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  • Kurrag wrote: »
    Wow
    What a great update... I can't play now. --'

    No problem any time
  • I don't know why people who know the difference between cheaters and legit players and obviously know how F11 and F12 works, don't kick their cheaters.

    Every time I watch a guy in my team cheating, I start votekick. When he leave by votekick, the other team don't want to kick their cheaters (classic they crying to our team to kick cheater and they don't want to do the same).

    Of course there is a lot of ME kids who support cheaters just because they are from the same region.

    This game has no tomorrow. Maybe for 2016 if they don't improve cheating situation, there will be no money income and Z8 will crash.
  • tbh.
    I fully believe that z8 staff is doing as much as they can about hackers up to the limitations of budget and set guidelines of business operations. I can not confidently say that the focus on banning, events, updates, and community management is appropriately divided among each other according to what needs the most attention. Also, I'm not sure about what is expected from z8(or any equivalent international company) in terms of profit or minimum player base.

    I do believe though that the quality of CF is more affected by hacking and "community friendliness", than it is affected by the content provided through events and additions. Right now I don't believe that CF is operating to meet a positive long-term and consistent growth(it feels like its going to die slowly). The events and content updates are great for maintaining interest, but it is temporary, hackers are a constant issue and will always zap the temporary interest gained. The content does not always equal game quality.

    The only thought I have that might help is to provide a higher budget to in game monitoring and banning.
  • Doesn't it say enough that this is thread is so big?
  • I understand that there are always going to be people programming hacks for this game. But I think the powers that be need to focus on who uses these cheats the most.

    Sadly, the death of this game is increasing every day that the middle easterners are allowed to create accounts. The developers and people who are in charge of thwarting the hackers are in an endless cycle. The cheaters that get caught and banned simply make a new account to continue ruining the game experience for legit players.

    Players like myself and others that play this game daily will tell you that the greater majority of the cheaters we encounter in game are from the middle east. Those that don't believe me only need to play a FFA or TDM after 10 pm Eastern Time to see the game at it's worst.

    I lead a very active clan and associate with other leaders of some of the top clans in CF and we discuss the amount of cheaters in the game has discouraged a lot of once-loyal CF players to search for other games. I, myself have tried to hold out on playing another game with the hopes of CF's game experience improving back to how it once was a few years ago, but that hope is quickly fading.

    I have spent thousands of dollars on this game and I would hate to move on to something else, but at this point, the game experience is not worth the spending of another dollar.

    Smilegate. Z8. Powers that be. Listen to your loyal players while you still have us.
  • JGX421 wrote: »
    I understand that there are always going to be people programming hacks for this game. But I think the powers that be need to focus on who uses these cheats the most.

    Sadly, the death of this game is increasing every day that the middle easterners are allowed to create accounts. The developers and people who are in charge of thwarting the hackers are in an endless cycle. The cheaters that get caught and banned simply make a new account to continue ruining the game experience for legit players.

    Players like myself and others that play this game daily will tell you that the greater majority of the cheaters we encounter in game are from the middle east. Those that don't believe me only need to play a FFA or TDM after 10 pm Eastern Time to see the game at it's worst.

    I lead a very active clan and associate with other leaders of some of the top clans in CF and we discuss the amount of cheaters in the game has discouraged a lot of once-loyal CF players to search for other games. I, myself have tried to hold out on playing another game with the hopes of CF's game experience improving back to how it once was a few years ago, but that hope is quickly fading.

    I have spent thousands of dollars on this game and I would hate to move on to something else, but at this point, the game experience is not worth the spending of another dollar.

    Smilegate. Z8. Powers that be. Listen to your loyal players while you still have us.

    Amen - Pun intended :p

    Really something does need to be done with them as they are the problem, make them a version, ban them, restrict new accounts being created in these regions.

    Ofc the above is very racist but if this game want's to survive something needs to be done as the cheaters from these regions are too abundant and simply don't care for Z8 nor the game regardless of the fact that Z8 deeply cares for them to the detriment of everyone else.
  • Atheistic wrote: »
    Amen - Pun intended :p


    Ofc the above is very racist


    It's not meant to be racist... only honest.
  • Hackers are driving players away

    8 out of 10 games are full of hackers and egys.

    Instant shotty headshots and speed hacks all the time.

    No one speaks english.

    Everyone is named mohamedd.

    I can't take it.

    Combat Arms has very few hackers nowadays. I will be there until this game is fixed and full of North American people!
  • warrior_nt wrote: »

    Combat Arms has very few hackers nowadays.

    Hahaha, very funny. And if you didn't know, CA hacks are much worster, they shoot this blue explosion beam thing that kills everyone ^^
  • xtrapsucksbysamuraimo.gif

    Do I need to say more?

    Downloaded this.
    could not pass on it.
  • warrior_nt wrote: »
    8 out of 10 games are full of egy hackers .

    fixed it for you
  • warrior_nt wrote: »
    Instant shotty headshots and speed hacks all the time.

    You forgot that now they even respawn in the same place they got killed so that you have to deal with them during ALL the game.

    IP ban egys now
  • Help: Cheaters, Urgent, Read

    This will be yet another thread offering / pleading / suggesting a solution to our cheating situation.

    Now, I personally do not think all Egyptians cheat. I recently played an ESL Match against an all-Egyptian team. They were polite, fun, and great sports about the whole thing. I had a great time. However, the situation has become absolutely ridiculous.

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://br.forum.z8games.com/showpost.php%3Fs%3Dff329e9e1245403d324bfe96d6383a13%26p%3D1536767%26postcount%3D23&usg=ALkJrhhXar5fsS0djKQk7LfvixWgmlhkBw

    What is preventing our version from doing this? Their moderator immediately fixed this issue.

    Every version except ours - including those owned by Z8games - is blocking other locations from accessing their servers. From the standpoint of corporate consistency, it makes sense to do the same thing for all versions.

    Now, moving on to North America / UK as a whole:


    Every person I've spoken with -- every last one -- has agreed that the overwhelming majority of the cheaters they see are foreign. In other words, the majority of cheaters have pings ranging from 160-500. The solution is very, very simple.

    For those locations whose pings are outside of a reasonable range (i.e. Europe, Asia, Africa, South America), block their IP from accessing the server. You'll lose out on potentially hundreds of legitimate players (and payers, counting those who spend ZP). However, you'll gain potentially hundreds in terms of those who only quit because the situation got so bad, and your fan-base will be nothing but appreciative.

    I sincerely hope you - finally - start making the intelligent decision, and start profiling who you allow to play your game.
  • He's not a moderator, he's a Game Manager (GM).

    Also there's already a thread in discussion about what CFAL has done (or in my opinion, redid)
    http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=289259

    We should stick with 1 thread atm.
  • one_9 wrote: »
    He's not a moderator, he's a Game Manager (GM).

    Also there's already a thread in discussion about what CFAL has done (or in my opinion, redid)
    http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=289259

    We should stick with 1 thread atm.

    No, I'm all about mob mentality. Just want to be able to pub in peace, and if that involves reducing the game to a quarter of its activity (and I think that's being incredibly generous), then so be it.

    Edit: On a more serious note, the best possible answer would be to ban the creation of new accounts from regions other than NA / UK. While there are undoubtedly account generation methods, those could be cracked down on as well (theoretically) through stricter account creation policies.
  • Ellustrial wrote: »
    No, I'm all about mob mentality.

    Maybe the MODs should push for a rule on not having "mob mentality" on the forums. :)
  • one_9 wrote: »
    Maybe the MODs should push for a rule on not having "mob mentality" on the forums. :)

    Don't use curse-words at me.
  • Ellustrial wrote: »
    No, I'm all about mob mentality. Just want to be able to pub in peace, and if that involves reducing the game to a quarter of its activity (and I think that's being incredibly generous), then so be it.

    Edit: On a more serious note, the best possible answer would be to ban the creation of new accounts from regions other than NA / UK. While there are undoubtedly account generation methods, those could be cracked down on as well (theoretically) through stricter account creation policies.

    I completely agree with everything you say. They should also add email verification which they don't at the moment and definitely restrict new accounts from another regions.

    Most of my friends, stopped playing because of hackers and Egyptian players. They started to get annoyed of Egyptian players because they would get kicked on a regular basis by them and most of the yell 'Allha yok' or something. Which can get very annoying at times, especially when there are 10 of them spamming the chat. I still don't know why they haven't blocked these words yet.

    I'm not trying to target a group of people or anything here. I'm just saying what they told me to why they were leaving.
  • I like how this is a nicely made thread and all constructive, yet you called Saidin a Moderator.
  • Isaac_oL wrote: »
    I like how this is a nicely made thread and all constructive, yet you called Saidin a Moderator.

    Well he was or rather is a moderator. A game moderator = GM.
  • Saidin is a Game Manager.


    Europe is not outside of the reasonable range for UK servers, for the record. I'm EU, not UK and ping in at under 25.
  • Also I'm curious to know what is considered outside of a "reasonable range".
  • one_9 wrote: »
    Also I'm curious to know what is considered outside of a "reasonable range".

    Maybe starting at 500 or 300 or 200 those are just mega pings.
  • Anything above 180 is about right. Try going up against a 12 ping Canadian with a shovel while you have 180. I get 60-70 and that is tricky to time.
  • Why ban players from South America? a fair player like I do not deserve it! , Gm's here should give more attention to the players and banish the Egypts, in crossfire AL were entering Egypts, the same day pos Ip banned them because we do not have the same treatment in crossfire NA? "I'm not being racist, I respect all religions, but not to endure more of these mohameds!
  • +1
    Saidin is a GM, not MOD, but agreed with your suggestion that we should have separate servers for Ping ranges. E.g., alpha should be < 100, beta 100 - 200, etc, or just completely block players with ping > 200.
  • Please block Egyptian hackers! Please try to give me 1, just 1 TD room without hackers in it. Nothing!
  • Darfein wrote: »
    You forgot that now they even respawn in the same place they got killed so that you have to deal with them during ALL the game.

    IP ban egys now

    Yea i seen that.Great! a new spawn hack .Even more crap to contend with.This game going down rapidly.