The Ultimate Melee Guide
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Yay, melee guide is finally out
I couldn't post these last couple of days and support had to change my forum name so this is my first time seeing it.
I read it all, great job as I expected it to be, really helpfull and interesting.
One more time Good job
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GodsGunman wrote: »So instead of giving me credit for the stats I gave you, you completely rip me off? Fix it via what I told you in your VM, or we will have big issues. Seems this is what I get for trusting you with my information, but it's not too late if you fix it.
Read it thoroughly, page 2
He did give you credit
And even if he didn't , it's not like he meant to >.> -
Read it thoroughly, page 2
He did give you credit
And even if he didn't , it's not like he meant to >.>
I gave him specific instructions that wherever he uses my stats, my name goes beside. He did not follow those instructions, and he had better fix it or as I said we'll have big issues. -
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You get that it's actually quite ridiculous to rage about something in a game that you already gave up and quit ( at least that's what you said 2 days ago, maybe you already changed your opinion on that).GodsGunman wrote: »I gave him specific instructions that wherever he uses my stats, my name goes beside. He did not follow those instructions, and he had better fix it or as I said we'll have big issues.
Just sayin'.. -
You get that it's actually quite ridiculous to rage about something in a game that you already gave up and quit ( at least that's what you said 2 days ago, maybe you already changed your opinion on that).
Just sayin'..
Did he quit ? O.o
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You get that it's actually quite ridiculous to rage about something in a game that you already gave up and quit ( at least that's what you said 2 days ago, maybe you already changed your opinion on that).
Just sayin'..
I've already stated I will still play now and then as well as keep my website running and keep doing stuff with CFDB, I'm simply not going to be an active forumer anymore or play very much.
All I want is what was promised to me, that is all.Did he quit ? O.o
Why ?
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Have fun readying all the drama.Did he quit ? O.o
Why ?
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Well in the end he gave you the credit for your stats, I don't get why he needs to mark everything he took from you, but well it's up to you and Nonnen what you two arranged, I shouldn't get into anything I'm not involved into.GodsGunman wrote: »I've already stated I will still play now and then as well as keep my website running and keep doing stuff with CFDB, I'm simply not going to be an active forumer anymore or play very much.
All I want is what was promised to me, that is all. -
You still didn't send me the grammatical mistakes he did I've been sitting on my computer for the past 2 days waiting for this!
First wave sent, still trying to find a way to go around the messages though.. I can't send him a message longer than 5500 characters. But my message with 2nd wave of mistakes is over 9038 words and has over 21 images. Still trying to find a way around them. >.>
I would split them in half but.. it's complicated on how I'll do so. -
You guide is amazing.
There are some minor spelling and syntax errors.
Some of the melee's damages are somewhat inconsistent, by a rang of +-5. For example, Kris head AC was 97 in one of my experiences. On of the more off thing is, I got 30 damage from a Kukri many times.
It has been my experience that the distance you are from the enemy does affect you damage rate. -
Okay Gods, you really want to be like that? Then you can get what you want. (after I have played with you a lil bit )
So you really want that I highlight your name in this partThe important thing which can be learned by practicing is to know about your range. An easy thing to know is that all melees except the Katana (which has a range of 3,5m) and the Warmonger Fists (which have a range of 2,75m) have a range of 3 meters.
The actual hit-range (also called hit-box) is different with every melee and you should try every melee out to know which melee has which hit-range.
So you could start practicing with something easy to use like the Kukri, then Axe, then the Knife. Special and lovely thanks to GodsGunman for providing me this information!!
like this? Is this what you want? I shall reflect from the actual guide and the reader's attention just because you specially want that I highlight you? Isn't it enough that I didGodsGunman: Thank you for testing out the ranges of every melee weapon, that was very helpfull, And you told me how to figure out the speeds of the meelees!
this? Shall I get you a candy so you're pleased?
The information you gave me wasGodsGunman wrote:The units I'm using may change over time since I'm not 100% if this is meters or not, but I do know that these are the correct ratios between weapons, I just had to assign a unit to them.
The katana and katana gold have a range of 3.5 meters, and the warmonger fist things have a range of 2.75 meters.
Every other melee weapon in the game at this time has a range of 3 meters, no exceptions. That means that yes, the shovel has the same length as the knife, and yes, the brass knuckles have a longer range than the warmonger fists.
this. Many other people gave me much more information / did more things for me and are fine with a part in the special thanks.
Besides that I offered you that you can post your information on your own, but as I saw how tiny these information has been, I couldn't make a own part for it, so I put it in a general part with other bullet-points, and I said I will do it in this way and give you credit for it. You never said in which way and you never said you're not against being in the special thanks.
Just for clearing that up, if you really want that, I may think over it, because I would have to do it for every single person then, which would be quite.. awkward.
Also, you saidGodsGunman wrote:If you end up posting about the slash/stab times of melee weapons, I also want credit every single time you post anything to do with slash/stab times, saying I told you how to get them.
because you gave meGodsGunman wrote:Well to find how long it takes to knife you just record in game witch a screen recorder at let's say 100 frames per second. Then, you find the first frame that the melee weapon starts to move, then you find the frame where it hits the wall or whatever you're aiming at, then you subtract the final frame by the first frame that you just figured out, and divide it by 100 (or by however many frames per second you're doing).
Then you get the speed of the slash/stab.
this information? I won't list you in any of my videos, I would have done if you haven't made such a panic, but I really don't have to, because MisterMunzta and thisgameowns told it me already before you did it. My actual question was how to set the timer / stop it, no how to get the melees speed, that's quite obvious, but okay.
Also youGodsGunman wrote:You have 24 hours to reply before I get really ****ed and start something about this, and I won't be nearly so nice about it. Just because I mainly quit Cross Fire does not mean I won't leave my site up and still work on it, and I will still be a part of CFDB as long as they keep going. You can make an enemy, or a powerful friend. The choice is yours, and you just ****ed me off.
say this to me? What do you think you are? Are you a GM who can give me a dead-line? I don't think so.
So, if you still want that , or please whatever you want, I might think over it, because I have given you credit as it has been stated by several persons already. -
GodsGunman wrote: »So instead of giving me credit for the stats I gave you, you completely rip me off? Fix it via what I told you in your VM, or we will have big issues. Seems this is what I get for trusting you with my information, but it's not too late if you fix it.GodsGunman wrote: »I gave him specific instructions that wherever he uses my stats, my name goes beside. He did not follow those instructions, and he had better fix it or as I said we'll have big issues.
Instead of thanks, you are trying to show that hes guide is lame and that they could follow only yours. You are such a disgrace Gods.You should atleast being happy to be proud to be in this part. But you are trying to rip him off and giving all credits to you. Because you did made first guide and youtube videos. Why don't you just go out. You officaly said you quit on forums. Then why you keep persisting to be there and talking non sense. You have no respect to other peoples. If i was ElseHD i would delete you immidiatly from special thanks. Because you are nohting more then ungreatfull B.....d -
iBullishRawr wrote: »You guide is amazing.
There are some minor spelling and syntax errors.
Some of the melee's damages are somewhat inconsistent, by a rang of +-5. For example, Kris head AC was 97 in one of my experiences. On of the more off thing is, I got 30 damage from a Kukri many times.
It has been my experience that the distance you are from the enemy does affect you damage rate.
It never did 97 for me, and I don't think it has something to do with range, because Knife Shotter do still the same amount of damages.
But thanks for telling me!
30 for a Kukri.. this can't really be, if you make a video hitting someone and showing me the reg , I might change it, but I never saw this before.Instead of thanks, you are trying to show that hes guide is lame and that they could follow only yours. You are such a disgrace Gods.You should atleast being happy to be proud to be in this part. But you are trying to rip him off and giving all credits to you. Because you did made first guide and youtube videos. Why don't you just go out. You officaly said you quit on forums. Then why you keep persisting to be there and talking non sense. You have no respect to other peoples. If i was ElseHD i would delete you immidiatly from special thanks. Because you are nohting more then ungreatfull .......
Exactly my feelings, I don't know what he's trying to say here.. -
It never did 97 for me, and I don't think it has something to do with range, because Knife Shotter do still the same amount of damages.
But thanks for telling me! 30 for a Kukri.. this can't really be, if you make a video hitting someone and showing me the reg , I might change it, but I never saw this before.
Exactly my feelings, I don't know what he's trying to say here..
He is trying to show that you're guide is a joke unlike hes "specific and exact" thread about the guns. Ok he did done hes work about the guns and we are greatfull. But that doesn't mean that he have rights to spit on others guides.
If i did made zombie mode guide about what weapons are good for zombie mode and what are bad ones, i could bet he would say: HAHA nice joke but my guide is precise and everyone should just see my guide.
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It's a very simple fix, I don't understand the problem.
All you have to do is something along the lines of the following any and every time you use information or advice that I gave you:- The important thing which can be learned by practicing is to know about your range. An easy thing to know is that all melees except the Katana (which has a range of 3,5m) and the Warmonger Fists (which have a range of 2,75m) have a range of 3 meters. Credits to GodsGunman for finding the ranges.
You don't even have to put it in red, I just did that so you can see it easier in the quote.
If you were going to use the advice I gave you for getting the slash/stab timings, all you'd have to do is add in "Credits to GodsGunman for providing the technique to find the stab/slash timings", or something along those lines.
Obviously I can't go over every example since you haven't implemented everything, but you should be able to figure out what to say and where to say it.
You chose to accept my conditions when you didn't have to. Don't make yourself a liar and a backstabber. -
GodsGunman wrote: »You chose to accept my conditions when you didn't have to. Don't make yourself a liar and a backstabber.
You never said how you want to have it...? and now you come here and blame me...?
eeehhhh... instead of writing this message first, no, you have to blame me.. I would have fixed it.. seriously...
You have to give me dead-lines and warnings about making threads to blame me... go to the hospital manPeter_North wrote: »or what? what are you going to do?
nobody even cares. you and gods are such tools, rofl
really? better go read the internet laws before coming here. just because it's the internet doesn't mean you can steal and copy whatever you want.
I just have written it so I don't see my guide on every CF Forum site without mentioning my name at least or asking me. -
You never said how you want to have it...? and now you come here and blame me...?
eeehhhh... instead of writing this message first, no, you have to blame me.. I would have fixed it.. seriously...
You have to give me dead-lines and warnings about making threads to blame me... go to the hospital man
The 24 hours was simply a warning since I was ****ed, especially because at the time I didn't realize you had posted more credits on the second page.
I did tell you how I "want to have it". I specifically said beside any and all information that I give you, I want to be credited there.
It's not like I made a thread about this, in 10 more posts nobody will see these posts again and they'll be lost in the pages of posts. The faster this gets fixed the less people will see these posts. -
GodsGunman wrote: »beside any and all information that I give you
beside. Sorry that I haven't read/forgot that. You could have just remind me.
I'm not that kind of a person who "backstabs", you should know that or at least don't think that at the first chance.Awesome guide Nonne,dont change a thing :rolleyes:
Thanks Huggy
Anyone who spends time and effort doing something has the right to make permissions and stop people from stealing his work.
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really? better go read the internet laws before coming here. just because it's the internet doesn't mean you can steal and copy whatever you want.
I just have written it so I don't see my guide on every CF Forum site without mentioning my name at least or asking me.
internet laws? hahaha. what's going to happen? i'm going to jail because i used your crummy/inaccurate damage guide on a game forum? sorry bro, no such law.
you can't do jack. i'm sorry you have so much ego that you want your name to be seen everywhere possible.
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