hackers indication
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Hello!
I want to suggest adding some sign in front of username, indicating that he/she has been banned for hacking from game at least once (or maybe during some period, like last 3 months). This will help players to distinguish hackers from normal players.
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I want to suggest adding some sign in front of username, indicating that he/she has been banned for hacking from game at least once (or maybe during some period, like last 3 months). This will help players to distinguish hackers from normal players.
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This has been suggested before and simply wont happen. think about how many that would be kicked because they have been banned for hacking by xtrap and then joins a game and does play a good game legitly. I have never hacked or been banned but i can`t say this is a good idea js.
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This has been suggested before and simply wont happen. think about how many that would be kicked because they have been banned for hacking by xtrap and then joins a game and does play a good game legitly. I have never hacked or been banned but i can`t say this is a good idea js.
nobody who use hak for one time, will play legit after if u start to use hak is no coming back for you .......the cat who learn to eat mouse, never forget that -
nobody who use hak for one time, will play legit after if u start to use hak is no coming back for you .......the cat who learn to eat mouse, never forget that
There are a lot of people who hacked that are legit now but once hacked. Isaac for an example, actually there are 2 who used to be in my clan that hacked once before. -
Omg---best ideea !!
1 year a noob hak shoul have that banner!!!! so if someone play verry good all ppl cand see if he is PRO player or is a hak. That prevent some QQ kik. Its true--if some one hak he will always hak and will take permanent ban someday... and in meen time he ruin every room he played!!! -
That's a bad idea as those people will most likely be subject to rage or regular kicking more often if they have that symbol. Plus, if they now do good in a game, everybody might believe they hack again.
As much as I'd also like to see a system that shows publicly if a person has hacked before, I can think of no way that would ensure those people wouldn't be discriminated against.
best regards,
Urkel -
+1
but I don't understand why z8 doesn't perm ban players/hackers detected from X-traps. I mean you might say "X-traps might make a mistake" but then it is also unfair to take the HS ribbon away from them as well. 2 contradicting actions towards players that is caught by X-traps imo. -
No...just...no...
Hackers that are caught by GMs get banned permanently. There is no temporary ban for hacking. It's 1 strike and you're out.
Even though X-trap is the only one temp-banning hackers, this doesn't mean they need to be highlighted to the player. They need to be perm-banned manually by GMs. Which means we need better communication between X-Trap and our GMs.
X-trap also hands out temp-bans on false positives. And the last thing this game needs is player forming lynch mobs and start kicking innocent players that have already fallen victim to X-trap picking them up as a false positive. -
X-trap also hands out temp-bans on false positives. And the last thing this game needs is player forming lynch mobs and start kicking innocent players that have already fallen victim to X-trap picking them up as a false positive.
It happened to me, but I haven't heard any case since my ban on 10/21/1010 of somebody being falsely banned by the auto-ban system, or any appeal to those bans like mine. -
False positive xtrap banns should not affect neither the ribbon, nor this indicator.
The thing is that you can't help the ribbon and the indicator being affected by false positives.
You would need a real person to distinguish between false positives and correct positives, which is way too difficult given the enormous amount of players.
Long story short: It will never be possible to cleanly distinguish real hackers from false positives (remember you can get banned just for having altered their killmarks incorrectly). Therefore, a discrimination of hackers shouldn't take place in-game.
best regards,
Urkel -
Thats a good thing!
So an example you get banned by xtrap because it thinks some weird program is a hack and z8 wont return the ribbon or remove the ban record and you would be from then on known as a hacker and be kicked for actually never have hacked. Is that a good thing?
And before you say that wont happen that error with xtrap then im sure i have seen a few old forummers write about the exsact same thing in some post a while back, how they where banned by xtrap for no reason and they couldnt get their ribbon back. so in my oppinion this is a bad idea.
Not meaning i support hackers in any way what so ever i wish they would get their fingers cut off for ruining our game.. -
If the auto-ban was that inaccurate, it wouldn't exist.The thing is that you can't help the ribbon and the indicator being affected by false positives.
You would need a real person to distinguish between false positives and correct positives, which is way too difficult given the enormous amount of players.
Long story short: It will never be possible to cleanly distinguish real hackers from false positives (remember you can get banned just for having altered their killmarks incorrectly). Therefore, a discrimination of hackers shouldn't take place in-game.
best regards,
Urkel
Also, contested bans are handled by real people. -
I like the idea but wouldn't want it to happen, what if you got a key logger on your pc or someone guessed your password or a friend scammed it they then used a hack on your account got it banned for 3 weeks. Then you recovered it got it unbanned and to top it off you can't play any games because everyone thinks you hack......
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So an example you get banned by xtrap because it thinks some weird program is a hack and z8 wont return the ribbon or remove the ban record and you would be from then on known as a hacker and be kicked for actually never have hacked. Is that a good thing?
..No...just...no...
X-trap also hands out temp-bans on false positives. And the last thing this game needs is player forming lynch mobs and start kicking innocent players that have already fallen victim to X-trap picking them up as a false positive.
Wrong.
Which false positive are you reffering to? I assume its the (1) (0:4:0:0) ,(0:5:0:0) ones. They are null detections, they do not ban and are there because of delayed connections to HGWC/X-trap. The game will send you out but there will be no ban recived.
In the case where X-trap does give a faulty ban, they can see what you were banned for in the hack tool detection log. Each hack tool has different numbers/meanings that is linked to the black list of programs that X-trap picks up. If the ban was indeed faulty a GM can look into the issue and investigate what went wrong and give you the ribbon back. A false detection happend in 2011 where a number of players were banned because Cross Fire picked up its own files. Each one of those players were given their ribbon back. -
Wrong.
Which false positive are you reffering to? I assume its the (1) (0:4:0:0) ,(0:5:0:0) ones. They are null detections, they do not ban and are there because of delayed connections to HGWC/X-trap. The game will send you out but there will be no ban recived.
In the case where X-trap does give a faulty ban, they can see what you were banned for in the hack tool detection log. Each hack tool has different numbers/meanings that is linked to the black list of programs that X-trap picks up. If the ban was indeed faulty a GM can look into the issue and investigate what went wrong and give you the ribbon back. A false detection happend in 2011 where a number of players were banned because Cross Fire picked up its own files. Each one of those players were given their ribbon back.Tell that to the thousands of players that were banned by X-trap because it picked up their Virus Detector as an injection program. AGV, was it?
There is no guaranty this won't happen again. With either AGV or some other piece of free software running in the background. You'll be wrongfully banned for 3 days, and then marked to be kicked from every room you enter for another 3 weeks, until someone has the time to sort things out and clear your name.
But then again, your name doesn't need clearing, now does it, Warhawk? You're quite fond of using hack injectors in this game. Especially that one you used to crash rooms whenever you left. How many accounts did you go through again? More than you can count on one hand, I suppose. -
Also make sure that they only show that symbol when a player has had a ban from the autoban system, a few liars will come up in a few minutes saying "i got banned for trolling,insulting,chargeback" and -1 your idea.
+1
I was banned on my main about 2 years ago for creating an alt account and trolling with it. Should I be labelled as a hacker?
Faulty system, if there is a way to know who the actual hackers are, simply permaban them.. -
Also make sure that they only show that symbol when a player has had a ban from the autoban system, a few liars will come up in a few minutes saying "i got banned for trolling,insulting,chargeback" and -1 your idea.
+1
This could be useful except for the fact that it would have to be foolproof.
X-trap has interfered in the past. In the case that this system could be made foolproof then it would be a good idea.
As of right now I don't think it would work out. -
Tell that to the thousands of players that were banned by X-trap because it picked up their Virus Detector as an injection program. AGV, was it?
There is no guaranty this won't happen again. With either AGV or some other piece of free software running in the background. Then you'll be wrongfully banned for 3 days, and them marked to be kicked from every room you enter for another 3 weeks, until someone has the time to sort things out and clear your name.
But then again, your name doesn't need clearing, now does it, Warhawk? You're quite fond of using hack injectors in this game. Especially that one you used to crash rooms whenever you left. How many accounts did you go through again? More than you can count on one hand, I suppose.
It is unfair to take away HS ribbon if that is the case.
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