New Kicking Method

So what I was thinking is that from one rank, you can only kick so many ranks above you (and all ranks that are below you).

E.g.

Smiley can only kick to the Sargent First Class level.
Sargent First Class can kick to 2nd LT
2nd LT can kick to Captain
(Etc.)

I just notice that sometimes if a newbie is doing bad, before they leave they tend to kick a higher rank player (seems to happen often in Alaska EM), so this would kind of prevent that, and this system honestly makes more sense to me than the current one where its just a bit free for all when it comes to vote kicking.

(No I didn't just get kicked, haven't been kicked in quite a while, just seems like a logical suggestion)
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  • allGoat wrote: »
    So what I was thinking is that from one rank, you can only kick so many ranks above you (and all ranks that are below you).

    E.g.

    Smiley can only kick to the Sargent First Class level.
    Sargent First Class can kick to 2nd LT
    2nd LT can kick to Captain
    (Etc.)

    I just notice that sometimes if a newbie is doing bad, before they leave they tend to kick a higher rank player (seems to happen often in Alaska EM), so this would kind of prevent that, and this system honestly makes more sense to me than the current one where its just a bit free for all when it comes to vote kicking.

    (No I didn't just get kicked, haven't been kicked in quite a while, just seems like a logical suggestion)
    HEY HEY HEY,logical is my word sir, i will show you my rights to ownership maybe later. But yeah its not a bad idea, there is a conspiracy of smileys kicking high ranks. I guess i would agree with anything if smileys dont have the right to kick 2nd lt+
  • its not fun when rookies kick a fat major like me ;s

    I suggested this a year ago..
  • Or just a +2nd lt server like I and several others already suggested.
  • Well, this method would also have some flaws.. What if there's a major hacking but no captain+ to kick him?
  • uDream wrote: »
    Well, this method would also have some flaws.. What if there's a major hacking but no captain+ to kick him?

    It's still like 5% that a major will be cheating.
    Just yeah.
  • Bobled wrote: »
    It's still like 5% that a major will be cheating.
    Just yeah.
    Even if the chances are low, it's still possible - and this could be like that with other ranks aswell..
  • I would like this a lot. Last night I was playing some GM, and I was 9-0 on the Bl side. Before I know it, I'm being kicked. My ENTIRE team was made up of smiley ranks with names like "wasfvksldkk" and "svwofwqdkc" It just really ****es me off when I get kicked by these idiots that can't handle when someone has skill. Apparently theres no such thing as "skill" or "luck" in this game anymore, because if you happen to have any of it, you ALWAYS get kicked. They need to find a better solution to this.
  • uDream wrote: »
    Even if the chances are low, it's still possible - and this could be like that with other ranks aswell..

    Ive seen a ton if em hacking
  • Yeah, it would be nice !!
    But the high rank could kick everyone he wants ? (This is the part I don't agree however this system will be better than the one we got now)
  • +1
    This is a nice idea, especially for CF Europe where farming is forbidden, and this system would work pretty nicely imo. But I don't know how would this system work here since everyone can get high ranks in just a couple of days by farming.
  • uDream wrote: »
    Well, this method would also have some flaws.. What if there's a major hacking but no captain+ to kick him?
    uDream wrote: »
    Even if the chances are low, it's still possible - and this could be like that with other ranks aswell..

    Let me ask you this.

    Do you want a solution that prevents 99% of abuse kicks towards high ranks at the cost of a slight chance you'll run into a Major+ rank hacking? Or do you want to keep the current system where anyone can kick anyone for any reason and the ones that get kicked most often are the legit high rank players because the low ranks are jealous of them?

    From my experience, high rank hackers are very rare. For every 100 blatant hackers I see, only 1-2 are higher then Master sergeant.
  • uDream wrote: »
    Even if the chances are low, it's still possible - and this could be like that with other ranks aswell..

    True. Played cw against a hacking LT colonel yesterday.
  • Of course it would at some point help high ranks not to get kicked, but see it from another perspective: if you're new to this game and have a low rank and you have no opportunity on kicking higher-ranked hackers, not even Master Seargents, how'd you feel?

    I'd prefer a 2nd LT+ server over this idea, in the end both will have the same effect on vote kick.
  • uDream wrote: »
    Of course it would at some point help high ranks not to get kicked, but see it from another perspective: if you're new to this game and have a low rank and you have no opportunity on kicking higher-ranked hackers, not even Master Seargents, how'd you feel?

    I'd prefer a 2nd LT+ server over this idea, in the end both will have the same effect on vote kick.

    I'd to like a high rank server instead as well (And No BS behind it like Z8s trial run for it).

    To answer your question, I'd feel like I need to earn the privilege to kick others from the game rather then be given the right to and use/abuse it.

    Also most low ranks aren't new to this game, most of them have had to remake accounts to continue playing for various reasons and are jealous at the high ranks for still having their accounts.
  • it'll help kick abuse but, still won't fix ignorance. hackers still won't get kick most of the time.
  • OniPony wrote: »
    it'll help kick abuse but, still won't fix ignorance. hackers still won't get kick most of the time.

    Yeah, unless about half the room is high rank players, I rarely see a hacker get kicked.
    I've had a game recently with a Aim.bot hacker literally flying around headshoting everyone and both times I kicked him the results was 4/12...
  • VATAV wrote: »
    Yeah, unless about half the room is high rank players, I rarely see a hacker get kicked.
    I've had a game recently with a Aim.bot hacker literally flying around headshoting everyone and both times I kicked him the results was 4/12...

    Sometimes that happens and of course sometimes its a matter ppl dont wanna try to kick like in a prison match earlier i saw a waller noone else tried to kick then i did 14/2
  • njeppero wrote: »
    its not fun when rookies kick a fat major like me ;s

    I suggested this a year ago..

    Sorry, I honestly did not search for the suggestion, I should have before suggesting it.
    Or just a +2nd lt server like I and several others already suggested.

    This is definitely a good idea. I know the UK servers had a Sargent First Class+ Server, but that really isn't enough. I'd say the majority of the hackers are in the Sargent ranks, and less % of hackers as you go up in ranks.
    uDream wrote: »
    Well, this method would also have some flaws.. What if there's a major hacking but no captain+ to kick him?

    You wouldn't see that too often, because most would not want to risk an account that high. If thats the case, it happens. Could just report, and the player could lose their account.

    Thanks for all the responses, I enjoyed reading them.
  • how about - NO
    IMHO that is dunb idea since there will be still abused, and high ranks will get advantages from that (also higher ranked players are cheating) and if they eneter the game where are many low ranks - he will just farm them.
  • This idea would only promote more farming. Creating more high rank players with the skills of a rookie player, that can't be kicked, for example for spraying his M60 in Ghost Mode, because he can't pin point breath, and abusing his high rank to kick those that actually taking the time to learn how to play.

    Farming is why we can't tie kick voting to either ranks or scores.
  • Then again guys think about we have more PRO players then hackers right now and i rarely see one right now. But i doubt they care about pro players then rookie players.
  • This idea would only promote more farming. Creating more high rank players with the skills of a rookie player, that can't be kicked, for example for spraying his M60 in Ghost Mode, because he can't pin point breath, and abusing his high rank to kick those that actually taking the time to learn how to play.

    Farming is why we can't tie kick voting to either ranks or scores.
    - Not ment to offend you in any way, but shouldn't MODs be impartial? You shouldn't be hating on these peoples that farmed (I'm not saying this because I used to farm 2 years back, actually I changed my opinion about farming) as they don't bother you in any way.
    Even if you're getting called a farmer in pubs, that's not the fault of the farmers, that's the fault of the other people hating on farmers. I can't really think of any reasonable reason that makes you hate farmers, enlighten me.
  • As someone above said: who is going to farm their rank to be able to kick? This system would have more pros than cons from what I've been thinking about, I simply don't understand how it is such a bad idea.
  • So if a noob comes in to a game with mostly LT's and hacks he can't get kicked? dumb
  • !! FACT !! Vote kick system works, there is no doubt about that, as it is.
    Problem lies with the community its them that abuse the system, doesn't matter what kick vote system you use its allways going to be unfare as long as the players have control ..
  • uDream wrote: »
    - Not ment to offend you in any way, but shouldn't MODs be impartial? You shouldn't be hating on these peoples that farmed (I'm not saying this because I used to farm 2 years back, actually I changed my opinion about farming) as they don't bother you in any way.
    Even if you're getting called a farmer in pubs, that's not the fault of the farmers, that's the fault of the other people hating on farmers. I can't really think of any reasonable reason that makes you hate farmers, enlighten me.
    If this game was meant to be farmed in, then CF would be providing the cows. Since CF doesn't provide cows, farming is not how you're suppose to play. Ranks were meant to be a reward for hard work, not hard farming. So no, we don't have to be impartial on farming. We frown upon it. The only reason why we tolerate it is because it's not illegal to look for 8 morons who are willing to allow themselves to be shot in the heads without putting up a fight.