Holocaust Day
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RuSHadow92 wrote: »how I can explain it to you?
obama vs ahmadinejad(obama was peace and ahmedinijad want to bomb th whole world)
who is the good here is who is the bad?
Did you read anything that I (or he) actually wrote? O.o
A one guy can't represent Islam or Arabs, if you believe that then I'll take the soldier who killed my friend's mother as a symbol for your country just like what you're doing, thx! -
Hussein_505h wrote: »Yep.
Oh... so you're actually saying that Palestinians must leave their country, friends, family... etc and get the Fu** out to any another Arabic country ( and as you know those "22" Arabic country aren't that powerful or that rich to simply give those Palestinians a great life... (I mean lol if they were that powerful or actually did cooperate then you wouldn't see a new country made called Israel)
Alright, you're getting away from your original thread.
You actually know that your country wanted to expand by making wars and it already did in past but it got fu**ed, so it's simply now fine with Palestine, right ?
I got no problem with the Jews, I'm Muslim and my religion simply says that I can't harm anyone, so if Arabs are trying to kill your soldiers then it's fine cuz they already attacking innocent people and stole their country, but if an Arabic guy tries to kill you or to kill any Non-Soldier guy then it's wrong and he becomes a Non-Muslim guy.
"my little sister get cold feet", is that the worst thing you got?
One of my great friends (who is from Palestine) his mother got killed cuz of your country was attacking them, try to watch the other side, cuz as you say "you're so damn smart" and I'm sure you will find out what I mean.
The germans hated the jews so the jews the died in the holocust
when the jews got their country the arabs did alliance againts the jwes and attacked them 5 countries vs 1
antisemitism against jews is rising in europe once again !
22 arabic countries hate Israel and don't want this country to be exist !
why at least the rest on the world(the normal people) the pople who want peace just like us dont support Israel?
we just want to leave in peace we don't want to kill any one and don't want to be killed!
Israel never attacked first! Israel have always been the victim !! -
RuSHadow92 wrote: »The germans hated the jews so the jews the died in the holocust
when the jews got their country the arabs did alliance againts the jwes and attacked them 5 countries vs 1
antisemitism against jews is rising in europe once again !
22 arabic countries hate Israel and don't want this country to be exist !
why at least the rest on the world(the normal people) the pople who want peace just like us dont support Israel?
we just want to leave in peace we don't want to kill any one and don't want to be killed!
Israel never attacked first! Israel have always been the victim !!
That is the funniest thing that I will ever read; whenever someone voices their opinion against Israel and its wrongdoing, it's considered to be "anti-semitism". To avoid being a racist or to be anti-Semitic, people often shy away from the problem. The truth of the matter, most educated people are aware of what's going on in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and it does not take a genius to figure out that Israel is the one with the power and holds the keys. They are the oppressors, not the victims.
I grew up there, so do not draw a picture for me of what it is like to be in Israel and Palestine. I can tell you from personal experience that it's a racist country based on messed up values and misguided notions of being the victim. It's an apartheid state that is living up to the term worse than South Africa. Walls around the West Bank and Gaza, you cannot move without permits, you are a second class citizen (or even worse) as a Palestinian. All of that sound familiar? Israel is still the victim? -
RuSHadow92 wrote: »Israel never attacked first! Israel have always been the victim !!
You know what?
I always asked how you guys are living with fine consciences while you know that you stole innocent people's country and you killed a lot of them...
But after talking to you now I get it, looks like there are many one like you who don't know any damn thing about your history or about what Israel is doing
It's worthless to argue with you while you don't know anything except what your country is trying to lie to you with.
Good luck with your conscience which I don't really feel that you got it. -
Hussein_505h wrote: »You know what?
I always asked how you guys are living with fine consciences while you know that you stole innocent people's country and you killed a lot of them...
But after talking to you now I get it, looks like there are many one like you who don't know any damn thing about your history or about what Israel is doing
It's worthless to argue with you while you don't know anything except what your country is trying to lie to you with.
Good luck with your consciences which I don't really feel that you got it.
I know the system, they are brainwashed from such a young age to believe they are the victims which, for them, justifies all the wrongdoing against the Palestinians. Unfortunately, I've seen it so many times that they use the Holocaust as the excuse for their very breath.. We must do this, do that, to avoid a second Holocaust; but it seems in the process, they're doing just the same to us.
It is very senseless to argue with a bigot like that. He feeds off empathy, he wants to hear how sorry we are for him. -
Hussein_505h wrote: »stole innocent people's country and you killed a lot of them...
stole? xDDD
how do you think other countries Were established?how do you think your country was established?
by wars and take over the land!!
I can say the same to you... that your country was belong to arabs/turkish/russian/chinese or what ever 1000 years ago and you stole it from them !
that's how all the countries have been established !! by war and take over the land from strange nations -
RuSHadow92 wrote: »stole? xDDD you stupid?
how do you think other countries was Were established?how do you think your country was established?
by wars and take over the land!!
I can say the same to you... that your country was belong to arabs/turkish/russian/chinese or what ever 1000 years ago and you stole it from them !
that's how all the countries have been established !! by war and take over the land from strange nations
Nah
obviously I'm from Egypt as you see O.o and it's way more old than 1000 years dude( I guess it's 7000 years or more lol) , and nope we didn't "stole" it like you guys, btw you've just admitted that your ppl stole it
yep looks like I'm the stupid one hereI know the system, they are brainwashed from such a young age to believe they are the victims which, for them, justifies all the wrongdoing against the Palestinians. Unfortunately, I've seen it so many times that they use the Holocaust as the excuse for their very breath.. We must do this, do that, to avoid a second Holocaust; but it seems in the process, they're doing just the same to us.
It is very senseless to argue with a bigot like that. He feeds off empathy, he wants to hear how sorry we are for him.
Indeed...
Glad to see that there's someone who's using his brain and not following a one side blindly whether if it was Palestine or Israel. -
Hussein_505h wrote: »Indeed...
Glad to see that there's someone who's using his brain and not following a one side blindly whether if it was Palestine or Israel.
you what to know what I "following a one side blindly " ? cuze I told you the Israelian are the good guys and arabs are the terror !
america vs iraq...who you will support?the good american people or the terror?
if it was america vs russia/america vs china/america vs grecce...so I would hear the both sides
but when we talk about terror the terror side cannot be listened ! -
RuSHadow92 wrote: »you what to know what I "following a one side blindly " ? cuze I told you the Israelian are the good guys and arabs are the terror !
america vs iraq...who you will support?the good american people or the terror?
if it was america vs russia/america vs china/america vs grecce...so I would hear the both sides
but when we talk about terror the terror side cannot be listened !
Once again, you're getting away from my right points and trying to be smart with another new points, but hey... I got the time to argue but still I'm sure it's worthless.
Anyway, I didn't mean you by saying "following a one side blindly", if I had the chance to deliver or even kill (I wouldn't do that tbh xD cuz I'm not a soldier lol) a terrorist Muslim to the police, jail...etc, then obviously I'd bcuz I hate them more than you, they're making everyone get the wrong idea about Islam/Arabs
"when we talk about terror the terror side cannot be listened"
alright, so you're saying that I can't listen to your side? Roger. -
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RuSHadow92 wrote: »of curse you can...here is the short form of the terror side
"we want to bomb the whole world"
the end
"We want to bomb the whole world" / "we want to take over the whole world"
Both looks like a "terror" side for me. (And nope, I won't consider the ppl who kill Israel's soldiers as terrorists since they're trying to get bk their home) -
Here's my two cents.
Shadow, you say that all countries started out by a people conquering and taking over another people. That is true. Up to 200 or so years ago, there were still places on Earth not claimed by any nation/people. Thats why nations sent armies and went to war- to claim areas of land either already populated, but not "officially" recognized, or areas of land without inhabitants.
Today, the world is different. Countries have been established, boundaries have been set. When people test those boundaries, the world usually is against them. Why? Because war is a terrible thing, and it causes more pain and suffering and bad feelings than any amount of land or natural resources could possibly satisfy.
I can't speak as to exactly why Israel was given to the Jews (who are a people united by a common faith, not a race, as someone here pointed out). Most likely, it was because they had just suffered an atrocity that had been allowed to continue by the various nations of the world. America only entered WW2 because of the attacks on Pearl Harbor, even though at the time they were aware of what was happening in Germany. England knew what was happening, even while they signed Austria away to Hitler.
They were all afraid. Uncertain, and afraid. And I think it is for that reason especially that they felt moved to make a special pact with the Jewish people, and gave them something which, quite honestly, was not theirs to give away. The Jews got their land of Israel. They SHOULD have taken it with gratitude, and worked to let the events of the past lie. As others among you have said, however, they have kept the "victim" mentality. They feel that they deserve to be treated differently for what they underwent.
This mindset is sickness of the mind. When you are born into the world, you cannot control factors like the state of life, or the resources available to you. What you CAN control is changing the quality of life around you, and they attitude with which you accomplish all things. Sure, it will be harder for a Palestinian child to attend Harvard. Is it impossible? No. Is it unfair? Perhaps, but if there is any rule that applies to everyone equally, it's that the world is not fair. Since you can't change that fact, you need to accept it as quickly as possible and get on with the business of living.
Shadow, you also mention that the arabic countries are all "terrorists". You attribute that terrorism to the Islamic religion that is predominant in that part of the world. As any normal muslim will tell you, Islam is a religion of peace. Those who choose to believe the other "versions" of the Quran and believe the world must be "converted by the sword" are just as bad as the Westboro Baptist Church when compared to Christianity/Catholicism. They are an extremist minority; to say that their whole country should be viewed the same because of their actions and ideals is both stupid. Not all Germans were doing terrible things during WW2. Many helped Jews and others find freedom. Don't make generalizations when there are none to be made.
If Israel treats the members of its country who are not Jews as secondary citizens, and does not give equal rights regardless of origin/race/religion, then they should expect the people to be angry and rise up.
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