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  • it is my personal religious opinion

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    good luck with your israel goals of 2014
  • dzoser wrote: »
    its like you saying its ok to steal a dollar from someone because he have so many!

    What you're talking about is utter bull crap, the Jews never stole the land

    First of all, The origin Jew means Judah, and where was Judah? oh right Israel.

    Now look at Jewish claim to the land: Common knowledge -
    The Jews have been recognized with the western wall
    tangible objects - in the arch of titus, that was built in 70 CE showed a menorah, is that a coincidence?
    Personal observation - Josephus Flavioius - A roman scholar that wrote about the Jews living in Israel
    Documents - In 1920's al-Harahm Al-sharif (the manuscripts) acknowledged the temple mount with the jews

    from a Egyptian Stelee Jews were recognized as a nation in Cana'aan. As of that we know that Israelites have a history going back before 1200 BCE

    Arabs, people who lived in the Arab peninsula goes as far back as 853 BCE,

    now the interesting part

    Palestine, which came from the Phillistines, came in the 7th century

    Palestina in the roman era and Filastin comes later, in the 10th century


    now what's your job? Stop being so ignorant and learn facts about the middle-east

    This actually disgusts me
  • aKnelp wrote: »
    What you're talking about is utter bull crap, the Jews never stole the land

    First of all, The origin Jew means Judah, and where was Judah? oh right Israel.

    Now look at Jewish claim to the land: Common knowledge -
    The Jews have been recognized with the western wall
    tangible objects - in the arch of titus, that was built in 70 CE showed a menorah, is that a coincidence?
    Personal observation - Josephus Flavioius - A roman scholar that wrote about the Jews living in Israel
    Documents - In 1920's al-Harahm Al-sharif (the manuscripts) acknowledged the temple mount with the jews

    from a Egyptian Stelee Jews were recognized as a national in Cana'aan. As of that we know that Israelites have a history going back before 1200 BCE

    Arabs, people who lived in the Arab peninsula goes as far back as 853 BCE,

    now the interesting part

    Palestine, which came from the Phillistines, came in the 7th century

    Palestina in the roman era and Filastin comes later, in the 10th century


    now what's your job? Stop being so ignorant and learn facts about the middle-east

    This actually disgusts me

    wanna date
  • Fast_wind wrote: »
    wanna date

    sure, just give me your phone number so I can text you every 5 minutes and then wonder why you aren't responding, then call you an ass for doing nothing and finally, break up ;P
  • You would think they would delete the thread since it's discriminatory in nature and ban him. Even if it was the softly softly biased approach you would think the mod would say "look either accept the responses or your thread will be closed" and infract him anyway.

    I wonder if someone posted that about Egyptians how many years would they be banned, would they even be unbanned?

    I suppose this will be edited? o.0

    People like me, lmao.
    My threads got deleted and I got like 3-4 infractions, even one for talking 'egy' which other people do and don't get an infraction.
    Z8.ftw
  • Egyptoin Good Pepole

    You are why we hate the Egyptians are good people too if you did not Tashrna Ashrtna would like us you just hear us speak only abuser and I love good to everyone Crown hate one ever hated, and I continued to look at it and directed it and your freedom
  • for aKnelp <sorry if this will be longest post in forum history>

    Here is what real archeologists found:
    "British archaeologist Michael Rice (who worked for decades in the Arab world) concludes that the efforts of Israeli archaeologists and their European and American colleagues “have produced nothing of proven archaeological value” that demonstrates that the Israelites were ever in Palestine (Rice 1994, 114). In addition to the lack of archaeological evidence for David or Solomon (in the ardently excavated levels of Jerusalem) or for Moses, the captivity in Egypt, or the Exodus, one also finds that the great Biblical events left no trace in the annals of the Egyptians and the Babylonians (Rice 1994, 114-116).
    Even in side the Zionist state, and it "academic institution", for example, Tel Aviv University Professor of Archaeology Ze’ev Herzog’s research on the Canaanite cities in the Late Bronze Age shed more light on how Zionist ideology influences the interpretation of archaeology because the latter “served as a tool in building a national identity of modern Israelis.” He argued that “a thorough examination of the archaeological findings free of preconception displays that the city of the Late Bronze Age is essentially different from the Canaanite city as it was presented, and is still presented, by historians, Biblical scholars and archaeologists” (Herzog 2003). He summed up the major archaeological findings of 70 years of intensive excavations in Palestine:
    “The patriarchs’ acts are legendary, the Israelites did not sojourn in Egypt or make an exodus, they did not conquer the land. Neither is there any mention of the empire of David and Solomon, nor of the source of belief in the God of Israel. These facts have been known for years, but Israel is a stubborn people and nobody wants to hear about it” (Herzog 1999).
    Commenting on Herzog’s findings, Tel Aviv University Professor of Archaeology Israel Finkelstein noted that “today more than 90% of scholars agree that there was no Exodus from Egypt” (Finkelstein 2004)."

    Please check out a great book by Basem Ra'ad called Hidden History.

    but lets follow some of the myths and fabricated history-line, which the Zionists themselves use to steal our land and history

    B.C.

    600,000-10,000 B.C.

    Paleolithic and Mesolithic period. Earliest human remains in the area, found south of Lake Tiberias, dated to circa 600,000 B.C.

    10,000-5,000 B.C.
    Neolithic period. Establishment of settled agricultural communities.

    5,000-3,000 B.C.
    Chalcolithic period. Copper and stone tools and artifacts. Remains from this period found near Jericho, Beersheba, and the Dead Sea.

    3,000-2,000 B.C.
    Early Bronze Age. Arrival and settlement of Canaanites (3,000-2,500 B.C.).

    ca. 1,250 B.C.
    Israelite conquest of Canaan.

    965-928 B.C.
    King Solomon. Construction of the temple in Jerusalem.

    928 B.C.
    Division of Israelite state into the kingdoms of Israel and Judah.

    721 B.C.
    Assyrian conquest of the kingdom of Israel.

    586 B.C.
    Judah defeated by Babylonians under Nebuchadnezzar. Deportation of its population to Babylon; destruction of the temple.

    539 B.C.
    Persians conquer Babylonia. Some Jews allowed to return. Construction of a new temple.

    333 B.C.
    Conquest of Persia by Alexander the Great brings Palestine under Greek rule.

    323 B.C.
    Death of Alexander leads to alternate rule by Ptolemies of Egypt and Seleucids of Syria.

    165 B.C.
    Maccabees revolt against the Seleucid ruler Antiochus Epiphanes and go on to establish independent Jewish state.

    63 B.C.
    Incorporation of Palestine into the Roman Empire.


    A.D.

    70
    Destruction of the Second Temple by Roman Emperor Titus.

    132-135
    Bar Kokhba revolt suppressed. Jews barred from Jerusalem and Emperor Hadrian builds new pagan city of Aelia Capitolina on its ruins.

    330-640
    Palestine under Byzantine rule: Jerusalem and Palestine increasingly Christianized.

    638
    Arabs under the Caliph 'Umar capture Palestine from Byzantines.

    661-750
    Umayyad caliphs rule Palestine from Damascus. Dynasty descended from Umayya of Meccan tribe of Quraysh. Construction of Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem by Caliph 'Abd al-Malik (685-705). Construction of al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem by Caliph al-Walid I (705-715).

    750-1258
    'Abbasid caliphs rule Palestine from Iraq. Dynasty, founded by Abu al-' Abbas al-Saffah, who is descended from' Abbas, uncle of the Prophet.

    969
    Fatimid dynasty, claiming descent from the Prophet's daughter Fatima and her cousin
    'Ali, rule Palestine from Egypt. They proclaim themselves caliphs in rivalry to the' Abbasids.

    1071
    Saljuqs, originally from Isfahan, capture Jerusalem and parts of Palestine, which remains officially within the 'Abbasid Empire.

    1099-1187
    Crusaders establish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

    1187
    Kurdish general Saladin (Salah al-Din who was born in Takrit
    northern Iraq, the birth place of Saddam Hussein too), son of Ayyub, the sultan of Mosul, defeats Crusaders at Hittin in northern Palestine and recaptures Jerusalem. The Ayyubid dynasty rules Palestine from Cairo.

    1260
    Mamluks succeed Ayyubids, ruling Palestine from Cairo; defeat Mongols at Battle of 'Ayn Jalut near Nazareth.

    1291
    Mamluks capture final Crusader strongholds of Acre and Caesarea.

    1516-1917
    Palestine incorporated into the Ottoman Empire with its capital in Istanbul.

    1832-1840
    Muhammad 'Ali Pasha of Egypt occupies Palestine. Ottomans subsequently reassert their rule.

    1876-1877
    Palestinian deputies from Jerusalem attend the first Ottoman Parliament in Istanbul, elected under a new Ottoman Constitution.

    1878
    The first modern Zionist agricultural settlement of Petach Tiqwa established

    <i will talk later about zionism and its impact on palestinian people, as many forumers here think i am jew racist and try to compare situations that are different from each other in thier false labeling>

    1882-1903
    First wave of 25,000 Zionist immigrants enters Palestine, coming mainly from eastern Europe.

    1882
    Baron Edmond de Rothschild of Paris starts financial backing for Jewish settlement in Palestine.

    1887-1888
    Palestine divided by Ottomans into the districts (sanjaks) of Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre. The first was attached directly to Istanbul, the others to the wilayet of Beirut.

    1896
    Theodor Herzl, an Austro-Hungarian Jewish journalist and writer, publishes Der Judenstaat, advocating establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine or elsewhere.

    1896
    Jewish Colonization Association, founded in 1891 in London by German Baron Maurice de Hirsch, starts aiding Zionist settlements in Palestine.

    1897
    First Zionist Congress in Switzerland issues the Basle Program calling for the establishment of a
    "home for the Jewish people in Palestine." It also establishes the World Zionist Organization (WZO) to work to that end.

    1901
    Jewish National Fund (JNF) set up by fifth Zionist Congress in Basle to acquire land for WZO; land acquired by JNF to be inalienably Jewish, and exclusively Jewish labor to be employed on
    <i can talk more about zionist apartheid and racist quotes>

    1904-1914
    Second wave of about 40,000 Zionist immigrants increases Jewish population in Palestine to
    about 6% of total.
    Since the inception of Zionism it has been claiming that Palestinian was an empty country,
    <LOL>

    1909
    Establishment of the first kibbutz, based exclusively on Jewish labor. Tel Aviv founded north of Jaffa.

    1914
    World War I starts.

    1916
    30 January
    Husayn-McMahon correspondence between Sharif Husayn of Mecca (leader of the Arab Revolt against the Ottomans) and Sir Henry McMahon (British High Commissioner of Egypt) ends in agreement for postwar independence and unity of Arab provinces of Ottoman Empire.
    16 May
    Sykes-Picot Agreement secretly signed, dividing Arab provinces of Ottoman Empire between Britain and France. Agreement revealed by Bolsheviks in December 1917.
    June
    Sharif Husayn proclaims Arab independence from Ottomans. Arab Revolt against Istanbul begins.

    1917
    2 November
    Balfour Declaration. British Secretary of State Balfour pledges British support for
    "a Jewish national home in Palestine."
    <i can explain what is balfour declaration if u dont know>

    1918
    September
    Palestine occupied by Allied forces under British General Allenby.

    30 October
    World War I ends.
    1919-1923
    Third wave of over 35,000 Zionist immigrants increases Jewish population in Palestine to 12% of total. Registered Jewish landownership (1923) totals 3% of area of country.

    1919
    27 January-10 February
    First Palestinian National Congress in Jerusalem sends memoranda to Paris Peace Conference rejecting Balfour Declaration and demanding independence.
    28 August
    Paris Peace Conference sends Commission of Inquiry to Near East, led by U.S. commission members Henry C. King and Charles Crane. England and France decline to participate. Commission recommends "serious modification" of idea of "making Palestine distinctly a Jewish Commonwealth."

    1920
    April
    Disturbances in Palestine; 5 Jews killed, 200 wounded. British appoint Palin Commission of Inquiry .Commission report attributes troubles to none fulfillment of promises of Arab independence and fear of political and economic consequences of Zionism.
    25 April
    Palestine Mandate assigned to Britain by Supreme Council of San Remo Peace Conference.
    May
    British prevent Second Palestinian National Congress from convening.
    1 July
    High Commissioner, Sir Herbert Samuel, an Anglo-Jewish politician, inaugurates British civilian administration.
    December
    Third Palestinian National Congress, meeting in Haifa, elects Executive Committee, which remains in control of Palestinian political movement from 1920 to 1935.
    1921
    March
    Founding of the Haganah, the Zionists' illegal underground military organization.
    1 May
    Disturbances in Jaffa protesting large-scale Zionist immigration; 46 Jews killed, 146 wounded. British Haycraft Commission of Inquiry (October) attributes disturbances to fears of Zionist mass immigration.
    8 May
    Haj Amin al-Husayni appointed Multi of Jerusalem.
    May-June
    Fourth Palestinian National Congress, convening in Jerusalem, decides to send a Palestinian delegation to London to explain the Palestinian case against the Balfour Declaration.

    1922
    3 June
    British colonial secretary Winston Churchill issues White Paper excluding Transjordan from scope of Balfour Declaration. Ignoring political criteria, White Paper authorizes Jewish immigration according to
    "economic absorptive capacity" of the country.
    24 July
    League of Nations Council approves Mandate for Palestine.
    August
    Fifth Palestinian National Congress, meeting in Nablus, agrees to economic boycott of Zionists (see 1901 entry on JNF).
    October
    First British census of Palestine shows population of 757,182 -78% Muslim Arab, 11% Jewish, 9.6% Christian Arab. It is often claimed that Palestine was empty until Zionist
    Jews made the Palestinian desert bloom, <LOL>

    1923
    29 September
    British Mandate for Palestine comes officially into force.

    1924-1928
    Fourth wave of 67,000 Zionist immigrants, over 50% from Poland, increases Jewish population of Palestine to 16% of total. Registered Jewish landownership (1928) totals 4.2% of area of country.
    <i can provide a map illustrating Palestinian-Zionist landownership per district as of 1945>

    1925
    Revisionist Party, founded in Paris by Polish Zionist Vladimir Jabotinsky, demands establishment of Jewish state in Palestine and Transjordan and stresses military aspects of Zionism.
    October
    Sixth Palestinian National Congress convenes in Jaffa.
    1928
    June
    Seventh Palestinian National Congress convenes in Jerusalem.
    1929-1939
    Fifth wave of over 250,000 Zionist immigrants increases Jewish population in Palestine to 30% of total. Registered Jewish landownership (1939) totals 5.7% of area of country.

    1929
    August
    Riots arise out of dispute between Jews and Palestinians over claims to Wailing (Western) Wall in Jerusalem, a site holy to Muslims and Jews. In resulting clashes 133 Jews killed and 339 wounded, 116 Palestinians killed and 232 wounded, the latter mainly by British military .
    October
    General Palestinian conference meets in Jerusalem to formulate position on Wailing Wall controversy.
    1930
    14 January
    League of Nations appoints international commission to investigate legal status of Arabs and Jews at Wailing Wall.
    March
    British Shaw Palestinian Commission of Inquiry attributes 1929 disturbances to Palestinian fears of Jewish immigration
    "not only as a menace to their livelihood but as a possible overlord of the
    future."
    October
    British Hope-Simpson report on land settlement, immigration, and development in Palestine concludes that there is not sufficient agricultural land for substantially increased numbers of Jewish settlers.
    British Colonial Secretary , Lord Passfield, issues White Paper which takes note of views of Hope-Simpson and Shaw commissions of inquiry.

    1931
    Irgun Zvai Leumi (National Military Organization), Irgun or IZL for short, founded by Revisionist groups and dissidents from Haganah, advocates a more militant policy against Palestinians.
    Valdimir Jabotinsky is commander-in-chief.
    14 February
    British prime minister Ramsay MacDonald in a letter to Zionist leader Chaim Weizmann virtually retracts Passfield White Paper.
    18 November
    Second British census of Palestine shows population of 1,035,154-73% Muslim Arab, 16.9% Jewish, 8.6% Christian Arab.
    December
    Lewis French, British director of development for Palestine, publishes report on "landless Arabs," caused by Zionist colonization.
    1933
    14 July
    British Secretary of State issues statement on resettlement of Palestinian farmers displaced from land acquired by Zionists.

    1935
    October
    Revisionists quit World Zionist Organization (WZO) to form New Zionist Organization with aim of "liberating" Palestine and Transjordan.
    November
    Shaykh 'Izz al-Din al-Qassam, Muslim cleric from Haifa, leader of first Palestinian guerrilla group fighting British policy in Palestine, killed in action against British security forces.

    1936
    25 April
    Leaders of Palestinian political parties form Higher Arab Committee under Chairman Haj Amin al-Husseini.
    8 May
    Conference of Palestinian National Committees in Jerusalem calls for no taxation without representation. Great Rebellion begins.
    25 August
    Lebanese guerrilla leader Fawzi al-Qawuqji enters Palestine leading 150 volunteers from Arab countries to help fight British.
    11 November
    Royal Commission headed by Lord Peel arrives in Palestine.
    1937
    18 January
    Royal Commission leaves Palestine.
    April
    IZL/Irgun, linked to Revisionist movement under Ze'ev Jabotinsky, reorganizes and advocates armed attacks on Palestinians.
    7 July
    Royal (Peel) Commission report recommends partitioning Palestine into Jewish state comprising 33% of country including Haifa, Galilee, and coastal plain north of Isdud; Arab state in rest of country (to become part of Transjordan); and British mandatory enclaves including Jerusalem. Part of Palestinian population to be forcibly transferred, if necessary, from Jewish state,
    i can talk more about how deeply the concept of "transfer" (Ethnic Cleansing) is entrenched in the Zionist theology
    23 July
    Arab Higher Committee rejects Royal Commission proposal and demands independent unitary Palestine with protection of "legitimate Jewish and other minority rights" and the safeguarding of British interests. Rebellion intensifies.
    September
    Arab National Congress at Bludan, Syria, attended by 450 delegates from Arab countries, rejects partition proposal, demands end to Mandate, a stop to Zionist immigration, and prohibition of transfer of Palestinian lands to Zionist ownership.
    1 October
    British dissolve Arab Higher Committee and all Palestinian political organizations. Five Palestinian leaders deported. Haj Amin al-Husayni escapes to Lebanon.
    11 November
    British establish military courts to counter Palestinian rebellion.

    1938
    April-August
    IZL/Irgun bombings kill 119 Palestinians. Palestinian bombs and mines kill 8 Jews.
    June
    British officer Orde Wingate organizes Special Night Squads of British and Haganah personnel for operations against Palestinian villages.
    18 October
    British military commanders take over administration from district commissioners to help suppress rebellion. Reinforcements brought from England.
    19 October
    British recapture Old City of Jerusalem from Palestinian rebels.
    9 November
    Report of British Woodhead technical commission of inquiry (January-April 1938) declares impracticability of Royal Commission's partition proposal. British call for general conference on Palestine in London attended by Arabs, Palestinians, and Zionists.

    1939
    7 February
    London Conference starts.
    27 March
    London Conference ends without agreement.
    22-23 May
    British House of Commons votes 268 to 179 in favor of White Paper issued by Colonial Secretary of State Malcolm MacDonald. White Paper calls for conditional independence for unitary Palestinian state after ten years; admission of 15,000 Jewish immigrants annually into Palestine for five years, with immigration after that subject to "Arab acquiescence" ; protection of Palestinian land rights against Zionist acquisition. British official estimates of Palestinians killed or executed by British military and police during Arab Rebellion is over 2,000 for 1936 and 1938 alone.
    Total for all years is estimated at 3,500-4,000. About 500 Jews killed in same period.
    1 September
    World War 11 begins.
    October
    Stern Gang or Lochemay Herut Yisra'el (LEHI; "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel") formed by dissident IZL members led by Avraham Stern.

    1940-1945
    Arrival of over 60,000 Zionist immigrants, including 20-25,000 who have entered the country illegally (April 1939-December 1945), increases Jewish population in Palestine to 31% of total. Registered Jewish landownership rises to 6.0% of area of country.

    1940
    28 February
    Land Transfers Regulations, suggested by 1939 White Paper to protect Palestinian land rights against Zionist acquisition, enter into force.

    1942
    February
    Avraham Stern killed by British police. It should be noted that the Stern gang received extensive financial and military support from the Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy to terrorize the British Mandate in Palestine. <i can provide more on the subject>
    May
    Biltmore Conference in New York attended by Zionist leaders from U.S. and Palestine, urges that "Palestine be established as a Jewish commonwealth."

    1943
    November
    Five-year limit on Jewish immigration (expiring April 1944) extended so all 75,000 visas permitted in 1939 White Paper can be filled.

    1944
    January
    Stern Gang and IZL join to conduct terror campaign against British.
    6 November
    Stern Gang murders Lord Moyne, British resident minister of state, in Cairo.

    1945
    8 May
    End of World War in Europe.
    September
    Large-scale illegal Jewish immigration into Palestine resumes under Haganah control.
    13 November
    British foreign secretary Ernest Bevin issues White Paper announcing continued Jewish immigration into Palestine after exhaustion of 1939 White Paper quota.

    1946
    6 March
    Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, proposed in 1945 White Paper, arrives in Palestine.
    May
    Anglo-American Committee report estimates size of Jewish armed forces at around 61-69,000 people (Haganah: 58-64,000; IZL: 3-5,000; Stern:2-300) and declares "private armies" illegal. Recommends admission of 100,000 Jews into Palestine and abolition of Land Transfers Regulations.
    Palestinians strike in protest.
    11-12 June
    Arab League meeting in Bludan, Syria, adopts secret resolutions warning Britain and U .S. that disregard for Palestinian rights will damage their oil and commercial interests in Arab world.
    July
    British White Paper on terrorism in Palestine accuses Haganah of cooperating with IZL and Stern Gang in acts of sabotage and violence.
    22 July
    Ninety-one British, Palestinian, and Jewish civil servants and visitors killed when IZL blows up wing of King David Hotel in Jerusalem housing British government secretariat.
    31 July
    Anglo-American Conference in London produces Morrison-Grady Plan proposing federal scheme to solve Palestine problem. Zionist and Palestinian leaders reject the plan.


  • 1947

    26 January
    London Round Table conference reopens.
    7-10 February
    British foreign secretary Ernest Bevin proposes variant of Morrison-Grady Plan to London Conference and Jewish Agency. Arab delegates in London and Jewish Agency reject proposal.
    18 February
    Bevin announces submission of Palestine problem to United Nations.
    28 April-15 May
    UN General Assembly special session on Palestine problem leads to appointment of eleven-member Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP).
    8 September
    Publication of UNSCOP report. Majority of members recommends partition, minority recommends federal solution.
    16-19 September
    Arab League denounces UNSCOP partition recommendation, and appoints Technical Military Committee to supervise Palestinian defense needs.
    26 September
    Arthur Creech Jones, British colonial secretary, announces Britain's decision to end Palestine Mandate.
    29 September
    Arab Higher Committee rejects partition.
    2 October
    Jewish Agency accepts partition.
    7-15 October
    Arab League meets at Aley, Lebanon. Iraqi General Isma'il Safwat, chairman of Technical Committee, warns of dangers posed by Zionism at end of Mandate and urges Arab states to
    mobilize their utmost force and efforts to counter Zionist intentions." One million pounds sterling allocated to Technical Military Committee.
    29 October
    Britain says it will leave Palestine in six months if no settle-ment reached.
    27 November
    Report by Safwat warns of virtual impossibility of overcoming Zionist forces with irregulars; urges prompt Arab action in organizing military force; advocates training Palestinians to defend themselves.
    29 November
    UN General Assembly recommends variant of UNSCOP partition plan allocating 56.5% of Palestine to Jewish state and 43% to Arab state with international enclave around Jerusalem; 33 votes for, 13 against, 10 abstentions. Arab representatives walk out
    Arabs rejected the U.N. partition plan
    30 November
    Haganah calls up Jews in Palestine aged 17-25 to register for military service.
    December
    Arab League organizes Arab Liberation Army (ALA), a voluntary force of Arab irregulars under guerrilla leader Fawzi al-Qawuqji to help Palestinians resist partition.
    2 December
    Palestinians start three-day strike protesting UN Partition Resolution.
    Intercommunal clashes leave 8 Jews and 6 Palestinians dead.
    8 December
    Britain recommends to UN that Palestine Mandate be terminated on 15 May 1948 and independent Jewish and Palestinian states be established two weeks later.
    8-17 December
    Arab League Political Committee meeting in Cairo declares partition illegal and resolves to provide 10,000 rifles, 3,000 volunteers (including 500 Palestinians) and a further 1,000,000 pounds sterling to Technical Military Committee.
    15 December
    British announce intention to hand over policing in Tel Aviv-Petach Tiqwa area to Jews and in Jaffa to Palestinians.
    17 December
    Jewish Agency Executive reports that American Jews will be asked for $250 million to help Jewish community in Palestine.
    21 December-late March 1948
    Haganah and IZL attack villages and Bedouin settlements of coastal plain north of Tel Aviv in first coastal "clearing" operation.
    31 December
    Haganah and IZL paramilitary gangs perpetrate Balad al-Shaykh (Haifa) massacre, in which more than 60 civilians are murdered.

    December 1947-January 1948
    Arab Higher Committee organizes 275 local committees for defense of Palestinian towns and villages.
    1948



    January
    Palestinian guerrilla leader 'Abdal-Qadir al-Husayni secretly returns to Palestine after ten-year exile to organize resistance to partition.
    8 January
    First contingent of 330 ALA volunteers arrives in Palestine.
    10 January
    ALA assault on Jewish settlement of Kefar Szold repulsed with help of British.
    14 January
    Haganah concludes arms deal with Czechoslovakia for $12,280,000 worth of arms including 24,500 rifles, 5,000 light machine guns, 200 medium machine guns, 54 million rounds of ammunition, 25 Meserschmitts. By end of Mandate at least 10,740 rifles, 1,200 machine guns, 26 field guns, and 11 million rounds of ammunition arrive in Palestine. Rest of arms arrive by end of May.
    16 January
    British report to UN estimates 1,974 people killed or injured in Palestine from 30 November 1947-10 January 1948.
    20 January
    British administration announces that predominantly Jewish or Palestinian areas will be gradually handed over to local majority group in every area concerned.
    21 and 28 January
    Second and third contingents of 360 and 400 ALA irregulars arrive in Palestine.
    January-March
    JNF leaders encourage evictions from villages of Haifa area Haganah attacks villages near Lake al-Hula. Palmach attacks Negev Bedouin.
    16 February
    ALA mounts unsuccessful attack on Jewish settlement of Tirat Zvi north of Baysan.
    18 February
    Haganah calls up men and women aged 25-35 for military service.
    24 February
    U.S. delegate to UN says Security Council role should be to keep peace in Palestine, not enforce partition. Syrian delegate suggests appointing committee to explore possible Jewish Agency-Arab Higher Committee agreement.
    March
    Transjordanian prime minister Tawfiq Abu al-Huda secretly meets British foreign secretary Bevin.
    They agree that Transjordanian forces will enter Palestine at end of Mandate but will restrict themselves to area of Arab state outlined in partition Plan.
    i can prove wrong the Zionist claim that seven Arab armies attempt to annihilate
    the newly emerging "Jewish State"

    5-7 March
    Qawuqji enters Palestine and assumes command of ALA units in Jinin-Nablus-Tulkarm triangle within area allotted to Arab state.
    6 March
    Haganah declares general mobilization.
    10 March
    British House of Commons votes to end Mandate on 15 May. Plan Dalet finalized by Haganah. Plan provides for military conquest of area allotted by UN Partition Plan to Jewish state and of substantial Palestinian territories beyond this state's boundaries. Plan contains a series of interlocking operations.
    18 March
    President Truman secretly receives Chaim Weizman and pledges support for declaration of Jewish state on May 15.
    19-20 March
    U.S. delegate asks UN Security Council to suspend action on partition plan and to convene General Assembly special session to work on a trusteeship plan. Arabs accept limited trusteeship and truce if Jews also accept. Jewish Agency rejects trusteeship.
    25 March
    President Truman calls for immediate truce and says U.S. will share responsibility for temporary trusteeship.
    30 March-15 May
    Second coastal "clearing" operation carried out by Haganah Alexandroni brigade and other units. Attacks and expulsions drive out almost all Palestinian communities from coastal area from Haifa to Jaffa prior to British withdrawal.
    1 April
    Delivery of first consignment of Czech arms deal: Ship "Nora" arrives in Haifa from Yugoslavia with 4,500 rifles, 200 light machine guns, 5 million rounds of ammunition. Two hundred rifles, 400 machine guns and further ammunition ferried in by airplane. UN Security Council resolutions call for special session of General Assembly and agree to U.S. proposal for truce to be arranged through Jewish Agency and Arab Higher Committee.
    4 April
    Haganah launches Plan Dalet.
    4-15 April
    Battle of Mishmar ha-'Emeq: ALA repulsed by Haganah from Jewish settlement of Mishmar ha-'Emeq. Haganah, Carmeli, Alexandroni, and Palmach units occupy villages in Marj ibn 'Amir.
    6-15 April
    Operation Nachshon: In first operation of Plan Dalet Haganah Giv'ati Brigade and other units capture villages along Tel Aviv-Jerusalem road from local Palestinian militia.
    8 April
    'Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni, charismatic Palestinian militia commander, Jerusalem district, is killed leading counterattack to recover al-Qastal village.
    9 April
    IZL and Stern Gangs massacre some 250 inhabitants in village of Dayr Yasin near Jerusalem.
    12 April
    General Zionist Council decides to establish independent state in Palestine on 16 May.
    13-20 April
    Operation Har'el under Plan Dalet launched at conclusion of Operation Nachshon. Villages along Jerusalem road attacked and demolished. All subsequent Haganah operations until 15 May 1948 undertaken within framework of Plan Dalet.
    15 April-25 May
    Operation Yiftach: Palmach captures Safad from ALA and local militia (9-10 May). Attacks and psychological warfare used to empty villages of eastern Galilee and Galilee panhandle. Operation Matate(Broom) drives out Bedouin and villagers from area south of Rosh Pinna to Jordan River.
    16-17 April
    Haganah Golani brigade and Palmach units capture Tiberias as it is evacuated by British. Palestinian inhabitants flee.
    17 April
    Security Council resolution calls for military and political truce.
    20 April
    U.S. submits Palestine trusteeship plan to UN.
    21 April
    Operation Misparayim (meaning scissor): British forces suddenly withdraw from Haifa precipitating all-out Haganah dawn offensive against city's Palestinian population. Offensive accompanied by heavy mortar shelling of Palestinian residential quarters.
    22 April
    Resistance of local Palestinian militia in Haifa collapses. Haifa's Palestinian population flees under combined Haganah shelling and ground offensives.
    25 April
    IZL starts massive mortar shelling of Jaffa's residential quarters; simultaneously launches ground offensive to cut off northern Manshiyeh quarter from rest of city.
    26-30 April
    Haganah Har'el and Etzioni brigades launch Operation Yevussi in and around Jerusalem; attack East Jerusalem residential quarter of Shaykh Jarrah but are forced to hand it over to British; capture West Jerusalem residential district of Qatamon from Palestinian irregulars. Flight of Palestinian inhabitants.
    27 April-5 May
    Operation Chametz: Haganah launches major ground offensive against eastern Jaffa suburbs and neighboring villages to cut off city from its hinterland. Some 50,000 civilians flee under combined IZL and Haganah attacks.
    30 April
    All Palestinian quarters in West Jerusalem occupied by Haganah and residents driven out.
    1 May
    The Zionists forces occupied and massacred more than 70 civilians from 'Ayn al-Zaytun (Safad).
    3 May
    175-200,000 Palestinian refugees reported to have fled from areas taken by Zionists.
    8-16 May
    Haganah Har'el and Giv'ati brigades undertake Operation Makkabi. Capture villages on al-Ramla-Latrun road.
    9 May-1 June
    Operation Barak: Strikes by Haganah Giv'ati and Negev brigades south and West of al-Ramla.
    10-15 May
    Golani brigade occupies Baysan, attacks villages of Baysan Valley south of Lake
    Tiberias.
    12-14 May
    Arrival of second and third Czech arms consignments for Haganah: 5,000 rifles, 1,200 machine guns, 6 million rounds of ammunition.
    13 May
    Arab Legion, ALA, and local militia attack and capture Jewish settlements of Etzion bloc, retaliating for attacks on Hebron road. Jaffa formally surrenders to Haganah.
    13-21 May
    Operation Ben-Ami: Carmeli brigade occupies Acre and coastal area north of city .
    14 May
    Haganah launches Operation Qilshon (Pitchfork), occupying strategic areas in Jerusalem evacuated by British and taking Palestinian residential quarters outside Old City from Arab irregulars.Haganah launches Operation Schfifon to take Old City of Jerusalem.

    State of Israel proclaimed in Tel Aviv at 4:00 P.M.

    President Truman recognizes state of Israel.
    15 May
    British Mandate ends. Declaration of State of Israel comes into effect.
    15-17 May
    Lebanese regulars cross border and temporarily retake villages of Malikiyya and Qadas from
    Haganah, but are forced out of fortress of Nabi Yusha'.
    15-28 May
    Transjordanian Arab Legion troops cross River Jordan and move towards Jerusalem capturing Jewish settlements of Atarot and Newe Ya'aqov north of city (17 May). In Jerusalem, Legion retakes Shaykh Jarrah quarter (16 May), fails to capture stronghold in Notre Dame monastery (17-25 May), and takes control of Jewish Quarter of Old City (28 May).
    On the 23th of May 1948, al-Tantura was perpetratedagainst 250 civilians and POWs.
    15 May-4 June
    Iraqi units cross Jordan River, are repulsed from Crusader fortress of Belvoir , and
    besiege settlement of Gesher for a week. Iraqi regulars move into Nablus-Jinin- Tulkarm triangle 24 May). Haganah advances on Jinin, evicting villagers (28-31 May); it attacks and briefly occupies Jinin before being repulsed (3-4 June).
    15 May-7 June
    Egyptian regular troops cross border, move up coast to Isdud and capture Jewish settlements of Yad Mordechai (24 May) and Nitzanim (7 June) in Negev. Another column of Egyptian irregulars moves to Bethlehem linking up with Arab Legion. In battle with IDF (21-25 May), Jewish settlement of Ramat Rachel south of Jerusalem changes hands several times and is finally retained by Jews.
    16 May-10 June
    Syrian columns advance over border and temporarily capture Jewish settlement of Zeniach (18-20 May), are repulsed from twin settlements of Degania (20 May), and capture settlement of Mishmar ha-Yarden (10 June). Syrians, Lebanese, and ALA recapture Malikiyya
    (6 June).
    16-30 May
    IDF Operation Ben-Nun: Israeli Sheva' and other brigades fail to capture al-Latrun from Arab Legion in attempt to open Jaffa-Jerusalem road, but occupy villages in vicinity.
    20 May
    UN Security Council appoints Count Folke Bernadotte as its mediator in Palestine.
    22 May
    UN Security Council resolution calls for ceasefire.
    9-10 June
    IDF Operation Yoram, launched against Arab legion by Har'el and Yiftach brigades, fails to captureal-Latrun.
    11 June-8 July
    First Truce.
    28-29 June
    Count Bernadotte suggests economic, military, and political union of Transjordan and Palestine containing Arab and Jewish states: Negev and central Palestine to go to Arabs; Western Galilee to Jews; Jerusalem to be part of Arab state with administrative autonomy for Jews;Haifa and Jaffa to be free ports and Lydda free airport. Rejected by both sides.
    7 July
    Security Council calls for prolongation of truce.
    7-18 July
    IDF Operation Dani: Capture of Lydda and al-Ramla from local militia. Population of both cities expelled. Three or four IDF brigades occupy villages along Jerusalem-Jaffa road and cluster of villages east of Jaffa. Yiftach brigade's assault on Arab Legion in al-Latrun (17 July) ends with Second Truce.
    8-14 July
    IDF Operation Dekel: Carmeli and Sheva' brigades push east and south from Acre, capture Nazareth from ALA under Qawuqji and occupy Lower Galilee.
    8-11 July
    IDF Operation An-Far: Giv'ati brigade, moving against Egyptians, empties villages south of
    al-Ramla in an arc between Hebron hills and coast.
    9-18 July
    IDF Carmeli Brigade fails to recapture the Zionist settlement of Mishmar ha-Yarden, south of Lake Tiberias, that had been occupied by Syrian troops.
    15 July
    UN Security Council resolution calls on governments and authorities concerned to issue indefinite ceasefire orders to their forces in Palestine to take effect within three weeks.
    17 July
    IDF Operation Qedem against Old City of Jerusalem is repulsed.
    18 July-15 October
    Second Truce.
    24-26 July
    IDF Operation Shoter: Carmeli, Alexandroni, and Golani brigades attack and capture three villages of Little Triangle south of Haifa.
    16 August-end of September early October
    Negev and Yiftach brigades attack and expel Bedouins and inhabitants of villages in Negev.
    24-28 August
    IDF Operation Nikayon (Cleansing): Giv'ati Brigade occupies coastal area west of Yibna and north of Isdud.
    16 September
    Report by UN mediator Count Bernadotte proposes new partition of Palestine: Arab state to be annexed to Transjordan and to include Negev, al-Ramla and Lydda; Jewish state in all of Galilee; internationalization of Jerusalem; return and compensation of refugees. Rejected by Arab League and Israel.
    17 September
    UN mediator Count Bernadotte murdered in Jerusalem by Stern Gang. Replaced by his American deputy Ralph Bunche.
    15 October-9 November
    IDF Operations Yo'av and ha-Har: Negev, Giv'ati, and Yiftach units move against Egyptians to capture Beersheba, Isdud, Majdal, and coastal strip as far as Yad Mordechai, and villages of Hebron Hills. Har'el brigade captures southern Jerusalem corridor.
    29-31 October
    IDF Operation Hiram: Upper Galilee pocket, held by Qawuqji's forces, occupied and emptied by Giv'ati, Oded, and Sheva' brigade troops. Tens of thousands flee. Israeli forces move into southern Lebanon as far as Litani River.
    On the 29th of October 1948, the IDF commits the famous Safsaf(Safad) massacre in which more than 60 civilians are murdered.
    November
    IDF Har'el Brigade expels several communities in Jerusalem corridor along border with Transjordanian forces. 4 November UN Security Council resolution calls for withdrawal of forces to positions occupied prior to 14 October and establishment of permanent truce lines.
    Second week November-mid 1949
    IDF expels inhabitants from villages 5-15 km inside Lebanese border, followed by expulsions from other Galilee villages.
    22 December-6 January 1949
    Operation Horev launched to drive Egyptians out of southern coastal strip and Negev. Asluj and al-'Awja captured. Israeli troops move into Sinai until British pressure forces withdrawal. Golani and Har'el brigades attack on Rafah ended by ceasefire (7 January).
    27 December
    IDF Alexandroni brigade's attack on isolated Egyptian forces in Faluja pocket is repulsed.
    1949

    24 February
    Israeli-Egyptian Armistice: Egypt keeps coastal strip Gaza Rafah and evacuates Faluja pocket; Asluj-al-'Awja area demilitarized.
    End of February
    IDF units intimidate 2-3,000 villagers into leaving Faluja pocket in violation of Israeli-Egyptian Armistice Agreement.
    March
    IDF Negev and Golani brigades complete occupation of Negev as far as Umm Rashrash/Eilat.EGYPTIAN LAND you know [MOD]dot, everyone needs a coast, specially on the red sea!
    23 March
    Israeli-Lebanese Armistice: Frontier of Mandate Palestine accepted; Israel withdraws from most of Lebanese territory.
    3 April
    Israeli-Jordanian Armistice: Jordan takes over Iraqi-held Nablus-Jinin- Tulkarm triangle but is forced to cede area around Wadi 'Ara; Israel controls Chadera-'Afula road; existing status quo in Jerusalem accepted by IDF and Arab Legion.
    20 July
    Syrian-Israeli Armistice: demilitarized zones established around 'En Gev and Dardara (including Mishmar
    ha-Yarden).

    really i could keep going and going through history till this very day about the massacres and crimes of israel but i think ive said way way more than enough for one post,here is ur history lesson aKnelp,
  • some guy here posted a video link saying look what palestini children do out of bordem.. later on he discover they were pakistani, he removes the video, i lol'd, if u wanna make this a video contest im up for the challenge
    lReZ wrote: »
    typical brainwashed
    indeed
    RuSHadow92 wrote: »
    yes but scientologits/mormons/justin beiber fans don't have their own Language ,Culture, Mores, Holidays, God etc'
    do u know the ammount of languages in this world buddy? do u realize how many people have thier own culture holdiays and even gods yet dont have a country? get out of here!
    xiaofreaky wrote: »
    Including you.

    oh please don't break my heart love!
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    versus "I hate Jews"

    i never said i hate jews nor i hate jews.. it is not my fault that some ppls understanding is shallow and they just love to judge and stereotype
    Then in dosers thread about nationality he refuses to count an Israeli's nationality, says he must update it himself = Discrimination (And the rules clearly state you cannot discriminate based on country/nationality).

    He then went on to say Jews aren't a race, they have no religion and no principals (yes Jews not Israeli's), they run the world subjugating muslims, they are parasites and spread aids and disease in the sinai and much more and merely a few posts get deleted, mostly those explaining to him that it's racist and the moderator leaves the post in which he discriminates against the Israeli and lets the poll continue lol

    You would think they would delete the thread since it's discriminatory in nature and ban him. Even if it was the softly softly biased approach you would think the mod would say "look either accept the responses or your thread will be closed" and infract him anyway.

    I wonder if someone posted that about Egyptians how many years would they be banned, would they even be unbanned?

    I suppose this will be edited? o.0

    you clearly understand me wrong, i did not say "you must" i said "feel free" to do it, which is not discriminative, i have my reasons not to aknowledge the state of israel.

    i never said jews, funny u separate jews and israelis? so u know theyr different? cos they are!... i said "these ppl have no race" i never said "jews" and i was refering to zionists which are not a race

    i did not know they edit posts... thought they just delete it!
  • dzoser wrote: »
    i have my reasons not to aknowledge the state of israel.

    Well, you're going against most of the world, so go ahead and explain it if you want this thread kept open.
  • dzoser wrote: »
    you clearly understand me wrong, i did not say "you must" i said "feel free" to do it, which is not discriminative, i have my reasons not to aknowledge the state of israel.

    You said "I will not add you to my poll count because your from Israel and your nationality is Israel, you can do it yourself to keep the tally", whilst for everyone else I will keep a tally of what is effectively poll results.

    Forum rules state you cannot discriminate against a country / nationality. Israel is a country and the nationality is Israeli.

    Keep in mind what the rules and lets say I don't like Africans because they are from Africa and they are black or for what ever other reason then I crate a poll asking nationality's and then an Africa guy comes and says "Nigerian" then I refuse to add him to my tally because he is black/African but I tell him he can keep his own tally and update it. Is this discriminatory? Using your definition no it isn't.
    dzoser wrote: »
    i never said jews, funny u separate jews and israelis? so u know theyr different? cos they are!... i said "these ppl have no race" i never said "jews" and i was refering to zionists which are not a race

    And you also included the common conspiracy theory that Jews run the world, I guess you meant Zionists too?

    conspiracy_cat.jpg

    Anyway lets no derail this now. I just wanted to make a point.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Well, you're going against most of the world, so go ahead and explain it if you want this thread kept open.

    well there is many reasons,

    1 of them is i cannot go visit al aqsa mosque because of israel, even christians who want visit their holy sites must be brainwashed first, nothing in jerusalem of historical significance still standing but the wailing wall and the mosque, they will take the mosque down if they can, but they cant, they are wiping history making everything belong to them, from the land to even the football federation!
  • dzoser wrote: »
    they will take the mosque down if they can, but they cant

    Why would they want to take it down and where is the evidence that they would like to, however small?
  • and nooby, again, what i said was "i only recognize this land as palestine, so feel free to add ur country urself" dont try to stereoptype me as racist by using the "black" example or that i did anything discriminative, cos i am not and i didnt, and yes, i meant the zionists, the conspiracy is about zionists, its not about jews, please dont waste my time trying to prove ur point, and again, check neturi karta, i love this jews!
  • dzoser wrote: »
    and nooby, again, what i said was "i only recognize this land as palestine, so feel free to add ur country urself" dont try to stereoptype me as racist by using the "black" example or that i did anything discriminative, cos i am not and i didnt, and yes, i meant the zionists, the conspiracy is about zionists, its not about jews, please dont waste my time trying to prove ur point, and again, check neturi karta, i love this jews!

    I'm not interested in discussing that. Refer to the last post.

    What evidence do you have they want to destroy it?
  • dzoser wrote: »
    well there is many reasons,

    1 of them is i cannot go visit al aqsa mosque because of israel, even christians who want visit their holy sites must be brainwashed first, nothing in jerusalem of historical significance still standing but the wailing wall and the mosque, they will take the mosque down if they can, but they cant, they are wiping history making everything belong to them, from the land to even the football federation!

    God.. Alright.


    Why can't you? Why is it Israels fault?
    Why must Christians be brainwashed first? How does it work?
    Who decides what is of historical significance? What has been removed? What is still standing?
    Why would they take the Mosque down? Why can't they?
    What history are they wiping away? What have they taken?




    You see how difficult this issue is to discuss if you won't explain yourself properly and resort to emotions instead.
  • I'm not interested in discussing that. Refer to the last post.

    What evidence do you have they want to destroy it?

    they are slowly doing it, its their goal, they are constantly digging under the mosque,this way it will eventually fall, its systematic, because the mosque is located in the very same spot where they had their temple, and exactly where they want to build their new temple to complete their prophecy

    here is an article from an israily website maybe u understand what i mean
    http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/08/22/collapse-near-western-wall-of-al-aqsa-mosque/

    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    God.. Alright.

    You see how difficult this issue is to discuss if you won't explain yourself properly and resort to emotions instead.

    yes it is difficult, but i can answer all your questions, the posts will be longer than the history lesson i gave aKnelp
  • dzoser wrote: »
    they are slowly doing it, its their goal, they are constantly digging under the mosque,this way it will eventually fall, its systematic, because the mosque is located in the very same spot where they had their temple, and exactly where they want to build their new temple to complete their prophecy

    here is an article from an israily website maybe u understand what i mean
    http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/08/22/collapse-near-western-wall-of-al-aqsa-mosque/

    Don't you think if they wanted to demolish it they couldn't do something better than that? 2 small collapses in 5 years? The Zionists are slacking.

    The Zionists I'm sure could arrange a plane to accidentally crash there and demolish the mosque?

    Meanwhile there were more concerns over the mosque http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/172840#.Ux771Nx_tVU
    Numerous court rulings have stipulated that Jews must be permitted to pray on the Temple Mount as a basic right to freedom of religion. Nevertheless, the Israeli police force has repeatedly ignored the rulings, citing unspecified "security concerns" as a pretext to continue enforcing the ban.

    Police sometimes close the Mount to Jews altogether in response to Muslim riots - for days or weeks at a time - despite evidence that such violence is usually planned in advance for the specific purpose of forcing Jews out. Prominent Israeli MKs, such as Moshe Feiglin and Zeev Elkin, have been forced to leave the Temple Mount due to fears of violence.

    Arabs continuously accuse Israel of "Judaizing" the Temple Mount, sometimes resorting to ridiculous propaganda such as accusing Israel of using chemicals to erode the foundations of the mosque in order to cause it to collapse.

    At the same time the Waqf, which was left in charge of the Temple Mount after Israel liberated it during the 1967 Six Day War, consistently destroys Jewish antiquities on the compound in a direct violation of a ruling by the Supreme Court.

    So going on this article the Police even stop Jews praying there and the rest of the article is more scare mongering / conspiracy stuff etc
    Sheikh Yusuf Adeis - He warned that the Al-Aqsa mosque was in danger, adding that the day on which Muslims will wake up from their sleep and find the mosque gone is inching closer.

    Do you really believe this guy that a mosque is going to disappear overnight? Esp one that big lol. He's just trying to incite fear.
  • Don't you think if they wanted to demolish it they couldn't do something better than that? 2 small collapses in 5 years? The Zionists are slacking.

    The Zionists I'm sure could arrange a plane to accidentally crash there and demolish the mosque?

    Meanwhile there were more concerns over the mosque http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/172840#.Ux771Nx_tVU



    So going on this article the Police even stop Jews praying there and the rest of the article is more scare mongering / conspiracy stuff etc



    Do you really believe this guy that a mosque is going to disappear overnight? Esp one that big lol. He's just trying to incite fear.
    I question a source called "Israel National News" for evidence (or rather, lack of) of an Israeli conspiracy.
    "Ridiculous propaganda" doesn't really scream neutrality.

    I'm with nooby here, it'd be ezpz to blow the Mosque and blame a rogue Hamas missile if that was the goal.
    Chances are, it's an old building that - while Israel might not respect it as a Muslim holy place or whatever, simply isn't being maintained.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    I question a source called "Israel National News" for evidence (or rather, lack of) of an Israeli conspiracy.

    Well you can Google and find the same and similar things on clearly Muslim websites and the excerpts from the interview are valid and accurate. Besides Doser also quotes Israeli's websites.
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    "Ridiculous propaganda" doesn't really scream neutrality.

    Well what would you called the claim that Israeli's are using chemicals to demolish the mosque?
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    I'm with nooby here, it'd be ezpz to blow the Mosque and blame a rogue Hamas missile if that was the goal.

    Exactly. That mosque wouldn't be there if it was not wanted - Period.

    And I know Israel could and would do it if they wanted.
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Chances are, it's an old building that - while Israel might not respect it as a Muslim holy place or whatever, simply isn't being maintained.

    The article that I linked to states:
    At the same time the Waqf, which was left in charge of the Temple Mount after Israel liberated it during the 1967 Six Day War, consistently destroys Jewish antiquities on the compound in a direct violation of a ruling by the Supreme Court.

    "Today, the Old City is under Israeli control, but the mosque remains under the administration of the Jordanian/Palestinian-led Islamic waqf." SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque#Administration

    Waqf - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waqf
  • its not an easy task to destroy it and blame someone else or an accident, because its not like the world trade center for example, even tho people discovered the truth about that now, mainly the truth always appears

    some people are afraid from the dark, doesn't necessarily mean there is always something harmful in the dark, true that

    but some people are afraid from the truth, claiming that the people who say that dark alleys are dangerous, are just people who are trying to incite fear

    i wonder how can the mosque be under muslims administrations yet muslims are not allowed to pray in their own administered mosque... funny
  • dzoser wrote: »
    i wonder how can the mosque be under muslims administrations yet muslims are not allowed to pray in their own administered mosque... funny

    Muslims do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjgxl6l0ir8

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12n63h_thousand-of-muslims-pray-at-al-aqsa-on-quds-day_news

    I think your confusing the restrictions placed by the government on a wide range of people in including Jews with "Muslims are not allowed to pray there".
  • lol, you also forgot to say that 50,000 muslims prayed arround el-aqsa mosque back in 2012 on their holy "eid el adha" festival of sacrifice!

    does this mean muslims are allowed to pray in the mosque?

    NO

    no muslim man under 50 years of age is allowed inside the mosque>>> EVER
  • dzoser wrote: »

    <i will talk later about zionism and its impact on palestinian people, as many forumers here think i am jew racist and try to compare situations that are different from each other in thier false labeling>


    <i can talk more about zionist apartheid and racist quotes>


    Since the inception of Zionism it has been claiming that Palestinian was an empty country,
    <LOL>

    A LOT OF JUNK

    Balfour Declaration. British Secretary of State Balfour pledges British support for
    "a Jewish national home in Palestine."
    <i can explain what is balfour declaration if u dont know>


    <i can provide a map illustrating Palestinian-Zionist landownership per district as of 1945>

    First let me quote myself from another thread
    aKnelp wrote: »
    You're so ignorant to even realize that the palestinian's never even had their own state.

    Ancient times
    -egypt rules
    -Israel and Judah
    -babylonian rule

    classic era 538 - 636 BCE
    -persian rule
    -Hasmonean dynasty (Jews)
    -Roman rule

    Middle ages 636 - 1517
    -Arab rule
    -Crusades (christians)
    -Egyptian

    Ottoman rule 1517 - 1920
    -Turkish/whatever you want to call them
    -birth of zionism

    british mandate 1920-1948
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFmandate.html

    and my favourite part
    state of israel 1948 - present

    please tell me when the palestinian EVER ruled, had autonomy on the land that you so call 'palestine'

    I just told you what facts and proof was found, that proved Jews living in Israel and now you're saying some digger in the 1990's couldn't find proof? are you braindead?

    please talk about zionism, and in fact, you are being anti-Semitic, you even said so in your signature

    yes zionist apartheid, now show me were the UN claims that Israel is doing so, you want to know why those walls are built up? for security reasons, we tried to make peace, look at Oslo Accords, Camp David, You know what Israel got in return for attempting to make peace? STATISTICALLY MORE BOMBING/ EXTREME TERRORISM AS EXTREMIST DIDN'T THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE TO MAKE PEACE WITH ISRAEL, AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, In the records the PALESTINIAN leader WAS SUPPOSE TO STOP TERRORISM AND EDUCATE ABOUT PEACE, but wait what happened? he actually encouraged terrorism, and peace? whats peace? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etDb5tXPawc [8 minute video]

    and do you actually want to have a quotes war?
    if-the-arabs-were-to-put-down-their-arms-there-would-be-no-more-war.jpg

    I do know what the balfor declaration is

    and you're saying that the british allowed jews to come? are you high?
    MYTH
    “The British allowed Jews to flood Palestine while Arab immigration was tightly controlled.”

    FACT
    The British response to Jewish immigration set a precedent of appeasing the Arabs, which was followed for the duration of the Mandate. The British placed restrictions on Jewish immigration while allowing Arabs to enter the country freely. Apparently, London did not feel that a flood of Arab immigrants would affect the country’s absorptive capacity.

    During World War I, the Jewish population in Palestine declined because of the war, famine, disease and expulsion by the Turks. In 1915, approximately 83,000 Jews lived in Palestine among 590,000 Muslim and Christian Arabs. According to the 1922 census, the Jewish population was 84,000, while the Arabs numbered 643,000. 4 Thus, the Arab population grew exponentially while that of the Jews stagnated.

    In the mid-1920s, Jewish immigration to Palestine increased primarily because of anti-Jewish economic legislation in Poland and Washington’s imposition of restrictive quotas. 5

    The record number of immigrants in 1935 (see table) was a response to the growing persecution of Jews in Nazi Germany. The British administration considered this number too large, however, so the Jewish Agency was informed that less than one-third of the quota it asked for would be approved in 1936. 6

    The British gave in further to Arab demands by announcing in the 1939 White Paper that an independent Arab state would be created within 10 years, and that Jewish immigration was to be limited to 75,000 for the next five years, after which it was to cease altogether. It also forbade land sales to Jews in 95 percent of the territory of Palestine. The Arabs, nevertheless, rejected the proposal.

    Jewish Immigrants to Palestine 7
    1919 1,806










    1931
    4,075
    1920 8,223 1932 12,533
    1921 8,294 1933 37,337
    1922 8,685 1934 45,267
    1923 8,175 1935 66,472
    1924 13,892 1936 29,595
    1925 34,386 1937 10,629
    1926 13,855 1938 14,675
    1927 3,034 1939 31,195
    1928 2,178 1940 10,643
    1929 5,249 1941 4,592
    1930 4,944
    By contrast, throughout the Mandatory period, Arab immigration was unrestricted. In 1930, the Hope Simpson Commission, sent from London to investigate the 1929 Arab riots, said the British practice of ignoring the uncontrolled illegal Arab immigration from Egypt, Transjordan and Syria had the effect of displacing the prospective Jewish immigrants. 8

    The British Governor of the Sinai from 1922–36 observed: “This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.” 9

    The Peel Commission reported in 1937 that the “shortfall of land is . . . ​due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” 10



    and please show me the map, while ill go find the map the UN posted as the official map, which includes israel
  • I mean.. a quick read on wiki gives some perspective on the Mosque thing.




    How early 1900s immigration records relate is beyond me though, perhaps a short explanation?
  • well according to your stupid logic, israel belongs to egypt!

    what arab immigration are you talking about? arabs were already there, one does not immigrate to where he already lives!

    there is never gonna be peace as long as there is injustice..

    also my signature says i am semite myself, so i cant be anti-semetic, its sarcasm, braindead is 1 of ur features not mine, feel free to post ur propagnda for i am not bothered with u anymore, i like noobynob he actually discuss on the subject, somehow, lol

    OT: do not believe everything u read on wikipedia
  • dzoser wrote: »
    OT: do not believe everything u read on wikipedia

    Well Wikipedia is a more credible source than you, don't you think?
  • dzoser wrote: »
    OT: do not believe everything u read on wikipedia

    Wikipedia is a accurate and balanced source to get information from, for you or I.

    Of course anyone can edit Wikipedia but I'm sure you'll find any racism, bias, incorrect info is either removed or a citation is asked for.

    On the whole it's a decent source for information and learning, to say otherwise is plainly false.
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