Kickvote penalty
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BeFasterKid wrote: »Here my suggestion to make kickvote less annoying for players who get kicked w/o reason.:D
We al know that being kicked from a game leads to anger and madness. Why are we mad? Because we don't get the rewards (exp/gp/kills) we deserve. Especially when it's the last round or the 'real' h4cker doesn't get kicked. So the solution here would be simple: At the moment you get kicked out of the game, you receive your exp, gp and kills anyhow.
Whose with me here?Best possible solution for the kick-vote problem I have heard so far. In fact, I believe I have suggested it myself a few times.
We won't be able to solve the problem of kick-vote abuse, unless we can solve the problem that is our community. But at least we can take away this penalty, so that victims of kick-vote abuse are spared from losing everything they have worked for.
I also like to add to this suggestion. Instead of being redirected to the lobby when being kicked, people should be redirected to the score page, just like they would have if they had been allowed to finish the game. This way the victim can save the replay, in case he needs to report a hacker, and also make a screen shot of his abusers that kicked him during the game. Something that could be especially helpful if the abuse comes from an entire clan, that makes a habit out of kick-vote abusing players. I bet we all know a few clans that fit this description. -
Best possible solution for the kick-vote problem I have heard so far. In fact, I believe I have suggested it myself a few times.
We won't be able to solve the problem of kick-vote abuse, unless we can solve the problem that is our community. But at least we can take away this penalty, so that victims of kick-vote abuse are spared from losing everything they have worked for.
I also like to add to this suggestion. Instead of being redirected to the lobby when being kicked, people should be redirected to the score page, just like they would have if they had been allowed to finish the game. This way the victim can save the replay, in case he needs to report a hacker, and also make a screen shot of his abusers that kicked him during the game. Something that could be especially helpful if the abuse comes from an entire clan, that makes a habit out of kick-vote abusing players. I bet we all know a few clans that fit this description.
I totally agree with Your idea (I get kicked in every fifth game :S). I would be thankfull if someone of the GMs sees this... but I think they will not, like most of the times.
One thing I would like to add is that at the moment when you are redirected to the scoreboard if you were winning you should also get this extra exp that you would get if you played to the end...
There will always be hackers, I think we should not really care how fast they level... htey will get reported again and again and in the end they will get banned... So why would we care about them, we should care about those who get kicked because they are too good for those who kick them. -
Indeed. At the end they will get banned and make a new account and do the same thing.
Advantages:
Idle players will think twice before going idle: Getting negativ k/d going to -5 and lower will give a bad score at the end.
No more rage people making a forum account and start a thread with how they get kicked everytime.
Perhaps we get a community who wont care if you get kicked any more since the players know the person gets the score anyhow.
Cheaters as in h4ckers will indeed level up faster this way, but if we do our job as community and report them, they will get banned once they reach LT wich will be the deathblow to them. (imagine your account gets banned with a LT, i would be p!ssed of too and quit this game as well, means h4ckers will decrease)
Come on z8 people, just do us a faviour. -
Don't suggest that , simply because hacker Gonna have his/her EXp , Gb and KDR too .Hackers are suppose to be reported and banned, so who cares how much GP their locked account has, or what rank it was when they lost access to it?
Heck, it doesn't even matter, even if they don't get banned. All they can do with it is buy virtual guns that are inferior to the hacks they use. Whether they aimbot with an M16 or a Scar Light, a M700 or an AWM, it doesn't matter. In the end they are still going to ruin your day. -
Don't suggest that , simply because hacker Gonna have his/her EXp , Gb and KDR too .
Hello.
Farmers get tons of exp/gp by 'cheating' as well. We can't stop them and most of us don't care about farmers. Why should we DO care about the fact h4ckers will obtain their score.
It's very simple: H4ckers play false, get their score. We play fair, we are the ones that must struggle to not getting kicked and get a score. Now that's wrong. -
BeFasterKid wrote: »Here my suggestion to make kickvote less annoying for players who get kicked w/o reason.:D
We al know that being kicked from a game leads to anger and madness. Why are we mad? Because we don't get the rewards (exp/gp/kills) we deserve. Especially when it's the last round or the 'real' h4cker doesn't get kicked. So the solution here would be simple: At the moment you get kicked out of the game, you receive your exp, gp and kills anyhow.
Whose with me here?
I'm with u But The Problem is All will h@ck cuz they will Take There EXP and all what they wont so i think hckers will increase after doing that and its all the prob -
Agreed. It's anoying if they kick you in last round just because you're ace, receiving your exp would kinda abate pain ;D Idc if hackers would get their exp aswell, it's not like it would encourage them as the main reason for them to hack is to make others mad and I don't think they care that much about exp..
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I think the problem is that the votekick is to easy, everybody can start a votekick. A smiley with no experience can start a votekick against a player that plays since years. I think this is a problem in Crossfire, everybody, doesn't matter how young they are, judge the opinion of other users.
I think that we should try to stop kick abusers. -
they should introduce a new system.
right now one person just kicks and everyone votes but a few kick because of RQ or clan kdr or jsut want to f11/f12 quickly so it doesnt bother their gameplay anymore.
so i think they should use a addvote system
it simply avoids people being able to get you kick in this case everyone has to press a certain button after they pressed esc and decide they want that player kicked but no voting will pop up.
to get a player kicked a fixed percentage needs to agree and also do the same thing to get that player kicked.
this makes sure that kicking people isn't as easy and common because most of the time other people do care about the effort of kicking someone and passively waiting till everyone pauses their ingame action to kick a non hacker.
then again this could backfire insanely -
BeFasterKid wrote: »Here my suggestion to make kickvote less annoying for players who get kicked w/o reason.:D
We al know that being kicked from a game leads to anger and madness. Why are we mad? Because we don't get the rewards (exp/gp/kills) we deserve. Especially when it's the last round or the 'real' h4cker doesn't get kicked. So the solution here would be simple: At the moment you get kicked out of the game, you receive your exp, gp and kills anyhow.
Whose with me here?
Wouldn't hackers still hack since they would get the GP/EXP either way? -
CryingMonkey wrote: »Wouldn't hackers still hack since they would get the GP/EXP either way?
Tell me now. Would you do anything to annoy and bother h4ckers .. or do you want to do anything to make CF a better place for those fair players?
Currently z8games hate h4ckers more than they love their players. -
I dont see why you lose your exp/gp/Whatever
-Obviously hackers use low ranked accounts
******** almost never get kicked
******** just make other accounts
******** can easily spam their chams in SND or whatever and be done before they get kicked
With your suggestion , legit players will have an easier time no doubt -
Could someone, maybe the OP summarize this thread? What are the pros and cons and who likes this idea and who is against it.
Have you guys ever heard about the counter strike votekick? The one in which you write "/votekick" into the chat and it starts the kick? I think it would solve a lot of problems, but the main problem is that the crossfire community sucks.
Anyway, we could do something like this:
We create a xfire or steam group. We all add each other to that group and we only play together. Once we have over 100 players it should be easy to find players for every mode. The rule of that group would be to never kick, doesn't matter what happen and it is also good because we can add as many members as we want, in crossfire itself we can only add up to 100 players.
I did this once in a German community but we had only 22 players and after some point we all got inactive. -
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sounds like a reasonable way to keep most people happy. is this in any other CF versions? cause if it's not maybe it would be too hard to add something like that just for here.
if you are ACE or MVP you'd probably lose that spot though, but atleast you'd still get some exp and kills for your time. but if you lose your spot to a hacker you will still be mad.
if you get to keep your exp and kills it might make people less likely to kick someone since even if players know you aren't hacking some people just like to kick someone that has a good score to get that person mad. sure it's funny for them but it's not a good enough reason to kick someone.
we'd need more opinions on how people would feel if the hackers still get their experience. since hackers don't get permabanned the first time around - whats it take the 3rd ban before someone is perma banned? So someone could hack to their rank and just stop hacking before they get reported and banned the third time. Unless the GMs are up for the task of rolling back accounts that are confirmed to be hacking, which they probably won't do.
remember when people used to complain about there being no kick vote in MM/HM/HMX and free for fall, now I see alot of people complain there is vote kick added to those because they get kicked... it's hard to make everyone happy and it's often said the people on these forums are just a small percentage of players so there's noway to know what most of the players want. -
BeFasterKid wrote: »Here my suggestion to make kickvote less annoying for players who get kicked w/o reason.:D
We al know that being kicked from a game leads to anger and madness. Why are we mad? Because we don't get the rewards (exp/gp/kills) we deserve. Especially when it's the last round or the 'real' h4cker doesn't get kicked. So the solution here would be simple: At the moment you get kicked out of the game, you receive your exp, gp and kills anyhow.
Whose with me here?
So a hacker who does 10000000-0 and gets kicked, must receive 1100 EXP+ GP?
He is hacking and we must reward him ?
And being if kicked for no reason includes blocking, spamming, flamming, hating etc etc, there is actually a reason
That's why there is the " OTHERS " option
PS : Oh, and most of hackers WON'T get banned (from my 4 year experience of the game) -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »Could someone, maybe the OP summarize this thread? What are the pros and cons and who likes this idea and who is against it.
Have you guys ever heard about the counter strike votekick? The one in which you write "/votekick" into the chat and it starts the kick? I think it would solve a lot of problems, but the main problem is that the crossfire community sucks.
Anyway, we could do something like this:
We create a xfire or steam group. We all add each other to that group and we only play together. Once we have over 100 players it should be easy to find players for every mode. The rule of that group would be to never kick, doesn't matter what happen and it is also good because we can add as many members as we want, in crossfire itself we can only add up to 100 players.
I did this once in a German community but we had only 22 players and after some point we all got inactive.
PROS
- You don't waste your time
- You don't lose EXP/GP
- You don't get mad
CONS
- Hackers will get rewarded INSANE AMOUNTS OF EXP/GP ( With scores like 100-0 etc )
TO SUM UP : Better nerf Darius ( xD ) and UPDATE XTRAP. -
H4ckers cheat so they will win anyway. It's like using doping on an olympic, it's cheating you will still win.OpenYourSoul wrote: »So a hacker who does 10000000-0 and gets kicked, must receive 1100 EXP+ GP?OpenYourSoul wrote: »He is hacking and we must reward him ?
H4ckers get rewarded anyhow. Do you want h4ckers and players to be rewarded or only h4ckers? -
OpenYourSoul wrote: »PROS
- You don't waste your time
- You don't lose EXP/GP
- You don't get mad
CONS
- Hackers will get rewarded INSANE AMOUNTS OF EXP/GP ( With scores like 100-0 etc )
TO SUM UP : Better nerf Darius ( xD ) and UPDATE XTRAP.
This suggestion has more pros then cons. It's really annoying when you play a game and then get kicked in the last round. I lost many 50-10 scores because of this. FFA is unplayable because of this.
Anyway, the con is that Hackers will get rewarded. Is this really that bad? Let them have their points, they will get banned anyway and then they lose everything. Farmers get their points too.
I like how you added the vote. BeFasterKid, you are impressive.Categories
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