ESG Replacement Team Matches - Welfare, Player Slayer, Trio, VIOAES
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Due to time constraints, we have to know which 2 teams will be replacing Prime and K1ng by tomorrow night. I apologize for these matches being such short notice, but we have armor codes to give out to all of the eligible teams. Sometimes these codes take time to credit to your account and we want to make sure it's all delivered in time for Saturday night's matches.
So we're forcing a default time of tomorrow night at 9:00 PM EST. Please have your matches played and reported by the end of tomorrow night. Thank you.
Current eligible team captains from Ace Gaming, Fly Society, Youn9 Man and Instinct, please contact me via ESG PM's with your Xfire information, as I will be needing a method of contact to deliver the armor codes to your team. Thank you.
So we're forcing a default time of tomorrow night at 9:00 PM EST. Please have your matches played and reported by the end of tomorrow night. Thank you.
Current eligible team captains from Ace Gaming, Fly Society, Youn9 Man and Instinct, please contact me via ESG PM's with your Xfire information, as I will be needing a method of contact to deliver the armor codes to your team. Thank you.
Comments
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Wasn't player slayer DQ'd?
What happened to Iheartless?
Will the other teams get armor codes before the event?
I know this question sucks, but could you guys for future events start providing proof not because you have to, but so people don't sit and criticize the AC, because proofing bans only legitimizes what you are doing more. -
Wasn't player slayer DQ'd?
What happened to Iheartless?
Will the other teams get armor codes before the event?
I know this question sucks, but could you guys for future events start providing proof not because you have to, but so people don't sit and criticize the AC, because proofing bans only legitimizes what you are doing more.
All these questions have already been answered. I posted in the other thread last night what happened to the other teams.
Also, I wrote in the original post that we will be giving out the codes before Saturday night, in the first paragraph.
No we will not be providing proof. Let them criticize all you want. It has been our policy since day one and it's not going to change. I guarantee you when someone gets banned in ESL, there will not be any sort of proof provided outside of who it was and what the program was. If you don't trust who we are or our anti-cheat, don't play. It's that simple. I'm not here to beg every person who criticizes us to believe what we're doing is right. Z8Games, WCG and CFS have trusted us to do the right thing. That should be enough. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »All these questions have already been answered. I posted in the other thread last night what happened to the other teams.
Also, I wrote in the original post that we will be giving out the codes before Saturday night, in the first paragraph.
No we will not be providing proof. Let them criticize all you want. I guarantee you when someone gets banned in ESL, there will not be any sort of proof provided outside of who it was and what the program was.
Actually I am going to work on being able to provide proof for ESL, of course we won't be able to right away, but I think in the long run we can find a way to show legit proof of bans without giving out too much. That way we don't look like we are trying to hide something, even if we are not. Proofing bans just furthers proves the legitimacy of an organization. -
Good luck with that. The ESL Wire coders aren't going to give you anything more than who they caught and what they caught, I guarantee you. There's no reason for them to give you any more for the same reason I just told you. If you don't trust what we're doing, then why are you playing in our events?
Z8Games, G4Box, Smilegate, WCG & CFS have trusted us to do the right thing. That should speak enough for our integrity, as well as ESL's. Enough of this subject. Let's get back on topic please. Thank you. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Good luck with that. The ESL Wire coders aren't going to give you anything more than who they caught and what they caught, I guarantee you. There's no reason for them to give you any more for the same reason I just told you. If you don't trust what we're doing, then why are you playing in our events?
Z8Games, G4Box, Smilegate, WCG & CFS have trusted us to do the right thing. That should speak enough for our integrity, as well as ESL's. Enough of this subject. Let's get back on topic please. Thank you.
I trust your Anti-Cheat, Just think it would make the community as a whole happier to know who and why, but I understand why you don't give out that info. -
I trust your Anti-Cheat, Just think it would make the community as a whole happier to know who and why, but I understand why you don't give out that info.
*An anonymous cheater* - Take a look at my PC, its clean with no hack files. The logs that you show are fake with the hack files edited in.
That is just a possible scenario if a league were to show evidence. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Due to time constraints, we have to know which 2 teams will be replacing Prime and K1ng by tomorrow night. I apologize for these matches being such short notice, but we have armor codes to give out to all of the eligible teams. Sometimes these codes take time to credit to your account and we want to make sure it's all delivered in time for Saturday night's matches.
So we're forcing a default time of tomorrow night at 9:00 PM EST. Please have your matches played and reported by the end of tomorrow night. Thank you.
Current eligible team captains from Ace Gaming, Fly Society, Youn9 Man and Instinct, please contact me via ESG PM's with your Xfire information, as I will be needing a method of contact to deliver the armor codes to your team. Thank you.
We scheduled 5 PM EST with trio, and they're fine with it. Is that ok? Or we have to play at default? -
Actually I am going to work on being able to provide proof for ESL, of course we won't be able to right away, but I think in the long run we can find a way to show legit proof of bans without giving out too much. That way we don't look like we are trying to hide something, even if we are not. Proofing bans just furthers proves the legitimacy of an organization.
Like I've said before, releasing logs only hurts ESG.
The average player won't understand what they mean, so it will be gibberish to them. - This doesn't help ESG.
The people who do understand the logs, are either competitors writing their own AC, or cheat developers trying to bypass it. - This hurts ESG.
Even if those cases didn't exist, we would still have people saying the logs are fake, etc. There is nothing in it from a business standpoint to do that, so we won't. On another note, you are at the bottom of the ESL ladder. Wire reportedly cost 500,000 euros to develop. You can't possibly believe they would ever give you, much less the public, information on how it works do you? Tremendous amounts of time and effort go into most of these programs, and leagues are not about to let that go to waste. I say most, because well, look at OCG. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Good luck with that. The ESL Wire coders aren't going to give you anything more than who they caught and what they caught, I guarantee you.
^ This.
ESL's ban system would work similar to ESG's. Organizations are not obligated and shouldn't be allowed to provide indepth proof as the anti-cheat is built for the organization to ensure fair play. That's where League Admins come into the picture, whom you should be trusting seeing how you're already participating in a event being ran by them.
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[MOD]Polleus wrote: »All these questions have already been answered. I posted in the other thread last night what happened to the other teams.
Also, I wrote in the original post that we will be giving out the codes before Saturday night, in the first paragraph.
No we will not be providing proof. Let them criticize all you want. It has been our policy since day one and it's not going to change. I guarantee you when someone gets banned in ESL, there will not be any sort of proof provided outside of who it was and what the program was. If you don't trust who we are or our anti-cheat, don't play. It's that simple. I'm not here to beg every person who criticizes us to believe what we're doing is right. Z8Games, WCG and CFS have trusted us to do the right thing. That should be enough.
Does any one where this thread is? I would like to read it. -
Wasn't player slayer DQ'd?
What happened to Iheartless?
Will the other teams get armor codes before the event?
I know this question sucks, but could you guys for future events start providing proof not because you have to, but so people don't sit and criticize the AC, because proofing bans only legitimizes what you are doing more.
ZZXQ I understand how you are questioning things to try and make this community better but sometimes you have to lay back and let an organization do their thing. No organization or government releases all their information because it only hurts them in the long run. There have been many cases of extreme murders and weird ways of suicide but the government is not going to release information because they don't want psychotic people to try and do the same weird ****. Point and case, ESG is one of the only things we have and if z8games and everyone puts trust into them than we should to because if they are gone than CFNA might as well be dead.
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