ribbon has hacked in the past?. This is beyond our control to even monitor honestly. Quoting Mod Vu; stating that we registered late & that it is not your duty to select the players and that it is our duty to check with the members if they are hack free or not. Our team was one of the early registered teams and we edited our posts within the deadline stated in the form. Note: there are teams which are selected in the the tournament with late registration as well (including edits) which were permitted by you'll (This directly contradicts your statements of "registering late- too many teams, 1st come 1st serve basis. Simply shows that you all don't stick to your words).
Secondly, do note each player in the GM community are not neighbors, relatives, brothers, sisters. We met online and we came to know each other through a lot of game play. So stating that we as players should know that each person is hack free (with or without honorable ribbon) is ridiculous. And please do note, we included flexaa since she was hack free. That was the only reason we even edited our team since we did not want to be Dq'ed with our old team.
Thirdly, I would like to give you some suggestions:
It was stated in forum:
1) If a team registers and does not show up, they will not be allowed to participate in future tournaments. This is ridiculous to even state. You did not provide a date, a time for the tournament till the second last day and you expect everyone to be fine with this? And in the end, the full tournament to be played in one day? Do you not give any consideration to time-zones?
2) DQ's/Hack users etc. In the future please do not stick to saying as long as you are 2 years hack free. This raises a lot of questions to each team-member which as you said (a honorable or non-honorable member can hack). PS: your game MOD's were not even cooperative when we genuinely asked to look into 2 members since we din't know if they were hack free or not. Stick to a standard rule which each member can follow without asking doubts to each MOD. Example: members who have honorable ribbon can only participate.
3) Even if you plan on DQ'ing a team, inform in advance not one day 1-2 days before the tournament. You should be a bit considerate on this sincerely since many members trained extensively just for the tournament. Highlighting in the forum that the full team will be Dq'd because of 1 member should be added as well. Overall your forum post was vague and support was below par on this matter.
4) Giving inaccurate information in the forum that we have to record and then stating 2 days before that we don't need to is again miscommunication from your end. Do you have any idea how many GM players did not participate in the tournament because of the FPS issue?. Kindly, stick to your words in the future.
Overall, I guess it is like talking to a wall with you guys on this matter. Since you all made it evident that you all do as you'll please. Kindly have a view of my suggestions if you have the time to spare, speaking on behalf of a bunch of players on this regard.
I wish the remaining GM teams the best of luck. Peace.
Regards,
Void -
Adrianre66 wrote: »Hi Kanadian,
I normally am a silent person and keep to myself. However, this time I had to raise my concerns. I am representing team clutch so wanted to point some issues to you for which my team-mates have already highlighted.
Firstly, the post-clearly stated that the team members have to be 2 years hack free. Initially we registered with 6 members out of which 2 members were without Honorable ribbon (Powerful and Royan) and hence we edited our post to the current 6 members; 5 with honorable ribbon and 1 without (flexaa).
Note: We had doubts for the 2 year hack issue so we had messaged one of your MOD's for clarification on this matter. However no clear cut response was provided to us. It was simply stated that if you are 2 years hack free then it is fine. We checked with Flexaa and she confirmed that she has not used a hack for 5 years or so.
I have read your comments where you stated that having a honorable ribbon does not mean you are hack free as you can bypass the x-trap. May I ask you sincerely, how are we supposed to know that a member with a honorable ribbon has hacked in the past?. This is beyond our control to even monitor honestly. Quoting Mod Vu; stating that we registered late & that it is not your duty to select the players and that it is our duty to check with the members if they are hack free or not. Our team was one of the early registered teams and we edited our posts within the deadline stated in the form. Note: there are teams which are selected in the the tournament with late registration as well (including edits) which were permitted by you'll (This directly contradicts your statements of "registering late- too many teams, 1st come 1st serve basis. Simply shows that you all don't stick to your words).
Secondly, do note each player in the GM community are not neighbors, relatives, brothers, sisters. We met online and we came to know each other through a lot of game play. So stating that we as players should know that each person is hack free (with or without honorable ribbon) is ridiculous. And please do note, we included flexaa since she was hack free. That was the only reason we even edited our team since we did not want to be Dq'ed with our old team.
Thirdly, I would like to give you some suggestions:
It was stated in forum:
1) If a team registers and does not show up, they will not be allowed to participate in future tournaments. This is ridiculous to even state. You did not provide a date, a time for the tournament till the second last day and you expect everyone to be fine with this? And in the end, the full tournament to be played in one day? Do you not give any consideration to time-zones?
2) DQ's/Hack users etc. In the future please do not stick to saying as long as you are 2 years hack free. This raises a lot of questions to each team-member which as you said (a honorable or non-honorable member can hack). PS: your game MOD's were not even cooperative when we genuinely asked to look into 2 members since we din't know if they were hack free or not. Stick to a standard rule which each member can follow without asking doubts to each MOD. Example: members who have honorable ribbon can only participate.
3) Even if you plan on DQ'ing a team, inform in advance not one day 1-2 days before the tournament. You should be a bit considerate on this sincerely since many members trained extensively just for the tournament. Highlighting in the forum that the full team will be Dq'd because of 1 member should be added as well. Overall your forum post was vague and support was below par on this matter.
4) Giving inaccurate information in the forum that we have to record and then stating 2 days before that we don't need to is again miscommunication from your end. Do you have any idea how many GM players did not participate in the tournament because of the FPS issue?. Kindly, stick to your words in the future.
Overall, I guess it is like talking to a wall with you guys on this matter. Since you all made it evident that you all do as you'll please. Kindly have a view of my suggestions if you have the time to spare, speaking on behalf of a bunch of players on this regard.
I wish the remaining GM teams the best of luck. Peace.
Regards,
Void
Bruh this isnt even fair NONE OF OUR TEAMMATES HAVE HACKED WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS -
Our mods do not have access to the hack information.Adrianre66 wrote: »Hi Kanadian,
Note: We had doubts for the 2 year hack issue so we had messaged one of your MOD's for clarification on this matter.
By choosing players you normally play with. Its a gamble, sure, to pick players for your team, but pick people you know well to be safe.Adrianre66 wrote: »May I ask you sincerely, how are we supposed to know that a member with a honorable ribbon has hacked in the past?.
For the record, your team was rechecked after the edit, and there was still an issue.Adrianre66 wrote: »Our team was one of the early registered teams and we edited our posts within the deadline stated in the form. Note: there are teams which are selected in the the tournament with late registration as well (including edits) which were permitted by you'll (This directly contradicts your statements of "registering late- too many teams, 1st come 1st serve basis. Simply shows that you all don't stick to your words).
To my understanding this is no different than any other tournament rules. If you disagree, do not play in the tournament.Adrianre66 wrote: »1) If a team registers and does not show up, they will not be allowed to participate in future tournaments. This is ridiculous to even state. You did not provide a date, a time for the tournament till the second last day and you expect everyone to be fine with this? And in the end, the full tournament to be played in one day? Do you not give any consideration to time-zones?Adrianre66 wrote: »2) DQ's/Hack users etc. In the future please do not stick to saying as long as you are 2 years hack free. This raises a lot of questions to each team-member which as you said (a honorable or non-honorable member can hack). PS: your game MOD's were not even cooperative when we genuinely asked to look into 2 members since we din't know if they were hack free or not. Stick to a standard rule which each member can follow without asking doubts to each MOD. Example: members who have honorable ribbon can only participate.
Our mods do not have access to the hack history. We -do- use a standard rule. Don't hack, and you'll be fine.
The team is DQ'd as are all players involved in the team for this tournament. When that is announced is irrelevant as long as it is before the tournament. In future tournaments, we will absolutely add that 1 member can DQ a whole team.Adrianre66 wrote: »3) Even if you plan on DQ'ing a team, inform in advance not one day 1-2 days before the tournament. You should be a bit considerate on this sincerely since many members trained extensively just for the tournament. Highlighting in the forum that the full team will be Dq'd because of 1 member should be added as well. Overall your forum post was vague and support was below par on this matter.
This was not inaccurate information. This was us changing a rule prior to the start of the tournament to make it easier on those players who brought up the issue of recording.Adrianre66 wrote: »4) Giving inaccurate information in the forum that we have to record and then stating 2 days before that we don't need to is again miscommunication from your end. Do you have any idea how many GM players did not participate in the tournament because of the FPS issue?. Kindly, stick to your words in the future.
Its not so much 'as we please' as it is 'as the team has come to a consensus on'. However, we will take all of this into consideration next time a tournament comes around.Adrianre66 wrote: »Since you all made it evident that you all do as you'll please. Kindly have a view of my suggestions if you have the time to spare, speaking on behalf of a bunch of players on this regard.
I would also like to add that you are perhaps the SINGLE person that outlined their concerns properly without losing your composure, and for exactly that reason I read the entire thing. Thank you for voicing your opinion in a way that actually allows the team to look over it and better our process for the next time around. -
[GM]Kanadian wrote: »I would also like to add that you are perhaps the SINGLE person that outlined their concerns properly without losing your composure, and for exactly that reason I read the entire thing. Thank you for voicing your opinion in a way that actually allows the team to look over it and better our process for the next time around.
Ouch! now I am hurt. I guess I lost my composure xD. Yeah I read it to, it was well planned and calm. -
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Adrianre66 wrote: »I have read your comments where you stated that having a honorable ribbon does not mean you are hack free as you can bypass the x-trap. May I ask you sincerely, how are we supposed to know that a member with a honorable ribbon has hacked in the past?. This is beyond our control to even monitor honestly. Quoting Mod Vu; stating that we registered late & that it is not your duty to select the players and that it is our duty to check with the members if they are hack free or not. Our team was one of the early registered teams and we edited our posts within the deadline stated in the form. Note: there are teams which are selected in the the tournament with late registration as well (including edits) which were permitted by you'll (This directly contradicts your statements of "registering late- too many teams, 1st come 1st serve basis. Simply shows that you all don't stick to your words).
I want to clarify, because it seems like everyone has issues reading my posts. I do not know or have any influence about/on the DQs, I gave a simple hypothesis on the reason, not a definite statement (hence the "might" in my sentence), saying that the tournament selection is unfair because I said something and was wrong is just ridiculous, because I did say I had no access to the information regarding the process of the tournaments.
I still don't know why you were disqualified and it doesn't concern me, but it's been said that your entry was checked more than once, so this ship's sailed. -
SixString327 wrote: »Could you specified the list of "Cosmetic items" that players are allowed to wear? Just wanna make sure so someone doesn't get dq for wearing something they weren't supposed to.
Cosmetic Items would be anything that you wear that does not give you advantage in game, such as bunny ears, witch hat, back pack, head gear, glasses, devil wings, side pouch, Santa hat. These would be fine and might even look cool
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CamelSoldier wrote: »Cosmetic Items would be anything that you wear that does not give you advantage in game, such as bunny ears, witch hat, back pack, head gear, glasses, devil wings, side pouch, Santa hat. These would be fine and might even look cool
Sorry buddy, wasn't asking you
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Thanks for clarifying CamelSoldier.
The OP has been updated with a table version of the teams List (you can check your roster).
The feedback you all share is key in running this event efficiently. Please try to be more respectful; we can't address your issues if you're quad posting or criticizing rules that have been fairly applied to every single player and team.
I've read your comments on the imbalance that is created when bulletproof items are allowed. Removing them (just like last year) is a total possibility, and that is thanks to your feedback. Please check the OP for updates as we approach the start of the March of the Ghosts! -
Hey GM Kanadian, Just want to know the reason that my team has been dqed our team name is: Clutch
If you could reply to me and tell me what was the issue, that would help me a lot because im so confused right now, Thanks
Any teams that registered but do not appear on the bracket were DQ'd for one of two reasons:
1) One of your members did not pass the 2-year Hack History check.
2) We ran out of spots in the tournament.
If you registered earlier than the teams you see on the bracket, then that would mean you fall under reason 1.
If you registered after the final team on the bracket, you likely fall under reason 2. -
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Nice to see you're open to removing armor, it'd really help maintain the tradition of competitive GM
I was wondering why 3rd party recording rule was removed? It is almost essential in such a huge Ghost Mode tournament when there's a big prize on the line.
The in-game replay system is pretty outdated and is not always reliable when it comes to showing the accuracy of what actually happened.
Besides, all the teams that signed up were fine with recording or else they wouldn't have signed up in the first place since it was the initial rule.
I know it sounds like i keep asking for a lotbut Im just trying to make sure there are no hiccups in this tourney cause this tournament only comes around once a year for ghost mode players.
please re-add the rule that makes us record our first person gameplay to ensure the legitimacy of players ty -
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mememememme wrote: »Can someone please clarify?PizzaFrozen wrote: »Nice to see you're open to removing armor, it'd really help maintain the tradition of competitive GM
I was wondering why 3rd party recording rule was removed? It is almost essential in such a huge Ghost Mode tournament when there's a big prize on the line.
The in-game replay system is pretty outdated and is not always reliable when it comes to showing the accuracy of what actually happened.
Besides, all the teams that signed up were fine with recording or else they wouldn't have signed up in the first place since it was the initial rule.
I know it sounds like i keep asking for a lotbut Im just trying to make sure there are no hiccups in this tourney cause this tournament only comes around once a year for ghost mode players.
please re-add the rule that makes us record our first person gameplay to ensure the legitimacy of players ty
Thanks for the catch! The section has now been updated. 3rd party recording is a necessary feature to maintain legitimacy, I agree.
We appreciate the continued feedback everyone. The last few items to list will be tie breakers, maps / bans, and armor. We're are going to be banning the use of armor and items such as damage down. OP to be updated shortly. -
[GM]Triton wrote: »
We appreciate the continued feedback everyone. The last few items to list will be tie breakers, maps / bans, and armor. We're are going to be banning the use of armor and items such as damage down. OP to be updated shortly.
also, please consider not allowing character items(cosmetics) -
[GM]Triton wrote: »Thanks for the catch! The section has now been updated. 3rd party recording is a necessary feature to maintain legitimacy, I agree.
We appreciate the continued feedback everyone. The last few items to list will be tie breakers, maps / bans, and armor. We're are going to be banning the use of armor and items such as damage down. OP to be updated shortly.
Can we use MOSS to record?
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