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I also think z8 also needs to step up and try to actively bring more to the game. They only seem to be profit orientated as of recent. It would be nice for them to try to bring more to the competitive game as opposed to purely zp related interest.
Yea.
Like that's ever going to happen.... -
What interests companies in picking up a game has nothing to do with community behavior, and it has everything to do with how many people would watch the streams of the games.
That's it. That's all.
Companies don't care how immature 95% of the people are. They (typically) don't have some intrinsic desire to support competitive FPS games at all time. If they are making money, they are content.
Show them that they would make money (stream viewers, 5 to 6 thousand at least is a start), and they'll be happy to. -
A topic to improve the competitive now is a topic where ppl called each other ret-ard and morons and stupid , etc so sad.
yes you cant even ready a thread these days without that slaya kid being on hes period and blaming it on evereyone. -
For those that are going to the Toronto LAN in March, there will be a meeting with all who attend.
We will be discussing what can we and/or Z8 do to make Competitive Crossfire better, what we like about CF, what we don't like about CF, changes to regular CF and comp CF.
Saidin said he "might" show, but that's still in the air. -
I'm pretty sure everyone is still waiting on a venue and confirmation, not just the false hope that it will happen.For those that are going to the Toronto LAN in March, there will be a meeting with all who attend.
We will be discussing what can we and/or Z8 do to make Competitive Crossfire better, what we like about CF, what we don't like about CF, changes to regular CF and comp CF.
Saidin said he "might" show, but that's still in the air.I personally would not want to pick up crossfire because of the community, but that is me. I would like to have positive and friendly communities in place before bringing any attention to it via sponsorship/tournaments.
I personally think that's why you aren't apart of any organizations or companies. Community means absolutely nothing, look at LoL for example. Community is terrible yet sponsors and organizations stick to it because it's profitable. If sponsors/orgs dropped games because of how bad the community is, eSports in general would of been dead a long time ago. -
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I could get a website up and running ( a .com one) and try to get the ranked matches up and running again because according to others it died out. Would be nice if someone paid for MyAC though, I could get some sponsors and maybe get a league running. However someone else has to pay for the AC and then I'll pitch in. I have school and a life so I'll probably hosted matches on Saturdays and Sunday's at set times before I head out with friends.
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I personally think that's why you aren't apart of any organizations or companies. Community means absolutely nothing, look at LoL for example. Community is terrible yet sponsors and organizations stick to it because it's profitable. If sponsors/orgs dropped games because of how bad the community is, eSports in general would of been dead a long time ago.
Before hand: Opinion based and bias, read at your own risk. I won't argue rebuttals, I am giving my opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.
I wouldn't wanna work for a company in the gaming industry. I tend to be emotional when it comes to decision making on a personal level as opposed to profit driven and would demand the utmost professionalism from teams in a tournament especially in crossfire. Perfect example why I changed majors from business to csc, I don't have the killer instinct profit mindset for business. However, you have been around as long as I have. You know the community. At least in crossfire I am bias and ideally demand more because I want to see the game flourish. When you have been around for 4+ years you tend to get invested in the game even if you stop playing. If I were to be working for a gaming company, of course I would pick up teams for LoL, CS, Dota and as long as profit was being made. Crossfire is different however, I have more a emotional investment. I know the community doesn't matter but I think it does help to a certain degree when getting external involvement.
I think overall bringing more to Crossfire requires a few things:
1. Improve the community
2. get more external involvement.
3. more events
*This is the key*
Also, z8 needs to market the NA version more and get more players and sponsors to the game. I think the community being so small hurts us as we are less profitable when compared to other games. Large interest and player base tends to equate to more profit which esports are drawn to. -
Community means absolutely nothing, look at LoL for example. Community is terrible yet sponsors and organizations stick to it because it's profitable. If sponsors/orgs dropped games because of how bad the community is, eSports in general would of been dead a long time ago.
You'd be right if you weren't wrong. Whether or not something can become profitable can and will be influenced by the community. Just because some is currently profitable to become involved in does not mean that it always was, and you saying that a community cannot be taken into consideration when predicting whether or not you can make profit out of something like this is just a lack of consideration on your part.
Outright saying that community is irrelevant is a blatantly false absolute. -
You'd be right if you weren't wrong. Whether or not something can become profitable can and will be influenced by the community. Just because some is currently profitable to become involved in does not mean that it always was, and you saying that a community cannot be taken into consideration when predicting whether or not you can make profit out of something like this is just a lack of consideration on your part.
Outright saying that community is irrelevant is a blatantly false absolute.
Sorry but you're wrong. The community of a game is pretty irrelevant in the big picture when it comes to making money, but I guess in this game community does matter to an extent since it's so small. There's just not many people willing to put money into it and blame the community. -
I could get a website up and running ( a .com one) and try to get the ranked matches up and running again because according to others it died out. Would be nice if someone paid for MyAC though, I could get some sponsors and maybe get a league running. However someone else has to pay for the AC and then I'll pitch in. I have school and a life so I'll probably hosted matches on Saturdays and Sunday's at set times before I head out with friends.
add my xfire I have 2 people +you willing to chip in for the AC. I can probably get someone to host the rest of the matches (weekdays). -
Did you call the LoL community terrible?
Anyways no one is going to put money into a game for about 100 upset nerds. Move on people.
You think the LoL community is good? lol. The amount of people in the LoL community that people may regard as an idiot or a troll outweigh the amount of people that play this game all together. A lot of the top players are goofs as well, pretty sure their sponsors don't care as long as they're making money. -
You'd be right if you weren't wrong. Whether or not something can become profitable can and will be influenced by the community. Just because some is currently profitable to become involved in does not mean that it always was, and you saying that a community cannot be taken into consideration when predicting whether or not you can make profit out of something like this is just a lack of consideration on your part.
Outright saying that community is irrelevant is a blatantly false absolute.
You're silly. Some of the most polished gaming communities in the world haven't been able to pull through for sponsorship. It's all about viewership, and the top 1%'s ability to communicate with the companies / organizations.
I'm not going to respond to doop or geegee, because their attitudes are toxic. -
Call me toxic all you want. The RtCW community was exactly like the CF community before it died out all the way. Yes my attitude is toxic, but I have already experienced this first hand. No reason for me to fight to swim against the current once again.I'm not going to respond to doop or geegee, because their attitudes are toxic.
The strength of a community has very little to do with the quality of the players. More has to do with the quantity. All the quality does is make the time outside practice more enjoyable, however when you are really competitive you tend to not care about anyone outside your team.
As for league of legends being a terrible community, you can't ignore this:
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Have we finally realized that the reason this community has died is because we (I'm not excluding myself, I wasn't always a role model) killed it?
Cheating + general immaturity really did us in. Elitism and the unwillingness to welcome/mentor others is/was also a problem.
I don't blame the leagues for dropping us, though I have no ideal what happened with WOGL, I've been involved with this community long enough to know that there will always be a minority that goes out of its way to shiit on people trying to do the right thing.
Back when e8 was bumping, everyone was so caught up in their own little quest to become the best. Some went the right route and put in the work to carve out a name for themselves, but others decided to burn the candle at both ends and do whatever they could to make a name.
But now e8 is dying or dead (depending on who you ask, my opinion is the latter) and now people want to get concerned. I hate to bring more negativity, but honestly the damage is probably already done. People have bounced out to other games and haven't looked back.
So to the people that turned it to shiit: Congratulations, you're king turd on top of shiit mountain. It's what you wanted, isn't it? You can contest the throne with the other 100~ or so people who still identify with the scene. You can threaten to fight each other at Lan, you can complain about no leagues, talk shiit about better players, talk shiit about worse players.
It's what you wanted, isn't it? -
just curious what exactly is needed for the competitive side to come back that you all talk about. a complete list of what it would need.
In my opinion:
A larger and more mature community
z8 to actually put out the effort to create tournamets/sponsors/partners
more community hosted events -
In my opinion:
A larger and more mature community
z8 to actually put out the effort to create tournamets/sponsors/partners
more community hosted events
All the game needs is money.so its up to z8 not the players then
It would be up to the players/community.just curious what exactly is needed for the competitive side to come back that you all talk about. a complete list of what it would need.
Money.
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