G4box pretty much gave the NA/UK players the middle finger.
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They get "offend" if you tell them "God doesn't exist", whilst they say Allah is real and know he is real and their life revolves around him. So what would a normal person think who knows their god is real and they know you are going to hell for not believing? They would think "stupid person".
So where does "offended" come into it? And why bother reporting people? And why the double standard. Would any reasonable person be "offended" if I said Z8games doesn't exist? No they'd laugh it off.
The truth is lots of muslims have a hair trigger sensitivity to perceived insults because they want things done their way and if you don't agree you get threats from the followers of this peaceful religion.
What did one of them post here "It will be removed or else", which translates to bow down or there will be trouble and I'm sure z8 are doing their best to accommodate them.
And they didn't post and say it's offensive please remove it either the general tone was "this will be removed".
Just a pushy bunch of religious nuts that have nothing better to do.
I'd like to see that much outrage about their fellow brothers hacking, but a few pixels is more important to them.
Just like in the real world films offend them, cartoons offend them but stuff that actually matters doesn't. Not even killing each other lol. I've never seen a riot about womens rights but if a film isn't to their standards then they must do something.
You argue and you bicker and you fight
Atheists and catholics, Jews and Hindus argue day and night
Over what they think is true,
No one entertains the thought of maybe God does not believe in you,
We pray so badly for heaven..
Knowing that every day could be the day that you die,
But maybe life on earth could be heaven,
Doesn't just the thought of it make it worth a try...
He's not gonna give you love just 'cause he knows that you want him to..
If you want love the love's gotta come from you -
You argue and you bicker and you fight
Atheists and catholics, Jews and Hindus argue day and night
Over what they think is true,
No one entertains the thought of maybe God does not believe in you,
We pray so badly for heaven..
Knowing that every day could be the day that you die,
But maybe life on earth could be heaven,
Doesn't just the thought of it make it worth a try...
He's not gonna give you love just 'cause he knows that you want him to..
If you want love the love's gotta come from you
I think you'll find that is you lot.
What I want is either you get banned for saying "allah is one" or noone gets banned for saying he does/doesn't. Pretty simple and pretty fair.
Above all I'd suggest keeping your religion at home and so should everyone. It's a game not a mosque.
And likewise arguing for sanity; You don't really get offended at hearing he doesn't exist because you know he's real, the only people that would get "offended" is those that know Islam is false but pretend to believe in it.
Like wise with the map is just a element of the theme. It's supposed to be in the ME where people believe in allah and it's also war torn and a destroyed place. Hence pages on the floor from a book you might expect to be there.
It's not an insult, it's not a real book, it's not even a real floor or world. It's a game but religious people have been spamming the forum/tickets/PM's to get it removed.
Actually you should be happy they even care enough to add something from your religion.
I'd actually want it removed if it didn't "offend" you. -
I take it you're more anti-Islam than anti-religion as your name indicates, or are you just on a roll today?
Nope all are as stupid as each other.
I even mentioned the pope in this thread as being an imbecile.
It is a nice deflection though I suppose. To save you thinking more deeply or telling us why exactly they should be offended at hearing something contrary to their beliefs without it being an insult.
And as you might notice with the game being a majority of this religion and making pushy and aggressive demands and getting special treatment then yes it will mostly be about Islam.
Infact I'll just add to this that I don't really care much about religion, I don't want it destroyed or bibles. qurans burn.
In fact I'm totally happy with whatever people want to believe in as long as everyone gets treated equally and they keep their religion to themselves and follow their own rules and don't expect everyone else to. -
you people will never stop posting '' oh why they remove the paper on sand storm '' ? why you even make it a bigger deal ? just relax and play your game... btw the legit muslims in CF same like you.. we all dont like to see mohamed and ahmed and all these names in CF and using hack..it make us mad just like you but for us we wont go and insult the hacker religion lul just leave the game and search for another with your friends. untill z8games do something about all the hackers in game<-- '' dream''
and you are going a bit too far with all this.. about the paper that is written in arabic we are not saying we dont want any arabic letters in game. just dont write our god's name in just a GAME and before you talk about islam and other religion.. just make a search and read some stuff about the religion you want talk about... you are judging a religion by what you just see in game which is stupid tbh.. just chill and play your game with no racist actions
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you people will never stop posting '' oh why they remove the paper on sand storm '' ? why you even make it a bigger deal ? just relax and play your game... btw the legit muslims in CF same like you.. we all dont like to see mohamed and ahmed and all these names in CF and using hack..it make us mad just like you but for us we wont go and insult the hacker religion lul
Lol who's insulting your religion and whereabouts? Do you think equal treatment is an insult? Example: Having "allah is one" bannable like saying he doesn't exist is bannable?
Don't you think that is fair? Keep all religious promotion or lack of it out the game? or allow both?and you are going a bit too far with all this.. about the paper that is written in arabic we are not saying we dont want any arabic letters in game. just dont write our god's name in just a GAME
"Allah is one" - We don't want our gods name in game
before you talk about islam and other religion.. just make a search and read some stuff about the religion you want talk about... you are judging a religion by what you just see in game which is stupid tbh.. just chill and play your game with no racist actions
I've read about all religions probably more so than you and whenever you hear anything you don't like it's "oh you don't understand", "oh you need to learn", "that is out of context".
Nobody is judging your religion on that basis. Worldwide Islam is a pushy religion. If you want examples free free to ask...
And if we are judging it on any basis it would be that an illiterate prophet was given the task of being gods messenger then when to heaven on a flying horse. That is quiet unbelieveable in itself.
Then on your laws, behaviour and how muslims really do expect double standards and think everything is an insult and how they get worked up about insignificant things whilst ignoring real problems. -
It is a nice deflection though I suppose. To save you thinking more deeply or telling us why exactly they should be offended at hearing something contrary to their beliefs without it being an insult.
Why?
Why is not for us to decide.
It is the person being offended who decides where the line is drawn - and if we have the ability to go back and reduce that in a harmless way, certainly we as humans should.I've read about all religions probably more so than you
You didn't seem to know that the words can't touch the ground.
That might have been a general "I don't understand" comment though, so benefit of the doubt and all that. -
Why?
Why is not for us to decide.
It is the person being offended who decides where the line is drawn - and if we have the ability to go back and reduce that in a harmless way, certainly we as humans should.
Well it is for us to decide, because when you are saying you can't express your beliefs of there being no god because someone else gets their feelings hurt and gets offended when they shouldn't be, then that is a problem.
Tbh it doesn't really matter if they do get offended, baseball caps may offend some but when a company like Z8 endorses one and not the other that is discrimination. That is the bottom line.You didn't seem to know that the words can't touch the ground.
That might have been a general "I don't understand" comment though, so benefit of the doubt and all that.
Maybe but they are on a monitor not the floor
And since we do non believers have to adopt any religious laws?
Like the poster commented if you don't like hackers leave, well that could apply to this issue too. -
Lol who's insulting your religion and whereabouts? Do you think equal treatment is an insult? Example: Having "allah is one" bannable like saying he doesn't exist is bannable?
Don't you think that is fair? Keep all religious promotion or lack of it out the game? or allow both?
"Allah is one" - We don't want our gods name in game
I've read about all religions probably more so than you and whenever you hear anything you don't like it's "oh you don't understand", "oh you need to learn", "that is out of context".
Nobody is judging your religion on that basis. Worldwide Islam is a pushy religion. If you want examples free free to ask...
And if we are judging it on any basis it would be that an illiterate prophet was given the task of being gods messenger then when to heaven on a flying horse. That is quiet unbelieveable in itself.
about the '' allah is one '' who ever said i like someone to say it in public ? like i said in other thread.. someone saying '' allah is one '' or '' allah yok '' both get kicked without even talking first.. religions must have nothing to do with a GAME which made for fun and making friends..
and if you really read about islam religion.. like dot said you should know its quite bad to put allah's name on the ground or even the quran..
and ye Z8games should just ban more words.. and the prophet and the flying horse to the heaven ok you dont belive it then its all fine everyone have his own mind and everyone feel free to think but keep you own thoughts to your self please. everyone free but dont attack others with your opinion
and yet.. i see on the facebook many people went really mad after z8games said they are going to remove the paper i mean dafuq o: why you people so mad ? if there was anything that attacks your religion [ if you have ] we would stick with you and others and ask to remove it.. we wouldnt go and post some racist sh1t on other grounds just understand what i said and you will be totally ok -
Well they don't get kicked equally in fact if you spam "allah is one" they'll keep you I tried it.
But I'm glad you agree that relgion should be kept out the game.
I'm also pleased to hear you would defend other relgions or lack there of.
Maybe you could tell Z8 in a support ticket to adopt an even handed approach to religion and make it bannable to promote any religion or lack there of.
That would solve the problem fairly IMO and only allow for proper chat. -
Well it is for us to decide, because when you are saying you can't express your beliefs of there being no god because someone else gets their feelings hurt and gets offended when they shouldn't be, then that is a problem.
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You do see the difference between a believer declaring "I think God is real" and a non-believer saying "No he's not", right?
One is a declaration of faith, albeit extremely irrelevant in-game but something they've formed the habit of doing just the same.
The other is intended to if not offend then at least provoke no matter how you spin it.
I'm horrible at comparisons but something like someone saying "I'm pretty" and someone replying "No you're ugly".
While the first might be true, or the reply, it's the reply that's insulting, not the declaration. -
Well they don't get kicked equally in fact if you spam "allah is one" they'll keep you I tried it.
But I'm glad you agree that relgion should be kept out the game.
I'm also pleased to hear you would defend other relgions or lack there of.
Maybe you could tell Z8 in a support ticket to adopt an even handed approach to religion and make it bannable to promote any religion or lack there of.
That would solve the problem fairly IMO and only allow for proper chat.
so i guess i made my point here nothing else to talk about.. trust me talking about religions and fighting about it will ruin everything around you... -
Why did this get moved to off topic...
And dot, how is it fair for people who are Christians to be unable to type the word jesus/god when the middle east can type allah? That's a pretty big insult to those of us who are Christians... One religion is allowed to be expressed in a game, whereas another is denied. Amazing. -
Because it suddenly had very little to do with Crossfire specifically but was a discussion worth having, so close or move, I opted for move.Why did this get moved to off topic...
And dot, how is it fair for people who are Christians to be unable to type the word jesus/god when the middle east can type allah? That's a pretty big insult to those of us who are Christians... One religion is allowed to be expressed in a game, whereas another is denied. Amazing.
It's not fair, Allah should be censored too to avoid even more conflict, in fact chat shouldn't be in the game at all, but I certainly didn't create the censor list so you won't get a good answer from me. -
Of course they seem to care more about the foreigners because they are the reason CFNA is still up and running. They're buying hundreds of thousands of zp daily, and there's far more of them logging far more hours of game time than us. They make the game popular and are the reason we have lots o updates and etc.
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It's not about the ZP when it comes to MENA region. They care about them simply because of their ENORMOUS player base, even if it means that player base is ruining their game. You see FPS games like this are really competitive about their numbers to show their "success" within the company, so that means more players at any cost!
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how is it fair for people who are Christians to be unable to type the word jesus/god when the middle east can type allah? One religion is allowed to be expressed in a game, whereas another is denied. Amazing.
great point.
the answer: because this is CF Egypt now, not cfna -
Why did this get moved to off topic...
And dot, how is it fair for people who are Christians to be unable to type the word jesus/god when the middle east can type allah? That's a pretty big insult to those of us who are Christians... One religion is allowed to be expressed in a game, whereas another is denied. Amazing.
Jesus and Christ were both being used as curses.
It is sad that the Lord's name is censored not because of religion but because of the other use. Afaik thus Allah is not a curse word and remians.
I also find it totally frustrating when being spammed Allah blah blah when I cannot say merry Christmas . Oh well -
I also find it totally frustrating when being spammed Allah blah blah when I cannot say merry Christmas . Oh well
This^^.
It is only fair that the word 'Allah' get censored aswell. I don't like seeing 5-10 players spamming the word 'Allah' in the lobby or in-game. It can be very annoying.
Would someone like me spamming the word 'God' or 'Christ' throughout the game? I think not... -
Why did this get moved to off topic...
And dot, how is it fair for people who are Christians to be unable to type the word jesus/god when the middle east can type allah? That's a pretty big insult to those of us who are Christians... One religion is allowed to be expressed in a game, whereas another is denied. Amazing.
God isn't censored but Jesus is. Also to note that Mohammad is censored but Allah isn't.
Reason?
Both Jesus and Mohammad are prophets while God and Allah are Gods. So technically it is fair. Although the spamming of Allah is getting real old and stupid. -
They did the same with swastikas in that GM map, they removed them after complaints along with some quotes from hitler on the exit screen, it has nothing to do with them being arab or muslim, it just has to do with things that are offensive, i doubt that there are many jewish people that play this game, yet they still removed those offensive symbols, you are making this about a certain ethnic group when any business in their right mind would have solved the issue just the way they did and just as quickly.God isn't censored but Jesus is. Also to note that Mohammad is censored but Allah isn't.
Reason?
Both Jesus and Mohammad are prophets while God and Allah are Gods. So technically it is fair. Although the spamming of Allah is getting real old and stupid.
Jesus is not a prophet, he is God in the image of man.. -
Thehenkieman wrote: »People hack because their religion tells them to?
Are you surprised ?
People use religion as an excuse to bomb / kill / tortue / enslave / etc .
So hacking why not my (insert Devine being here ) told me the enemy is evil and to make then pay with any means necessary.
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