OCG Crossfire Summertime League Information Thread
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RTB_Yamaton wrote: »Why does my team (RaiseTheBar) only have 1 win and 3 points? we've won two games, one against Recovery.USA and one against Edge, would be nice if you guys fix that. ty.
Because we have only had time to update the scores up to a certain point. We haven't even been able to finish Saturday's match reports. The system we have in place currently is too time consuming and makes everything 10x harder to keep track. That's the reason were developing a new system at the moment. Expect it soon, very soon.
tl;dr - Because we haven't updated the scores fully yet.ChiNeseYoo wrote: »Why does ASCEND have no wins/losses/points if we should be 2-0 with 6 points? We reported the games :c
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Because we have only had time to update the scores up to a certain point. We haven't even been able to finish Saturday's match reports. The system we have in place currently is too time consuming and makes everything 10x harder to keep track. That's the reason were developing a new system at the moment. Expect it soon, very soon.
tl;dr - Because we haven't updated the scores fully yet.
Read above.
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A team member of mine (Logic) was recently banned for having a "crosshair cheat" on their system.
This "crosshair cheat" allegedly puts a Crosshair on the screen when you have an AWP out. LOGIC- had downloaded it to give to another player (a friend of ours, also on our team) to help him with his quickscoping.
Anyway, it was not running, but your AC (like a good AC should) detected it. However, you should have been aware (since your AC actively scans active programs) that it was not running.
Furthermore, another member had the exact same "cheat" on their system (the one he gave it to)...but did not get banned.
Your staff members' responses to him was, "I've seen how you play; I know you cheat. Enjoy your ban" when he asked for the evidence you had.
The lines that stand the most out to me are when (in the first chat log) Alex expresses surprise. That is to say,
"07/04 15:40:35 Alex: at the time ?"
"07/04 15:40:47Alex: even if you didnt h4ck at the time
if you download something ... before .."
This simple question means that Alex has no idea what legitimately banned Logic, other than that the AC flagged something on his computer. In other instances of bans being issued, screenshots have been taken by the AC.
Furthermore, look at Alex's reasoning for the ban later in the text:
"07/04 15:40:35 Alex: U have injector or something like that ...
i saw ur nick name i saw how u play
so have a nice waiting for unban"
Alex's reasoning is that he has seen how Logic plays, so he must cheat?
Right.
Logic even has screenshots from during the game. He screenshotted the ends of both halves, and had even screenshotted once during it because the other team was using coloured names. Yet your AC, which supposedly takes screenshots whenever it scans through your computer, has...what? By all means, shower us with this information. It's not a sharing of private data if he himself is asking for it...yet you refuse to contact him.
The funny thing is, he sent this "cheat" to our teammate 2 months ago, and has used this anti-cheat multiple times since then. However, it only now has been "detected".
Please, help us resolve this issue. Thanks! -
Let me address a few things:
#1 Just because one player wasn't banned because of it, doesn't mean he will not be banned. That means we haven't reviewed all the anticheat logs yet.
#2 There is proof of him using it during the match. We do not reveal evidence, as people of the community have ruined it for others. Therefore we now officially tell you why you got banned. "Crossfire Crosshair Hack"
Hope that helped. This should be a lesson well learnt, to not go to hacking websites like (****) and download third party advantages to make your self better than others.
Thanks,
Evan
OCG President
Note: We have proper channels for this discussion to be spoken through. I will no longer discuss about this here. -
Let me address a few things:
#1 Just because one player wasn't banned because of it, doesn't mean he will not be banned. That means we haven't reviewed all the anticheat logs yet.
#2 There is proof of him using it during the match. We do not reveal evidence, as people of the community have ruined it for others. Therefore we now officially tell you why you got banned. "Crossfire Crosshair Hack"
Hope that helped. This should be a lesson well learnt, to not go to hacking websites like (****) and download third party advantages to make your self better than others.
Thanks,
Evan
OCG President
Note: We have proper channels for this discussion to be spoken through. I will no longer discuss about this here.
I guarantee you have absolutely no proof of him using it during the match. -
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2fastSTREAK wrote: »It wasn't a challenge. Your admins have downs and your anticheat is clearly flawed so you're lying to make it seem like it's good.
Once again, I guarantee you have no proof he used any cheats during the match.
the fact that it was detected in the first place was the reason he was banned, maybe he shouldn't of had it at all -
the fact that it was detected in the first place was the reason he was banned, maybe he shouldn't of had it at all
Yes, he shouldn't have had it and that's his fault. However Evan lying about it is pretty pathetic.
Also I'm not sure about this but didn't they say the anticheat scans the processes that are running, not everything on your computer? -
Let me address a few things:
#1 Just because one player wasn't banned because of it, doesn't mean he will not be banned. That means we haven't reviewed all the anticheat logs yet.
#2 There is proof of him using it during the match. We do not reveal evidence, as people of the community have ruined it for others. Therefore we now officially tell you why you got banned. "Crossfire Crosshair Hack"
Hope that helped. This should be a lesson well learnt, to not go to hacking websites like (****) and download third party advantages to make your self better than others.
Thanks,
Evan
OCG President
Note: We have proper channels for this discussion to be spoken through. I will no longer discuss about this here.
your admin said all the logs were reviewed on the 4th
lol@using a crosshair hack when he rifled the entire first half + took scteenshots. "proof"?
#OCGbitterthatLOGICquit
logic has used the same AC for weeks and not been banned
the last time he sent the crosshair "hack" was 2+ months ago
l2truth
d00ds
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To clarify for everyone else, LOGIC has no such cheat on his system. It was in his "sent files" folder. It has been for months. He played last week on the AC, this week on the AC, and has played in several drafts on the AC.
Their staff's initial response (before Evan's damage control) was "we've seen how you play; we know you cheat."
Their staff's other response was "we reviewed all of the logs on the 4th"; now Evan says that they clearly haven't reviewed all of the logs.
I am one of the largest supporters of OCG on this forum, but there's a certain level of fishiness about this...and it isn't with LOGIC's crosshair. -
Let me address a few things:
#1 Just because one player wasn't banned because of it, doesn't mean he will not be banned. That means we haven't reviewed all the anticheat logs yet.
#2 There is proof of him using it during the match. We do not reveal evidence, as people of the community have ruined it for others. Therefore we now officially tell you why you got banned. "Crossfire Crosshair Hack"
#3 Hope that helped. This should be a lesson well learnt, to not go to hacking websites like (****) and download third party advantages to make your self better than others.
Thanks,
Evan
OCG President
Note: We have proper channels for this discussion to be spoken through. I will no longer discuss about this here.
#1 Complete BS
#2 Another complete BS lie from Evan, nothing new.
#3 I didn't
^True2fastSTREAK wrote: »I guarantee you have absolutely no proof of him using it during the match.
Judging by how badly you raged when I quit OCG staff, I can easily see you banning me because of it. There was absolutely no reason for this ban and you know it. Now you have been caught in the act of lying and are trying to get away with it? That's absolutely ridiculous for the 14 year old president of an 'online competitive gaming company that strives for professionalism'.I feel challenged. Not. There's no point for OCG to ban falsely. -
#1 Complete BS
#2 Another complete BS lie from Evan, nothing new.
#3 I didn't
^True
Judging by how badly you raged when I quit OCG staff, I can easily see you banning me because of it. There was absolutely no reason for this ban and you know it. Now you have been caught in the act of lying and are trying to get away with it? That's absolutely ridiculous for the 14 year old president of an 'online competitive gaming company that strives for professionalism'.
Ok, so let me address this for you.
First of all, Alex is draft staff and has no business commenting on such a matter. He has NO access to full reasons why someone is banned. It's that simple. Second, it clearly states in the ban update thread that all disputes are to be handled through the support system (found here. Not on Ventrilo, not to our emails, not on the forums, not anywhere else but the support system.
Anticheat Logs are still being reviewed, as often as possible.
Next, I did not rage when you left staff, I didn't even talk to you, only through the phone in which I said talk to Danny, because he deals with staff. I do not ban for the wrong reasons. We have replaced you. I was caught in an act of lies? What did I lie about please enlighten me. I concurrently stated, you have been banned for a crosshair hack. This item is a third party program. We do not allow third party programs to be used or have on your computer. These are our rules. No reason to download hacks.
I am 14 all of a sudden, yes. That makes sense. I am 18. And I do OCG more as a volunteer job to bring competitions to games, because I like it as a hobby. We have channels made out for people to ask us to investigate more on your ban. You have just made it worse on yourself channeling it out here. But seeing as I have investigated your ban more critically in making sure I have all the right reasons, your ban will not be lifted.
I know you may not be satisfied, but this should be a lesson for you that you should not have hacks, nor have downloaded any kind of third party program to make your game have an advantage over others.
Thanks,
Evan -
Ok, so let me address this for you.
First of all, Alex is draft staff and has no business commenting on such a matter. He has NO access to full reasons why someone is banned. It's that simple. Second, it clearly states in the ban update thread that all disputes are to be handled through the support system (found here. Not on Ventrilo, not to our emails, not on the forums, not anywhere else but the support system.
Anticheat Logs are still being reviewed, as often as possible.
Next, I did not rage when you left staff, I didn't even talk to you, only through the phone in which I said talk to Danny, because he deals with staff. I do not ban for the wrong reasons. We have replaced you. I was caught in an act of lies? What did I lie about please enlighten me. I concurrently stated, you have been banned for a crosshair hack. This item is a third party program. We do not allow third party programs to be used or have on your computer. These are our rules. No reason to download hacks.
I am 14 all of a sudden, yes. That makes sense. I am 18. And I do OCG more as a volunteer job to bring competitions to games, because I like it as a hobby. We have channels made out for people to ask us to investigate more on your ban. You have just made it worse on yourself channeling it out here. But seeing as I have investigated your ban more critically in making sure I have all the right reasons, your ban will not be lifted.
I know you may not be satisfied, but this should be a lesson for you that you should not have hacks, nor have downloaded any kind of third party program to make your game have an advantage over others.
Thanks,
Evan
I lol'd
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My text is in red.Ok, so let me address this for you.
First of all, Alex is draft staff and has no business commenting on such a matter. He has NO access to full reasons why someone is banned. It's that simple. Second, it clearly states in the ban update thread that all disputes are to be handled through the support system (found here. Not on Ventrilo, not to our emails, not on the forums, not anywhere else but the support system.
I talked to Alex and asked him if I could speak with other staff, and he told me that you were refusing to talk to me.
Anticheat Logs are still being reviewed, as often as possible.
Odd, your staff told me that all AC Logs have already been reviewed.
Next, I did not rage when you left staff, I didn't even talk to you, only through the phone in which I said talk to Danny, because he deals with staff. I do not ban for the wrong reasons. We have replaced you. I was caught in an act of lies? What did I lie about please enlighten me. I concurrently stated, you have been banned for a crosshair hack. This item is a third party program. We do not allow third party programs to be used or have on your computer. These are our rules. No reason to download hacks.
Please enlighten you? You clearly said that you have proof and screenshots of me using it in game, which you obviously do not.
I am 14 all of a sudden, yes. That makes sense. I am 18. And I do OCG more as a volunteer job to bring competitions to games, because I like it as a hobby. We have channels made out for people to ask us to investigate more on your ban. You have just made it worse on yourself channeling it out here. But seeing as I have investigated your ban more critically in making sure I have all the right reasons, your ban will not be lifted.
Lying AGAIN? Really Evan? You're not 18, you're 14, and your maturity level is that of an eight year old. On your website you state that OCG strives for professionalism, and it seems that you are doing the complete opposite.
I know you may not be satisfied, but this should be a lesson for you that you should not have hacks, nor have downloaded any kind of third party program to make your game have an advantage over others.
This isn't a lesson because I did not do those things.
Thanks,
Evan -
Ellustrial wrote: »I am one of the largest supporters of OCG on this forum, but there's a certain level of fishiness about this...and it isn't with LOGIC's crosshair.
Correction, you're one of the only supporters of OCG on this forum. I find that to be pretty upsetting because I'd like to think of you as an equal in terms of intelligence. I called this from the very start, and Evan's thought process is just absurd.
Why on earth would your AC trigger a ban because of a program that isn't running? If you can provide me a logically sustained argument as to why you think that's fair I'd love to hear it. And please don't say "there is no excuse to have cheats on your PC", that's not the topic of discussion nor is it relevant. Any remotely decent anti cheat looks at processes currently running, it wouldn't skim through your disks trying to find cheats because that would be idiotic. -
I must be a smart 14 year old: http://puu.sh/3vkT2.png
With the specific program ran here, it can be ran while ingame, and before game. When we review the anticheat logs and what gets flagged, we investigate upon it. We at OCG are allowed to ban under our own discretion. Having a Crosshair hack is the same thing as a no recoil/no spread hack, and any hack.
That is fine you want to stick up for your friend, and that it is fine you have your own opinion on things. But this is how we are conducting our ac bans.Whether you want to obey by OCG Rules, that is your choice. If not, then you do not have to participate.
This item is a third party program. We do not allow third party programs to be used or have on your computer. These are our rules. No reason to download hacks. -
I must be a smart 14 year old: http://puu.sh/3vkT2.png
This item is a third party program. We do not allow third party programs to be used or have on your computer. These are our rules. No reason to download hacks.
Whether you want to obey by OCG Rules, that is your choice. If not, then you do not have to participate.
You completely answered slayas question. Great job Evan. -
Lionheartban,
This will be the last time I respond to you, as every post you have ever made against us as been entirely atrocious, dim-witted, and highly just against me...
"Let's stick to the topic at hand though, this is about your poorly run organization and tournament and your incompetent staff"
If you would like to be so arrogant and negative all the time, please enlighten me on how we can become better or better yet teach me. I do this as a hobby to run tournaments for games. Whether you want to take part is your decision.
Thanks,
Evan
OCG President
Every post I've ever made against you has been logically sustained and has a tonne of evidence to back up what I'm saying. Pretty bold of you to say that my posts have been dim-witted. I'm not being arrogant or negative, I am stating facts that are presented to me by numerous sources. -
loljkwatusay wrote: »I find it funny that you can post a screenshot of you proving you're of age, but you can't post a screenshot proving that -LOGIC was running the "crosshair hack" ingame (especially since you claim that you have proof). You may be 18, but your thought process is that of a 6 year old.
This made me laugh ahaha, post on your main please
AgainErick, I will make a change to our terms of service, to clarify better, so next time that isn't a question to be ruled in. Though, it is kind of obvious that you shouldn't have cheats.
"Their anti-cheat can ban someone for cheating that had a hack on their computer as long as a year ago, when if they even tried using that cheat again on CF, the cheat would be so old Xtrap would pick it up and block it. Therefor the OCG ban would be useless."
Plus it makes no sense to ban people for having cheats on their computer if they're not using it in game.
EVEN if it's a not good to have it on their computer, some people may share their computer. A brother might get on CF every now and then and download a cheat and use it on a different account, while the brother tries to get into OCG, you guy's would pick up a hack on his computer and he would get banned.
That's kind of a bad example and might sound a little vague but honestly if they're not using cheats in game, then there is NO POINT to ban them if they're going to play legitly in your tournament. Especially if you're only banning people for 30 days.
One of the stupidest posts i've seen on this thread.If a player wants to be competitive... Why would they have cheats irregardless?
EDIT:
It also looks and sounds like players have to work around a lot of stuff just to run your anti-cheat, play on your league, and use your website. I can't believe what you said about the new ESG/CFL. CFL is 10x better than your ****ty tournament/leagues, please don't ever come into these forums and this community again and disrespect Erick and davidlive after they ran such a successful league. It's too bad you weren't here to witness how they ran it so you can actually take notes and look how to run a successful organization.
And this ^ -
Hello Guys,
As we are always listening to the community, we have made this poll because we find there is a lot of controversy whether someone should be banned due to having hacks on the computer or in game.
Our belief here at OCG is: If the item is a third party program. We do not allow third party programs to be used or have on your computer. These are our rules. No reason to download hacks. If you had no intent of using them, why download them?
But others have there own opinion, therefore I have made a poll with the basis of opinions I have been getting. The one that gets the most votes, will be the one we will stick with from now on.
Please Note: Depending on which opinion from the poll wins, you may get unbanned from the OCG ACS, on the most recent ban list update.
Thank You and as always Happy Voting!
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Evan
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Where are the official rosters?
Maturity. has 0 members on their roster.
http://ocgaming.org/forums/teams.php?do=viewteam&id=284
I've been using this as an official roster for all teams.
http://ocgaming.org/forums/teams.php
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