Possible Tournament, let me know what you think

Hey Guys!

Its Konrad, and I thought of a new tournament for the pub scene.

A lot of debate has been going on lately on what the best pub clan is, and most of this has just sparked old conflicts and arguments. So why not settle this in a prolonged tournament, 5v5 SnD, on the most played maps.

Some of the things I'm interested in knowing, would you guys want to do a Round Robin, which usually takes a longer time, or a simple Single-Elimination/Double Elimination tournament, which can be over in as soon as 1 month.

Another thing I'm interested in is about how many clans would sign up for this, and how many would stay throughout the end. I know Veracity would sign up and stay, and so would In Theory, but I'm not sure about the rest of yall.

I would want this tournament to be fair for all, thats why I personally favor the double-round-robin option, where everyone plays eachother twice and the winner is shown through the standings, but if a lot of people want to do this a different way, then that would be up to them.

Note: Bandicam/Fraps/Growler will be used, and you will have to record at atleast 10fps/10q.

Furthermore, I dont want anyone getting excited as this is the wee planning stages and probably wont start up until August.

So, in short, just use this format to reply to the thread:

1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
-answer
2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
-answer
3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
-answer
4) Which maps would you want to play on?
-answer
5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
-answer
6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
-answer
7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
-answer

And any other comments you might have!
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  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    Yes
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    Double round robin, lets everyone play their best
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    8 or 10, one of these
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    All the WCG maps, and some favorites
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    5k ZP/player; maybe
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    n/a
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    See post two below this
  • So if this is about "pub clans" ill assume anything allowed? Items,char,wepons,ect ect? I mean after all you cant really tell whos the best if you don't let them use What they are used to. Jw not trying to troll.
  • ElShocker wrote: »
    So if this is about "pub clans" ill assume anything allowed? Items,char,wepons,ect ect? I mean after all you cant really tell whos the best if you don't let them use What they are used to. Jw not trying to troll.
    Ah, forgot about that, will edit in a sec

    I was thinking a really relaxed ruleset.

    Body armor is allowed, head armor is not
    All guns except full wallbang
    Smoke/Flash is alright
    Girls are okay apart from SPOP and the smoke one
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    -Yes
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    -DRR
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    -8
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    -All Maps
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    -Don't Matter
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    -Let everyone play.
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    Not going to speak for my clan, but I could bring their attention to it.

    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    DDR or DE

    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    10, 8 as main, 2 as sub.

    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    Don't really matter. Would be better if you were to have map rotation or something. Maybe you could even go with random.

    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    Would probably encourage more people to play but I personally dont care.

    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    Everyone should have a chance.

    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    The one you said was fine.
  • vKonrad wrote: »
    Ah, forgot about that, will edit in a sec

    I was thinking a really relaxed ruleset.

    Body armor is allowed, head armor is not
    All guns except full wallbang
    Smoke/Flash is alright
    Girls are okay apart from SPOP and the smoke one

    Well, good luck i won't play, because I blow. Im pretty sure my clan would like to part take in this (WeAreLegion). I do have a proposition about the the way the team works. How about anyone who is in the clan can participate, but who ever wins let the leader decide on his clans top 5 players or MVP's to recive the prize. I mean its not really proving whos the better clan overall if the top players just plays against each other. It also makes it easier for matches to be done i guess. Just a thought most likely clans will still use top players, but just incase they missing one just pick someone up. Ik people will be like "they need to pratice together" but who cares yolo.
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    -Yes
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    -RR (DRR would take too long)
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    -10
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    -All Maps other than awful ones like castle
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    -Would like a zp prize (or possibly shipping mvp something like a mousepad :)) but it wouldn't matter much if there wasn't a prize
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    -Just pub clans, no competitive teams. Clans that play E8 sometimes would obviously be allowed. Max 2 true competitive players on the roster
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    -Allow everything except Kriss/M12s/M14EBR/Thompson/Head armor (refer to the ruleset of this post)

    tl;dr extremely casual ruleset like in CFCN, round robin tournament, 10 players per roster, and no completely competitive clans.
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    Yes.
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    Whichever, I prefer one of the Round Robin ones though.
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    8
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    Same map pool as ocg
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    Doesn't matter I think most people are playing for pride anyway
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    Idk
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    Prefer no armor at all and gp guns/bp guns only?
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    Yes
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    DE
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    8
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    All the WCG maps
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    ZP
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    n/a
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    e8 weapons
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    - Maybe
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    -Double or single
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    - 8
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    - whatever since its for pub
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    - ZP I guess cause pub ppl like zp for armor and crates
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    - Doesnt matter e8 team can play but the rules will allow armor and zp guns.
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    - All guns / armor allowed but not head.
  • So far, it looks like RR or DRR is the favorite.
    The ruleset will probably be something of the sort that I mentioned before:
    • Body Armor, no Head Armor
    • Every rifle that is not full wallbang
    • No SPOP/JFT
    • 9 round halfs, 5v5
    • OCG map selection
    • 2 truly competitive players/team



    Still in developement, reply with problems/comments/input
  • If the tournament is to decide who's the best pub clan, round robin and only pub clans. If it's just a tournament for fun, you should also allow competitive teams and make it double elimination.

    As for gunset:
    • wall bang guns are fine, no reason to disallow it
    • guns like m12s/thompson/kriss should not be allowed, m14ebr would be fine
    • Why no SPOP? Only difference between that and STAR is you can see SPOP through smoke
  • vKonrad wrote: »
    So far, it looks like RR or DRR is the favorite.
    The ruleset will probably be something of the sort that I mentioned before:
    • Body Armor, no Head Armor
    • Every rifle that is not full wallbang
    • No SPOP/JFT
    • 9 round halfs, 5v5
    • OCG map selection
    • 2 truly competitive players/team



    Still in developement, reply with problems/comments/input

    So body armor would be allowed?

    1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    -Yes
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    -DDR sounds perfect
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    -7-8
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    -Any map except festival and spain
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    -Yes, 10kzp/player
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    -who cares
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    -GP Only, no wallbang. Crate guns allowed?
    • Body Armor, no Head Armor OK
    • Every rifle that is not full wallbang OK
    • No SPOP/JFT ALL CHARS SHOULD BE ALLOWED
    • 9 round halfs, 5v5 OK
    • OCG map selection OK
    • 2 truly competitive players/team 1 COMPETITIVE PLAYER
  • soDEEEZY wrote: »
    • Body Armor, no Head Armor OK
    • Every rifle that is not full wallbang OK
    • No SPOP/JFT ALL CHARS SHOULD BE ALLOWED
    • 9 round halfs, 5v5 OK
    • OCG map selection OK
    • 2 truly competitive players/team 1 COMPETITIVE PLAYER

    Actually I agree, only 1 competitive player should be allowed.

    All chars except JTF should be allowed considering JTF reduces smoke affect.
  • No armor at all if you are trying to see who is the best clan imo.
  • Body armor will be allowed.
    Head armor will not be allowed.
    Wallbang guns are still open to discussion.
    Maps will be voted on later
    JTF will not be allowed, and SPOP is still open for discussion
    AMLIFY wrote: »
    No armor at all if you are trying to see who is the best clan imo.
    I feel that people play with armor in clan server so much that it becomes part of the idea.
    Its going to be allowed. Head armor will not however.


    And yeah, 1 truly competitive player per team.
    How that will be decided is kinda tricky tho
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    Of course
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    DRR as I cannot participate in something that stretches into September
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    8
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    All SND maps fine to me
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    10k zp for starting 5 always seems to keep people happy
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    Clans with over 15 members?
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    Current trend ok (no wall bang, no m12/kriss/tommy), but I would prefer no female characters

    Define "true competitive player". I was in WCG in 2011, ESL, and CSN (ESG once as well?), but I hardly call my self a full competitive player.
  • ChiNeseYoo wrote: »

    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    -Allow everything except Kriss/M12s/M14EBR/Thompson/Head armor (refer to the ruleset of this post)

    Your kidding right?
  • Your kidding right?

    You're, and no

    Why would you want to have a strict ruleset for casual players? Use your brain.
  • vKonrad wrote: »
    • 2 truly competitive players/team

    no way to regulate this whatsoever
  • no way to regulate this whatsoever
    Yeah, thats the problem the UGL Tournament had, and now I will have.. I'm sure I'll come up with a way


    ChiNeseYoo wrote: »

    Why would you want to have a strict ruleset for casual players?

    If I dont allow m12s/m14 then I will def not allow m4pat/royal/spring/x
  • No armor pls
    Also, isnt the spop the same as the star and la swat?
  • vKonrad wrote: »
    Yeah, thats the problem the UGL Tournament had, and now I will have.. I'm sure I'll come up with a way

    people will just smurf on alts

    sorry but there is no avoiding that
  • Stupid idea. Everyone already knows any clan I'm in is the best.
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    teamLOSERS would be down
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    DRR sounds fine
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    8
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    Since it's a pub competition, all maps should be allowed. However, Spain and Festival are the two maps that I strongly dislike. The former map makes my fps dip a bit
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    10k zp pl0x
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    15-20+ members without alts? Has to be in the clan a week or two before the tournament starts.
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    1 Wallbang gun per team, I'm fine with the other guns really
    All characters allowed
    Single boosting allowed

    Q. If body armors are allowed, but head armors aren't. How can we tell in the SS?
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    No cuz i'm bad
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    SE
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    8
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    Port, BW, Ceyhan, Mexico, Sub Base, Spain (for teh loooools)
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    Fame and glory (or if you can work it out a gun from z8)
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    Good question
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    Teh 1337 WCG roolz
  • Having rank restriction would eliminate some of the alts, but dq a lot of actual players pending where the bar was set.
    Having a minimum clan size and minimum age of clan I think could help in weeding out some alts too.

    All char but jtf and white wolf or w,e

    1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    We would play idk about compete xD

    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    No idea haha

    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    I would need to recruit some :( all I have atm are weekend warriors.

    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    Random - keep things interesting.

    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    A ribbon :)

    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    Number of clan wars divided by days clan has been active. Find a cut off point.


    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    DQ the wall bang and few smgs sounds good. Or else we will have a lot of pats n ebrs running around... all though that would be fun to see. The pubsters who are convinced they are better by using gp only vs the zp users who could care less what someone else uses.
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    Obviously
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    Single Round Robin with top 8 teams advancing too a seeded single elimination (seeds will matter, ties on seeds will be randomized).
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    8 or whole clan.
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    OCG maps
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    zp
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    no team that the majority of them frequent ego-8.
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    Relaxed, no wallbang, SL, m12 etc. Body armor allowed. No JTF.
  • 1) Would you and your clan compete in this tournament?
    -Yes
    2) Which style of tournament would you want this to be? DRR? RR? SE? DE? Other?
    -DRR
    3) How many people on the roster? 7? 8? 10? 15?
    -8 as main and 2 subs
    4) Which maps would you want to play on?
    -Random maps (Without Spain since it's giving fps drop)
    5) Do you want there to be a prize?(What do you want it to be?)
    -The best prize would be something like Medal
    6) How do you want the classifications for pub clan to work?
    -Everyone can play but they need to accept the rules since it's more a pub clan tournament
    7) What weapons ruleset would you want to?
    -All weapons without armor (Since it's unfair for the people that can't get it)

    Where will the tournament be held at what servers and timezone?