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Im sorry to tell you this but the FTC which regulates companies in their practices sees Vemma as a legit company. So please tell me your reliable source of information.
a simple google is easy enough l0l
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=vemma+scam -
a simple google is easy enough l0l
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=vemma+scam
I said RELIABLE you moron. There is not a single RELIABLE source that says its a scam. Any jackass can make a claim. -
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ok from what i've researched so far purvis :
Vemma $160 2pack
- $160 a month
You must get on 8 cycles that are worth $20 to breakeven
You make $160 a month considering it's 8 $20 cycles
You produce a lot of sells to the company and it's a bunch of ratio things that i'm not even gonna get into, BUT, You produce $3840 worth of sales to the company and $1920 worth of product , you make them $5760 a month so you can make $160 lelllll -
Carlos_A30 wrote: »ok from what i've researched so far purvis :
Vemma $160 2pack
- $160 a month
You must get on 8 cycles that are worth $20 to breakeven
You make $160 a month considering it's 8 $20 cycles
You produce a lot of sells to the company and it's a bunch of ratio things that i'm not even gonna get into, BUT, You produce $3840 worth of sales to the company and $1920 worth of product , you make them $5760 a month so you can make $160 lelllll
IDK and IDC
Did you get that from someone that isn't backed by the FTC or at least have a business degree? -
IDK and IDC
Did you get that from someone that isn't backed by the FTC or at least have a business degree?
It's simple facts and VERY simple math if you just give it a thought, but you normally don't think a lot sooooo, it's very hars for you to give something a thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxBXke6KvPA -
Carlos_A30 wrote: »It's simple facts and VERY simple math if you just give it a thought, but you normally don't think a lot sooooo, it's very hars for you to give something a thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxBXke6KvPA
Any idiot such as yourself can throw numbers around all day to make a point but it doesn't help your case if you have the organization in charge "FTC" says its legit. Im not going by what I believe or what so number throwing guru has to say, I go by what the certified agency says what is right or wrong.
Just because some lunatic is standing on the corner and preaching how aliens abducted him and that they are real doesn't mean I will believe him. -
Any idiot such as yourself can throw numbers around all day to make a point but it doesn't help your case if you have the organization in charge "FTC" says its legit. Im not going by what I believe or what so number throwing guru has to say, I go by what the certified agency says what is right or wrong.
Just because some lunatic is standing on the corner and preaching how aliens abducted him and that they are real doesn't mean I will believe him.
Majority wouldn't believe the guy, but some will examine him to determine whether he's lying or telling the truth, at least that's what I'd hope. Which is what I've done. You keep saying Vemma isn't a scam, nor your Wake Up Now scam is, but guess what bud, they're, but then again you're just an idiotic imbecile that looks like a dolphin. -
Any idiot such as yourself can throw numbers around all day to make a point but it doesn't help your case if you have the organization in charge "FTC" says its legit. Im not going by what I believe or what so number throwing guru has to say, I go by what the certified agency says what is right or wrong.
Just because some lunatic is standing on the corner and preaching how aliens abducted him and that they are real doesn't mean I will believe him.
There's a difference between a business being legal and favorable to the worker. No one was arguing the legality of the business, what they were pointing out is the stupidity in seeing that as a way to increase prizepots for cf.
Overall I am beginning to think business and management aren't for you.
Your vemma business failed
Your lan failed
You have managed to make even the friendly friendsters on the forums insult you
Please tell me you aren't pursuing a career in business or management -
With pleasure
Be sure to upgrade my accounts user group before tonight so I can get started
Sir, please open a support ticket and I will begin the process of upgrading your account and transferring ownership of ESG to you.
Also, on a more serious note. ZZXQ, you are welcome to make all of these changes and do whatever you want, in ESL.
There was no perfect solution to this problem here. On one hand, we had a bunch of teams who signed up to the league to play, we assumed by signing up and having 5 members on their roster that they wanted to play. Every league has teams die, but when we have half of the matches not being played because teams were not showing up, we had to step in and take action. This was the best solution we had at the time, and it had some drawbacks. Yes, there were teams who lost wins because of this. But we feel that in the end it is better to have active teams playing each other than keep inactive teams in the schedule. I think I have an idea for a compromise that should make everyone happy, and I'll post an announcement after I've had a chance to talk with Polleus about it. Stay tuned. -
Sir, please open a support ticket and I will begin the process of upgrading your account and transferring ownership of ESG to you.
Also, on a more serious note. ZZXQ, you are welcome to make all of these changes and do whatever you want, in ESL.
There was no perfect solution to this problem here. On one hand, we had a bunch of teams who signed up to the league to play, we assumed by signing up and having 5 members on their roster that they wanted to play. Every league has teams die, but when we have half of the matches not being played because teams were not showing up, we had to step in and take action. This was the best solution we had at the time, and it had some drawbacks. Yes, there were teams who lost wins because of this. But we feel that in the end it is better to have active teams playing each other than keep inactive teams in the schedule. I think I have an idea for a compromise that should make everyone happy, and I'll post an announcement after I've had a chance to talk with Polleus about it. Stay tuned.
Can you message me on Skype or send me an email please. Thanks -
We have posted an announcement regarding the league, you may read it here
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=286948
Also, Purvis I don't have you on skype or your email.
Email me at mike.c@esportsgenesis.com -
You guys need to just accept the fact the change was made, keep making posts and threads about the change will only **** off Polleus, now we all know once he decides to stop ESG, Crossfire is dead. Who wants to take their time out of their lives and away for their family's to support a bunch of immature little kids who don't appreciate anything.
We need to change the negative attitudes we have in this community it's definitely Cancer for the competitive scene. Dying slowly and surely. -
Speak_Truth wrote: »You guys need to just accept the fact the change was made, keep making posts and threads about the change will only **** off Polleus, now we all know once he decides to stop ESG, Crossfire is dead. Who wants to take their time out of their lives and away for their family's to support a bunch of immature little kids who don't appreciate anything.
We need to change the negative attitudes we have in this community it's definitely Cancer for the competitive scene. Dying slowly and surely.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but we already made a change which will end the conversation. -
Dear ESG, Why would you waste 2 Weeks of our time showing up for matches that no longer count and change my schedule without me knowing well in advance too, so I could arrange my team to be able to play. We assumed we would be alright for tonight since our team we were scheduled to play (until today when we were changed) was a consistent no show.
Can you explain why you take away wins from a team like ABC that beat ACE, and now tell them you wasted 2 weeks of their time and on top of that, are going to take away their most valuable win? To me that seems really unfair. I think you should have just let the schedule you had be played out and just given consistent no shows, auto FF losses. Why did you also not post the new schedule in advance? I work a lot and when you make changes without me knowing well in advance who I am playing and when, its hard for me to show up to these things. I suggest you reconsider this change, and find a way to be fair to those teams who already won games, as its truly awful for a league to say "Oh that fair win you got doesn't count".
If any other host did this in any game they would be berated with ridicule, because taking away fair wins after the fact is REALLY DUMB. Not trying to be insulting but you basically said **** you to the teams who actually showed up for all matches so far.
i think that esg made the best decision that could possibly be made. if teams won there match they should do it again, if they were mean't to win they will win again. not everyone got a free dq (no show win) so some teams got 3 points. so some teams were already ahead of others just off no shows... they just put everyone on the same level and GAVE EVERYONE A FREE CHANCE TO PROVE THEMSELVES.
JUST STUPID. if u were meant to win u will win again and beat the team u are crying about now teams like mine gotta deal with teams that got 2 free dq wins and such. -
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[MOD]Polleus wrote: »So you'd rather give playoff spots to teams who can potentially forfeit their way there, rather than earn it? I understand we're taking a way a couple of games, but it's a double edged sword here. I'd rather see teams EARN their way to the end, rather than being handed free wins. We might as well end the season now and auto-calculate records and points based on teams we know won't show up.
That's not how it works. You have to commit as a team and a no-show is not committing.
I've been no-showed in ESL country championship four times and delaying a match because "it has to be played" is incredibly stupid. -
The discussion is over. The new schedule stays. We will score the old games because some teams actually deserve their wins (ABC vs. Ace). It's unfortunate so many DQ wins will be counted, but at least now you will have a really good chance to actually play the remainder of your games rather than just show up to 50% of them when there is an active team. This is how it's going to be. We're not discussing it any further.
Here it comes, since all of you like it so much....
If you don't like it, don't play. If you have concerns, submit a support ticket on ESG. This is done.
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