Undercover

PapaRush

8309 wrote: »

so i just got done playing td ship and there was a guy on the other team that had like 134/10 or something... we tried to kick but it didnt happen... so i was going to report... it didnt even give me the option... so what are we supposed to do then... the options we have some people are finding ways around it... i started looking online to see how these hacks work because i have no idea... and i seen that they have hacks that keep you from being kicked... its like anti-votekick or something... do these work... and is that why we cant kick some of these people... even if we do not put someone in the rooms to watch is there a way to revamp or add a different way of getting rid of them... i mean if someone on your own team says hey you gotta go but the rest of your team says no we want to win so they vote against it and you stay i think that is a huge problem... and on these replays can you see what eveyone is saying? these people will confirm all of that on their own... and when they do that i think all of those people that keep trying to vote no for them to leave an incouraging kacking should get a temp or warning ban...

Search forums. You will learn how to report. It does not give you the option of reporting at the end of a game, only the option to save the replay.

sowers26

so i just got done playing fortress TD and there are alot of aim botting going on... but i seen one i havent seen before... he was flying but he was laying down... what the hell is that... and of course his team didnt want to kick him... he ended up with like 87/1... i think if you find that someone is hacking and the team votes against the kick or wont even start on the whole team should get a ban for protecting a hack... that makes them just as guilty... it was getting better for a min.... but now it is getting worse again... and they keep saying "Im PRO" 1 shot 1 kill in the head every time is not PRO... maybe PRO hack... i have gotten my ass handed to me by a couple of pro players but you can tell a diff... but today i did lie and tell the other team that it was already in place that if one was found to hack and the team protected them they all were going to get banned and low and behold they started to vote till he was gone... not everyone wants to be kicked for one idiot... i still think we need someone, even if it is just one or two people, to log in and just start going room to room playing or just watching, and kicking hacks... just that would bring it way down i think...

sowers26

good god... when do these hackin kids go back to school... every room i went in to there were atleast 3 hackin... i came in to Egypt TD about half way through the time(this is the worse one) and the Ace had 122/3. I stayed in spawn and just watched him.. he would just run in and spin around killing everyone around... people shooting him, and nades going off at his feet and it was like he just would not die..#2 had like 40/5... i mean really...our highest at that time was 10/22 i have seen some people sayin that hackers have taken too much heat... well what do you expect... you hack you take heat for hackin... you can tell the diff between people that can play and hacks MOST of the time... and the ones that just know how to play i joke with them every time they kill me.. just so they know i dont think that they are a hack... and i have had some even say thank you... and now when you start a vote kick, right at the end of the vote it jumps from say 8/1 to 8/7.. and it does not go through... even the people on their team are sayin what the hell... I am guessing it is an anti-votekick hack that i have read about... i know that cf is getting tired of hearing about hackin but we are getting tired of having to deal with it... i still vote for having a GM at the least bounce around in the rooms that are doing the day to day missions and watch for hacks... we need a live person watching and not an automated anti hack. obviously that isnt working...and this is all just how I feel... I have no idea what goes into all of that... but if i could help in any way that i am not now i would... i love the game just not the hack... just dont understand why they hack... is it cause they just cant play without it?? do they suck that bad??

sowers26

Hey rush... i didnt mean report in the one post... it didnt give me the option to save... but in the past 3 days i have reported 32 OBVIOUS wall hacks/cheaters... i didnt even worry about the aimbots etc... all those were, were the wall hack/cheaters..thank you for your advice though... it did help me report quicker...

GoldCookies

its_matt wrote: »

I imagine it would take a bit of time to develop in-game powers, but it really is worth doing, and could signifigantly scare the hacking community.

Yes, a very tiny bit of time. Because all MODs need, GMs have on their accounts. So basically what developers have to do is just remove some of the options that GMs have (ex: god mode, that scrolling announcement thingy etc.) and MOD account is ready.

Cubiss

xAFTERMATHx wrote: »

Idk if this has been suggested before but i want undercover GM, MODs and volunteers to kick people they see are obvious hack without the need to kick vote. Obviously they save replay too make sure they where hacking and for records. If three of these people that have the power to auto kick, kick the same player in different matches the same day he gets a 30min-1 hour auto ban. After that ban is lifted from the player and he hacks again and gets kicked by the Undercover they should get a 1 day auto ban and after that it just doubles but this only happens if its a different Undercover that kicks him. It should also be announced that there will be Undercovers but not their names obviously, in order to prevent some people from hacking.

Another suggestion is in order to go to any other channel besides trainee you should be Staff Sergent 1. After that is done The volunteer Undercovers would have it easier because they would only have to go to trainee channel in order to kick most hackers.

Also i believe if they would let some volunteers from here in the forums to have the sole job of banning hackers after watching replays the amount there would be will greatly be reduced.

I'm guessing i speak for a lot of people and not just me that i run into around 5 obvious hackers a day or more so even if we only have 11 Undercover ... 11x5 =55x7 = 385 a week :S and that's only the Undercovers. Eventually they would be banned so fast that there will only be hackers in the trainee channel who keep creating accounts. After that, hackers or people that use hacks will get bored of making accounts and geting them banned as soon as they start hacking reducing the amount of hackers.

It would not hurt to try all these methods for one week and if the undercover greatly abuse their power then they get a 1 day ban and also my suggested methods get removed.

IF Z8 THINKS they would lose customers because some of these hackers actually buy ZP they are wrong. Many people don't bother getting ZP because there is no point in getting it if there are so many hackers that ruin the fun of the game. If there were less hackers i would buy ZP and so would many others.

we're all talking about these nowadays, would be effective.

[MOD]LobsterMts wrote: »

how could you suggest something like that?
I mean, if they were undercover, how would you know if there aren't undercover GMs already?

let's be honest, where are they ?
there are several mod's and you are so busy we know.
we do believe in your effort of keeping game clear but you also know that this is not enough.

you remember mIRC ?
/k nickname: kick for a period
/b nickname: ban for a period

wouldn't something like that be effective ?

you should trust some members of these community and you should give some ingame power to them. this is a sensitive decision but not impossible.

Chimpzz

FrozenSyther wrote: »

11 or so MODs vs more than hundreds or even thousands of hackers.

They would pretty much clear all. One game of GM 4 hackers

xAFTERMATHx

Chimpzz wrote: »

They would pretty much clear all. One game of GM 4 hackers

Yes there is a lot of instances where there are several hackers in one room and that would make it much easier to get them kicked and later banned (unless that's their third kick from an Undercover, they would get the auto ban).

M4A1soldierr

Nice propasal, to ban the hackers in-game! I hope the crossfire community is considering to actually get the proposal trough, because I would love the game so much more without hackers...

Vigo]

I thought they already had undercover GMs in game?

xAFTERMATHx

If there where then there would be much less hackers...

IceMan52144

This again...
There are GM's that play undercover and ban directly from game. Some of us Mods play on other accounts as well. We just dont have in game powers right now. We will never have the in game ban powers as theres too much liability that comes with that. It most likely will be kick from server and not be kicked from normal players.

xAFTERMATHx

[MOD]Iceman wrote: »

This again...
There are GM's that play undercover and ban directly from game. Some of us Mods play on other accounts as well. We just dont have in game powers right now. We will never have the in game ban powers as theres too much liability that comes with that. It most likely will be kick from server and not be kicked from normal players.

If you read my original post you would have seen that they wouldn't have the power to ban... only to kick the hacker without having to do a kick vote. IF they get 3 kicks from these Undercovers within 24 hours (or more) they will get an auto ban for 30min-1 hour and after the ban is gone and they get kicked once more by an undercover then the ban will double every time even if its not the same day. Also if this does go through it should be announced that there will be Undercovers but will NOT say who will be and how the system will work. Will edit my original post once more so people can understand it better even tho i made it very clear...

Should read the rest from my original post so you can get the idea.

WHAT proof do you have that there are GM that are in game banning? And if so it most likely is just 1 maybe 2 which is not enough and like i said even 11 would make a big difference and that's only the in game ones not counting the ones reviewing the replays us legit players report. I'm sure there are plenty player who will gladly volunteer to do ether of these tasks and i am one of them.