Quick scoping vs regular sniping
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I personally think it depends on the range of the shot and what situation that player is placed in. If someone quickscopes long range multiple times, it is pretty pro. Whereas if it's close range, it's nothing special. Drag scopes aren't pro unless they are flicked from long range. All in all, I would say a long range quickscope vs real, long range flick scope would be pretty similar on a scale.
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Both are good and non of them is "pro" or "noob". You have to check the situation and then decide which one is better. People who call a quick scopper a noob are noobs themselves. He is doing nothing wrong, this is a part of the game and if it's good, why not use it? In other situations it is better to "hardscope", but this doesn't makes the player a noob.
The only noob here is the one that got killed by the sniper. -
L_OVER_BO_Y wrote: »You dont call a hardscoper or quickscoper a noob but you do call someone a noob when he/she get killed by a sniper how do that make sense?
Really, do you have nothing better to do then following me and trying to annoy me? You guys call me a troll but you guys are the one that follow me, insult me and attack me for no reason.
Anyway, neither a hardscope nor the quicksoper are noobs, both are legit strategies.
The Sniper has pros and cons, the con is that it has a slow firing rate and no crosshair but the pro is that it kills with one shot. A sniper is not overpowered because in many cases it is bad. Like when 2 guys are standing in front of you.
Hardscopeing is not noobish because this is the way you use a sniper. When the enemy is far away you can kill him better when your sniper is zoomed in.
A Hardscoper that kills his enemy with one shot is not a noob. A quikscoper that needs 3 shots to kill his enemy is a noob.
But a quickscoper is not a noob too. First off all it is not easy to quickscope, many players can't do it and I fail at quickscoping a few times too. Now let's say you are in a small map, in a map like this you quickscope, someone that hardscopes in this map is a totally noob because he wont see his enemies.
The thing is you have to analyze the situation and find the right thing to do. If you are in a big map, then you should hardscope and if you are in a small map then you should quickscope.
same goes for camping. Camping is not noobish, it is a legit strategies. Let's say you are a GR. You wait at A and listen to the sounds. That's the way you play SnD. The GR who camps is not a noob, he is just doing his job. Do you know who the real noob is? The guy who rushes like an total idiot and then get's shot, that guy is an noob.
Someone who has no skills is a noob and that's why I think hardscopeing and quickscopeing is not noobish but getting killed by them is. -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »Really, do you have nothing better to do then following me and trying to annoy me? You guys call me a troll but you guys are the one that follow me, insult me and attack me for no reason.
Anyway, neither a hardscope nor the quicksoper are noobs, both are legit strategies.
The Sniper has pros and cons, the con is that it has a slow firing rate and no crosshair but the pro is that it kills with one shot. A sniper is not overpowered because in many cases it is bad. Like when 2 guys are standing in front of you.
Hardscopeing is not noobish because this is the way you use a sniper. When the enemy is far away you can kill him better when your sniper is zoomed in.
A Hardscoper that kills his enemy with one shot is not a noob. A quikscoper that needs 3 shots to kill his enemy is a noob.
But a quickscoper is not a noob too. First off all it is not easy to quickscope, many players can't do it and I fail at quickscoping a few times too. Now let's say you are in a small map, in a map like this you quickscope, someone that hardscopes in this map is a totally noob because he wont see his enemies.
The thing is you have to analyze the situation and find the right thing to do. If you are in a big map, then you should hardscope and if you are in a small map then you should quickscope.
same goes for camping. Camping is not noobish, it is a legit strategies. Let's say you are a GR. You wait at A and listen to the sounds. That's the way you play SnD. The GR who camps is not a noob, he is just doing his job. Do you know who the real noob is? The guy who rushes like an total idiot and then get's shot, that guy is an noob.
Someone who has no skills is a noob and that's why I think hardscopeing and quickscopeing is not noobish but getting killed by them is.1. You are the one at fault here, BadMonkey. My personal feeling aside, you did insult just about everyone who has ever died (which is pretty much everyone who has ever played) in this game by calling them noobs. That while dying is as much a part of this game as killing is.
2. If you want people to stop replying to your posts in a negative way, I suggest you stop posting these wall-o-rants of yours. No one is going to take the time to read how you are throwing a tantrum in a 100 words or more, and then answer to it with a positive response. -
[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »1. You are the one at fault here, BadMonkey. My personal feeling aside, you did insult just about everyone who has ever died (which is pretty much everyone who has ever played) in this game by calling them noobs. That while dying is as much a part of this game as killing is.
Well but saying that hardscoping and quickscoping is noobish is not a attack? Some people called me an noob and I attacked back, but well tell me what my fault was in this posts:
All you guys do is pointing out my faults but you never see it when people attack me.
well in the second one I insulted the OP but this does not give him the right to attack me.[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »2. If you want people to stop replying to your posts in a negative way, I suggest you stop posting these wall-o-rants of yours. No one is going to take the time to read how you are throwing a tantrum in a 100 words or more, and then answer to it with a positive response.
Nope, people always answer in a negative way to my posts, even when I don't attack them in the first place. Do you remember the "AWM / Sniping totally out of proportion" thread?
but since when is calling someone a noob something bad? Even Saidin or maybe someone else said that they wont ban people who call you a noob, so why is it so bad when I say it? -
BadMonkey, why do you always point with your finger to someone else when you are told you did something wrong? This whole "What about Mikey? He did this. But he did that." is so the behavior of a tattle-telling 5 year old that is trying to get someone else in trouble while he is being punished.
And people always reply negatively to you, BECAUSE you behave like a tantrum-throwing tattle-telling 5 year old. For Pete sake, man! Grow up! -
Well why did you even started this off topic talk? You could have just ignored it.[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »BadMonkey, why do you always point with your finger to someone else when you are told you did something wrong?
Well if someone says that I am a noob, and I call him a noob then and a third persons says I am the one wrong because I called him a noob, then I say that he started it. Well yes I did something wrong, but others did too. Do you think it is fair to attack only one while others did the same?[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »And people always reply negatively to you, because you behave like a tantrum-throwing tattle-telling 5 year old. For Pete sake, man! Grow up!
Well what was my fault in the examples? I just said that I disagree with him and out of nowhere people attack me, which is not right.
By the way this does not give others the right to break the rules too. If a member did something wrong then a moderator has to handle it but the other members don't have the right to call him an idiot or whatever. -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »Well why did you even started this off topic talk? You could have just ignored it.
Well if someone says that I am a noob, and I call him a noob then and a third persons says I am the one wrong because I called him a noob, then I say that he started it. Well yes I did something wrong, but others did too. Do you think it is fair to attack only one while others did the same?
Well what was my fault in the examples? I just said that I disagree with him and out of nowhere people attack me, which is not right.
By the way this does not give others the right to break the rules too. If a member did something wrong then a moderator has to handle it but the other members don't have the right to call him an idiot or whatever.Ever heard of the phrase "Being the bigger man"? Just because someone does something, doesn't mean you have to retaliate with an equal or worse response.
And don't complain about being called an idiot if you are going to behave like an idiot in response to being called an idiot.
And the reason why I'm telling you this, is it's my job as moderator to do so. It's called "flame-war prevention". -
so if its a legit discussion isn't this simply a tactical discussion ?
neither is right or wrong, noob or pro.
The answer lies in the appropriateness of one tactical response over another to a particular context - large map/small map, or sometimes maybe, long shot/short shot and the relative security of their position/sniping spot.
The pro-sniper will intuitively always (95%+) have the appropriate response,...everyone else will get it right sometimes.
the target isn't a factor pro/noob - simply a proposition of the above context and the appropriate tactical response to it -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »but you guys are the one that follow me, insult me and attack me for no reason.
May i ask when did i insult you in that post on this thread?
Did you even know you insult each player? You even insult yourself by saying that what is quote in my first post.
Because you called yourself a noob each player get killed by snipers once in a while.
But i agree that quickscopers or hardscopers are NOT noobs.
Also i dont follow you i just post on threads and i sure post when someone say something like you did.
As for that pic well i said that because you say stupid things sometimes..... (like you did on this thread)
Also how was my first post a attack/insult to you? All i did is say what you do.
But i dont understand it how can a sniper play and not getting called a noob if hardscoping and quicckscoping would be noobish..... -
The answer lies in the appropriateness of one tactical response over another to a particular context - large map/small map, or sometimes maybe, long shot/short shot and the relative security of their position/sniping spot.
The pro-sniper will intuitively always (95%+) have the appropriate response,...everyone else will get it right sometimes.
the target isn't a factor pro/noob - simply a proposition of the above context and the appropriate tactical response to it
Agree with this guy. You have to analyze the situation and find the best thing to do. When you chose the easy way to kill your enemy you are not a noob, you are just a smart guy. -
[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »I don't think there are many forumers that even know who the #$@*!! you are. Just saying.
What kind of MOD are you? You're on your PMs? Let him give his opinion, I also think there aren't many forumers that could beat me either, so what? Atleast I find most of the forumers bad players. -
What kind of MOD are you? You're on your PMs? Let him give his opinion, I also think there aren't many forumers that could beat me either, so what? Atleast I find most of the forumers bad players.
She is now only for a few days MOD, a good MOD! -
you got abit of a ego dont you.....I also think there aren't many forumers that could beat me either.
i think those that think they can beat everyone are kinda stupid. i dont really mean you with that. sorry.
you think there are some forumers that could beat you. -
So the "stay on topic rule" does only for me huh? Everybody can go off topic.
Anyway, as I said I don't think that the guy who is qsing or hsing is the noob, but the person who got's killed.
Just relax and look at the situation. There is this guy who runs around like a crazy monkey and then he get's shot. Who is the noob? The player who played correctly and shot his enemy or the guy who just rushed and got killed?
Let's say you are in a real war. You run through the fields and you got shot. What are you going to do? Are you going to call the soldier that shot you a noob for camping? -
L_OVER_BO_Y wrote: »you got abit of a ego dont you.....
i think those that think they can beat everyone are kinda stupid. i dont really mean you with that. sorry.
you think there are some forumers that could beat you.
It's not about having a big ego, it's being realistic. Most of the forumers are in clans with WinLoss Ratios that are barely positive and they call themselves decent? Well, I've never lost a 1on1 vs. a forumer but I know there are forumers who could beat me ofc, I'm not even in the competitive part. -
You guys say it like it is something good.
Online gaming is fun, but it shouldn't stop you from your real life. If you really spend your day and night to discuss who is better in this game, then you have no life. There are more important things to do.
One day you will search a job and you can't write in your application that you have no skills and bag grades but you have over thousands of posts on the z8games forum and a positive kdr in crossfire.
It's up to you guys, it is your life and you guys have to decide what you do with it. -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »You guys say it like it is something good.
Online gaming is fun, but it shouldn't stop you from your real life. If you really spend your day and night to discuss who is better in this game, then you have no life. There are more important things to do.
One day you will search a job and you can't write in your application that you have no skills and bag grades but you have over thousands of posts on the z8games forum and a positive kdr in crossfire.
It's up to you guys, it is your life and you guys have to decide what you do with it.
You have over 1k posts in a forum and who the hell tells you that I don't have other skills? And I barely play over one hour a day if I do, I've been playing for around 3 years and something and still am a first lt. -
I'm not that much online, I am out the whole day and I only come online at nights. Anyway, I think it is pointless to make this "I am better then you" "no I am better then you" posts because even if you play better, this doesn't makes you a better person then him.
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I don't why this thread has turned into an argument about such trivial things but here's my two cents.
Neither is more 'pro,' it depends on the situation of course. At close range I tend to quick scope but at long range I hard scope. It's as simple as that. -
[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »Quick scoping isn't considered sniping, let alone pro sniping. Quick scoping is merely bypassing the inaccuracy of a sniper rifle out of scope by quickly scoping in and switch to a secondary weapon. The scope isn't used to aim in any way, and instead the "sniper" used the center of his screen to aim at his opponent and relying on the overwhelming power of his rifle to kill, even when merely grazing a opponent's arm.
Quick scopers are mobile cannons, and not snipers.
lmao, I like the way she puts it. -
Hard-scoping is way more fun than quick scoping. Say Word. Honestly I would say it takes more skill to hard-scope than quick scoping. Only downfall are the people who complain about hard-scoping rofl, they surely must be addicted to call someone that.
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