New Kicking Method
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[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »If this game was meant to be farmed in, then CF would be providing the cows. Since CF doesn't provide cows, farming is not how you're suppose to play. Ranks were meant to be a reward for hard work, not hard farming. So no, we don't have to be impartial on farming. We frown upon it. The only reason why we tolerate it is because it's not illegal to look for 8 morons who are willing to allow themselves to be shot in the heads without putting up a fight.
So if it's technically not apart of Cross Fire, why do we consider it when suggesting ideas? Shouldn't we ignore the fact that people farm because it's not how the game is meant to be played? There are many people out there who have earned their high rank. -
In fact the game mechanics as such allow it, no matter wether it was meant to be like that or not. They could simply make it unable to start a game 1 vs 8 instead of continuously lowering the exp rates.[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »If this game was meant to be farmed in, then CF would be providing the cows. Since CF doesn't provide cows, farming is not how you're suppose to play. Ranks were meant to be a reward for hard work, not hard farming. So no, we don't have to be impartial on farming. We frown upon it. The only reason why we tolerate it is because it's not illegal to look for 8 morons who are willing to allow themselves to be shot in the heads without putting up a fight.
Lowering these damages even the legit player, making it unable to start 1vs8 won't damage any legit player. Anyways, I'm getting off-topic.
In fact farmers are people like everyone else in this game, they even pay for it, therefore they should be treated like everyone else, no matter wether they spend their time in a private room or not, it doesn't harm you in any way.
Indeed there are exceptions, if there's a troll coming on forums braging about what rank he got or whatever I don't expect anyone to be quiet and not say anything, because this in fact offends people who worked for their rank hard to get it legitly.
In short: as long as they're quiet and don't offend you there's no reason for you to judge about them. -
Gh0st_Slay3r wrote: »Any rank can hack tho.... So if A high rank just joins a room of low ranks then they got no way of kicking him what so ever
Maybe add an exception that the next rank below the high ranked player can kick him once.Last night we banned a Lt. Colonel for hacking, who had a Major account that was banned before for the same reason. How many of you guys would have been able to kick either one of his accounts if this idea had been implemented?
It's not that hard to farm your way to a high rank before turning on your hacks. It happens more often than you would think. -
[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »Last night we banned a Lt. Colonel for hacking, who had a Major account that was banned before for the same reason. How many of you guys would have been able to kick either one of his accounts if this idea had been implemented?
It's not that hard to farm your way to a high rank before turning on your hacks. It happens more often than you would think.
If its so bad y not close this -
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SU_IC_ID_AL wrote: »!! FACT !! Vote kick system works, there is no doubt about that, as it is.
Problem lies with the community its them that abuse the system, doesn't matter what kick vote system you use its allways going to be unfare as long as the players have control ..
True that may be, but there is ways to improve the vote kick system.DarkVengence1 wrote: »So if a noob comes in to a game with mostly LT's and hacks he can't get kicked? dumb
You don't understand this idea. You can kick anyone under your rank, just not everyone above your rank.[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »Last night we banned a Lt. Colonel for hacking, who had a Major account that was banned before for the same reason. How many of you guys would have been able to kick either one of his accounts if this idea had been implemented?
It's not that hard to farm your way to a high rank before turning on your hacks. It happens more often than you would think.
Ask datFarmer how long it takes to farm a LT Colonel, then come back to me and tell me again how easy it is to farm a high rank.[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »Because as long as they don't break the rules, people are allowed to make even bad suggestions.
Rather than beaking all over my suggestion, you should think about how you treat other players, considering you're a moderator. Calling someones idea bad is a total put down, definitely not what Z8Games is looking for, instead you could improve on the idea, or get out. -
' wrote:[cLue;3230100']They should make the limit of kicking people more, instead of 1.
Why? This means more of a chance for a legit player that's doing good to get kicked. I don't even see the kick vote system being used for hacks anymore, honestly. I'll go into Alaska and the other team will have a hacker, and they don't mind, they would just like the win; either that, or they are unaware of the situation because they're talking with symbols rather than using the English language like everyone else. -
No high rank farming ey!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0vH--mw50&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL2vyLA3moc
(u can find many more by searching!!)
I think they shuld add a limit on kick voting and hour or even day. For example only 5 kicks an hour in any game mode Why? u ask so you think hmmmm is that guy really hacking? or am i just QQin. And anyways i alwasy get kicked by the portuguese speaking community and i know what they say before im kicked i speak portuguese too.. and it aint nice just because i speak english :S or have lower ping. -
It's still like 5% that a major will be cheating.
Just yeah.
U'd be surprised how many majors cheat. It's vomitrocious, just go play some Clan Server matches. You will be surprised.
OT: I don't really like this idea, I want to kick anybody that cheats; doesn't matter what rank. -
[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »Nope, it couldn't for various reasons stated in this thread.
Every idea has it's flaws. If you would respect my suggestion a bit more, that would be kind of you. It's still up for discussion, putting people down as soon as they post isn't how I'd like my thread to be run.
Thanks.OT: I don't really like this idea, I want to kick anybody that cheats; doesn't matter what rank.
This is less for the fact of cheaters, because in reality, Z8Games should be constantly throwing out patches that fix hacks. Put hacks aside, and think about the system, rather than basing the whole suggestion over hackers. A private comes into your room, ends up being 0-8, or something sad like that, gets mad, so he kicks the best player on his team, who happens to be you, 25-7, the vote kick is approved, and the private leaves the game to continue with his/her daily life.
The objective of this suggestion is to prevent players who are a lower level than you from
kicking you for no reason. People tend to kick because they are jealous, and it's usually
a lower rank trying to do so.xAFTERMATHx wrote: »No high rank farming ey!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0vH--mw50&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL2vyLA3moc
(u can find many more by searching!!)
I'm glad you posted this! True dedicated farmers pretty much stick to their OWN rooms, which are usually locked, and full of cows (you can ask DatFarmer, he does this daily). They don't come out a lot, and they farm for a reason; because this game is already somewhat corrupt, and playing in pubs isn't possible when you're constantly going 30-5 because you're better than everyone else. Though you may think it defeats the purpose of the game, they're really just skipping one of the most annoying parts of Cross Fire, and getting a higher rank.
As I said before, I don't think players are going to be like, "Oh hey, a new vote kick system, better go farm for 4 months straight to get Major rank so I can't be kicked!"RequiemZero wrote: »Let's add more benefits to farming! The farmers will start hacking because no one can kick them. Awesomesauce.
This is why there is a report system in place. You're expected to report hackers, otherwise they'll go nowhere anyways. Farming a high rank such as Major can take many hours a day for months at a time. I'm sure if they were banned because you reported them, they wouldn't bother coming back because of how long they wasted on Cross Fire, just farming. Not many high ranks are willing to risk their accounts by hacking anyways, as previously said in this thread. -
Every idea has it's flaws. If you would respect my suggestion a bit more, that would be kind of you. It's still up for discussion, putting people down as soon as they post isn't how I'd like my thread to be run.
Thanks.You can't just demand respect. Respect is earned. Through the ages stupid ideas have demanded to be respected, with bloody holy wars as a result of it
If you can't take honest critique, then don't post your ideas. They don't get respect by default. -
Haven't seen other posts besides the OPs.
What if there was one captain in a room full of Sargent Majors or SFCs. Lets say that captain was an account that was scammed therefore compromised. The "new" owners of the captain account were hacking on it.
How would the captain be kicked from the room? -
Haven't seen other posts besides the OPs.
What if there was one captain in a room full of Sargent Majors or SFCs. Lets say that captain was an account that was scammed therefore compromised. The "new" owners of the captain account were hacking on it.
How would the captain be kicked from the room?
Theyd be fcked unless they had a high enuf friend an not even scammed wat if the captain sold it -
Haven't seen other posts besides the OPs.
What if there was one captain in a room full of Sargent Majors or SFCs. Lets say that captain was an account that was scammed therefore compromised. The "new" owners of the captain account were hacking on it.
How would the captain be kicked from the room?It wouldn't even have to be a scammed account. We both know how easy it is for hackers to farm their account to a high rank. Like a certain someone who reached the rank of Major in little over a week. -
[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »Last night we banned a Lt. Colonel for hacking, who had a Major account that was banned before for the same reason. How many of you guys would have been able to kick either one of his accounts if this idea had been implemented?
It's not that hard to farm your way to a high rank before turning on your hacks. It happens more often than you would think.
Most cheaters buy accounts.
I would have hoped a moderator would've know that.
Edit:Haven't seen other posts besides the OPs.
What if there was one captain in a room full of Sargent Majors or SFCs. Lets say that captain was an account that was scammed therefore compromised. The "new" owners of the captain account were hacking on it.
How would the captain be kicked from the room?
Impressive 9.
Just found a major for 30 bucks, 4 perm zp guns. No honorable. Not linking for obvious reasons.
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SmokeDaily, you have 3 types of hackers.
The dumb ones that download free hacks that are easily picked up by Xtrap.
Even Dumber ones that not only pay for a harder to detect hack or VIP hack, and a high ranking account to go with it.
And you have the real scum of the earth. The hackers that make and sell these hacks as well as these high ranking accounts.
Most accounts sold are farmed accounts. And they are usually farmed for sale by hackers.
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