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AwfulFallout wrote: »" heat energy is transferred from higher temperature components to lower temperature components."
Yes because.
" heat energy is transferred from higher temperature components to lower temperature components." = "matter can not be created or destroyed" -
Yes because.
" heat energy is transferred from higher temperature components to lower temperature components." = "matter can not be created or destroyed"
yes that is why i was referencing thermodynamics in response about the big bang theory -
Yes because.
" heat energy is transferred from higher temperature components to lower temperature components." = "matter can not be created or destroyed"
I still don't get how this is related to his point in gods existence and how the universe came to be.
many lols.....
EDIT: Oh Big Bang theory? Oh ok please go on sir...... -
Yes, you are right about that. But God gave man a free will when He created him. which is why man DECIDED to disobey God, which resulted in sin.Just saying God could stop man doing anything. He's god.
But yes what you said is correct, but God gave man a free will so that we can make our own decisions. But the reason as to WHY God gave man a free will is something that can be discussed another time. -
Yes, you are right about that. But God gave man a free will when He created him. which is why man DECIDED to disobey God, which resulted in sin.
But yes what you said is correct, but God gave man a free will so that we can make our own decisions. But the reason that God gave man a free will is a topic that can be discussed other time.
Oh dam mind boggled.
Touche.
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aTastyCookii wrote: »I still don't get how this is related to his point in gods existence and how the universe came to be.
many lols.....
EDIT: Oh Big Bang theory? Oh ok please go on sir......
The creation of the universe is something beyond my league and GOOD arguments can be made from both sides. Stephen Hawking, who is much smarter than all of us, has spent his entire life thinking about this and studying astrophysics and he came up with the conclusion that the universe could not have been the work of a higher entity. I much rather trust the work of someone who used reasoning and logic over dogma than the works of religious scholars reading ancient middle-eastern tribesman scripture. -
you should read about this (the works of people mentioned in the link below)The creation of the universe is something beyond my league and GOOD arguments can be made from both sides. Stephen Hawking, who is much smarter than all of us, has spent his entire life thinking about this and studying astrophysics and he came up with the conclusion that the universe could not have been the work of a higher entity. I much rather trust the work of someone who used reasoning and logic over dogma than the works of religious scholars reading ancient middle-eastern tribesman scripture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
interesting seeing logic used from a religious point of view -
The creation of the universe is something beyond my league and GOOD arguments can be made from both sides. Stephen Hawking, who is much smarter than all of us, has spent his entire life thinking about this and studying astrophysics and he came up with the conclusion that the universe could not have been the work of a higher entity. I much rather trust the work of someone who used reasoning and logic over dogma than the works of religious scholars reading ancient middle-eastern tribesman scripture.
EXACTLY.
Oh my you must be atheist as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Lol.
Religious theories cannot be proven.
But science....
Lols.
You are a pretty LEGIT smart guy btw. You chinese ass Mof. -
aTastyCookii wrote: »EXACTLY.
Oh my you must be atheist as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Lol.
Religious theories cannot be proven.
But science....
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Lols.
You are a pretty LEGIT smart guy btw. You chinese ass Mof.
not saying you're wrong but you have to read both sides of the argument
i am not going to go over in depth but there are some things you should read about
scientific theory being flawed
human perception being flawed which results in flawed science
and additionally, science from a christian perspective, i haven't read much on christian science, but from what i have heard there are some pretty good explanations for a variety of things -
DamThe Mayan calendar did not include leap years so it should have ended a while ago
There we go that's what that shiet is called.
The world has already ended.
Herp derp?
I'm gona keep playing CF Idgaf.
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/mayan-calendar-december-21-2012-nasa-discusses-mayan-end-of-world-predictions -
You're still trying to ramble about this?AwfulFallout wrote: »not saying you're wrong but you have to read both sides of the argument
i am not going to go over in depth but there are some things you should read about
scientific theory being flawed
human perception being flawed which results in flawed science
and additionally, science from a christian perspective, i haven't read much on christian science, but from what i have heard there are some pretty good explanations for a variety of things
Please give me another Wikipedia link sir.
flawed science? human perception?
Bro please.
Science is proven. Religion is not.
I believe there isn't such a thing as flawed science because the credible evidence is right in front of all of us.
Science is not based on human perception. It's simply mother nature and simply how the worlds elements work.
Get real.
Are you questioning Einstein? :0 Why even bring him up to support your point then. Count how many times you contradicted yourself.
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aTastyCookii wrote: »You're still trying to ramble about this?
Please give me another Wikipedia link sir.
flawed science? human perception?
Bro please.
Science is proven. Religion is not.
I believe there isn't such a thing as flawed science because the credible evidence is right in front of all of us.
Science is not based on human perception. It's simply mother nature and simply how the worlds elements work.
Get real.
Are you questioning Einstein? :0 Why even bring him up to support your point then. Count how many times you contradicted yourself.
Jeez. You never learn.
do you know how data for science is sometimes collected? -
AwfulFallout wrote: »not saying you're wrong but you have to read both sides of the argument
i am not going to go over in depth but there are some things you should read about
scientific theory being flawed
human perception being flawed which results in flawed science
and additionally, science from a christian perspective, i haven't read much on christian science, but from what i have heard there are some pretty good explanations for a variety of things
Although scientific work has historically been flawed (look at Einstein for example). Its foundation is that of math, which is in itself infallible. And although there are holes in our current theories, like that of the Big Bang, each day we learn more and more and none of it pointing towards the existence of a god. But it wont be until perhaps 200+ years (seeing as we're still here) that science will be able to prove the existence of God.
For me it's not about god, it's about religion and it being corrosive to science, that is the fundamental truth of the world and the progress this understanding brings to society. Were it not for science, people would still think the Earth was flat or at the center of the universe. Throughout history, religion has clouded our judgement and subdued us into believing what is told to us rather than finding empirical evidence. I'm not saying to get rid of religion, I believe religion, atleast before basic human rights were established, helped play a pivotal role in our moral compass. I want there to be true secularism in the world, where religion does not interfere with education, scientific research and technological development. Religion has become, in the 20th and 21st century, a nuisance to human progress because it encourages us to stay the way we are, which is what? War, global warming, poverty? -
AwfulFallout wrote: »do you know how data for science is sometimes collected?
Bro, don't go to ones that require humans to give their actual views and preception. Ok no shiet those kinds of experiments would be considered "bias" experiments. Besides, we're not even collecting "data" here. Even if science does have some faults, it has credible and factual truth behind the evidence.....what does religions have? Where does it all come from? You tell me. -
+1Although scientific work has historically been flawed (look at Einstein for example). Its foundation is that of math, which is in itself infallible. And although there are holes in our current theories, like that of the Big Bang, each day we learn more and more and none of it pointing towards the existence of a god. But it wont be until perhaps 200+ years (seeing as we're still here) that science will be able to prove the existence of God.
For me it's not about god, it's about religion and it being corrosive to science, that is the fundamental truth of the world and the progress this understanding brings to society. Were it not for science, people would still think the Earth was flat or at the center of the universe. Throughout history, religion has clouded our judgement and subdued us into believing what is told to us rather than finding empirical evidence. I'm not saying to get rid of religion, I believe religion, atleast before basic human rights were established, helped play a pivotal role in our moral compass. I want there to be true secularism in the world, where religion does not interfere with education, scientific research and technological development. Religion has become, in the 20th and 21st century, a nuisance to human progress because it encourages us to stay the way we are, which is what? War, global warming, poverty?
Chuck Norris hearby grants you the title of Professor Concept. -
aTastyCookii wrote: »Bro, don't go to ones that require humans to give their actual views and preception. Ok no shiet those kinds of experiments would be considered "bias" experiments. Besides, we're not even collecting "data" here. Even if science does have some faults, it has credible and factual truth behind the evidence.....what does religions have? Where does it all come from? You tell me.
is history factual?Although scientific work has historically been flawed (look at Einstein for example). Its foundation is that of math, which is in itself infallible. And although there are holes in our current theories, like that of the Big Bang, each day we learn more and more and none of it pointing towards the existence of a god. But it wont be until perhaps 200+ years (seeing as we're still here) that science will be able to prove the existence of God.
For me it's not about god, it's about religion and it being corrosive to science, that is the fundamental truth of the world and the progress this understanding brings to society. Were it not for science, people would still think the Earth was flat or at the center of the universe. Throughout history, religion has clouded our judgement and subdued us into believing what is told to us rather than finding empirical evidence. I'm not saying to get rid of religion, I believe religion, atleast before basic human rights were established, helped play a pivotal role in our moral compass. I want there to be true secularism in the world, where religion does not interfere with education, scientific research and technological development. Religion has become, in the 20th and 21st century, a nuisance to human progress because it encourages us to stay the way we are, which is what? War, global warming, poverty?
argument goes both ways, scientist are being corrosive to science as well, i don't think religion has clouded judgement, but religious people corrupted science to favor their belief because of lack of understanding,
i believe religion is the "why" and science is the "how," there is just a flaws in both areas that i can not say anyone is wrong for everything, some yes, but not all. -
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AwfulFallout wrote: »is history factual?
argument goes both ways, scientist are being corrosive to science as well, i don't think religion has clouded judgement, but religious people corrupted science to favor their belief because of lack of understanding,
i believe religion is the "why" and science is the "how," there is just a flaws in both areas that i can not say anyone is wrong for everything, some yes, but not all.
If you look at the actual positive impacts religion and science have had on society, you'll come to the conclusion that other than early moral evolution, science has played a much more pivotal role in the success of our civilization.
Einstein said that the religion of the future will not be on focused around worshiping a superior. He said that man will take center stage in future theology. One day, because of science, we will become so powerful that we will deem ourselves gods and value our own success (kind of optimistic i know). Why don't we work towards that rather than worshiping someone else that we don't even know exists or not. In all honesty, I would like to see myself become a god. -
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i copied the article because i knew people would be too lazy to click the link. -
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AwfulFallout wrote: »really religious events can not be dated?
Fixed.IF the calendar didnt account for leap years so the end of the world was supposed to happen a long time ago, sorry to spoil the party
Excuse me?LouisErard wrote: »So you believe in the big bang? tell me more about how can something be created from nothing?
I never said I believed in the Big Bang. I'll just assume you assume I believe in the Big Bang because I'm talking about how Science can be proven.
But since it is not fully proven that the Big Bang exists, I'm going to leave it at that.
I also never said that something can be created from nothing. Please reread my post. I said that about RELIGIOUS History. Which all the myth is actually made up, unlike science buddy. -
aTastyCookii wrote: »
Fixed.
okay you pick one event and say the rest of the events can't be dated because one event can't be dated? is that a valid argument, you can't even date how old the universe is lol, please i am confused here, straighten out the logic -
oh god not another religous quack. i knew i smelt BS around here. same question can be applied to ur "god"
He always existed, he is an infinite being that created everything that is finite.
While on the other hand, the universe isn't infinite and it was created. Therefore the question cannot be applied to my "God". -
AwfulFallout wrote: »okay you pick one event and say the rest of the events can't be dated because one event can't be dated? is that a valid argument, you can't even date how old the universe is lol, please i am confused here, straighten out the logic
Ok.
Logic is right there. I don't know why your always confused of your own argument everytime.
I'll push the ball up on your court a bit more.
As what Willy Wonka said, lol, please tell me a relatively precise date about any religious occuring or event. And precisely we cannot date how old the universe is. But just for the sake of proving YOUR argument, just tell me a religious historical time that you know for a FACT. (Although not actually a fact because no evidence that that godlike magical occurring actually happened.) -
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LouisErard wrote: »He always existed, he is an infinite being that created everything that is finite.
While on the other hand, the universe isn't infinite and it was created. Therefore the question cannot be applied to my "God".
your doggy answer can be applied to the material needed to create the big bang too...so then please tell me all about how carbon dating is wrong?
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