Dragunov Black.

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  • 23_Flavors wrote: »
    The MSG90 is the ONLY sniper rifle available in GP Crates, so it IS possible for them to put a sniper in these Crates. So, that being my inspiration, I wanted to see the possibility of implementing it. So, REAL money would not have to be involved. I however, like some others, would buy it for the simple reason that they bought the MSG90, because of collection purposes. Plus, there are the few that actually use it. But, the Dragunov would be better than the MSG90 because of its, (1. Possible 1-hit, (2. Higher Ammo capacity, (3. Faster Reload, (4. The Look.

    So THAT being my explanation, could you now see this possibility?
    The MSG-90 isn't really an improved sniper rifle. Its the idea G4box came up with to answer to people's wishes of having the PSG-1 regular for GP. And since they couldn't get the devs to do that, they introduced a similar rifle as a GP crate. But don't be fooled by its location, for its no better than any Item Shop sniper rifle.

    And since the Dragunov is already in the Item Shop, its not going to appear as a GP crate. So with the exception of the MSG-90 for the reason mentioned above, no sniper rifle is going to be a GP crate prize.

    And no, your explanation still lacks solid grounds. With just a new skin, a +5 ammo, and even with a faster reload, a Dragunov will still be an unfavorable sniper rifle. People would still prefer to gamble for a DSR-1 camo or rusty, a Fr-F2 or for one of the AWMs. Only people with money to burn, would perhaps try to get it, but it wouldn't be a money maker.

    BTW, what was wrong with the suggestion I made of adding a suppressor? If any sniper rifle would be ideal as a suppressed sniper rifle without being overpowered, it would be the Dragunov. They could even lower the power a bit to make it a guaranteed 2-hitter to the body. This would both answer the need for a more challenging sniper rifle, as well as make it more interesting to gamble you money on.
  • Frecklez wrote: »
    The MSG-90 isn't really an improved sniper rifle. Its the idea G4box came up with to answer to people's wishes of having the PSG-1 regular for GP. And since they couldn't get the devs to do that, they introduced a similar rifle as a GP crate. But don't be fooled by its location, for its no better than any Item Shop sniper rifle.

    And since the Dragunov is already in the Item Shop, its not going to appear as a GP crate. So with the exception of the MSG-90 for the reason mentioned above, no sniper rifle is going to be a GP crate prize.

    And no, your explanation still lacks solid grounds. With just a new skin, a +5 ammo, and even with a faster reload, a Dragunov will still be an unfavorable sniper rifle. People would still prefer to gamble for a DSR-1 camo or rusty, a Fr-F2 or for one of the AWMs. Only people with money to burn, would perhaps try to get it, but it wouldn't be a money maker.

    BTW, what was wrong with the suggestion I made of adding a suppressor? If any sniper rifle would be ideal as a suppressed sniper rifle without being overpowered, it would be the Dragunov. They could even lower the power a bit to make it a guaranteed 2-hitter to the body. This would both answer the need for a more challenging sniper rifle, as well as make it more interesting to gamble you money on.
    yeah i agree they dont got to make the dragunov a one hit sniper. their allready so many one hit snipers anyway. but i dont think anyone would even buy the dragunov and use it.
  • suiles wrote: »
    i dont,well i do about the gp crate thing. but not about that you want it to be 'one hit' and like how you say it 'one hit,higher ammo capacity,faster reload,the look' isnt that just a new gun? because whats left of the dragunov?

    Dragunov is a 1-hit capable gun, not all the time tho.. and the m4-royal has faster reload, higher ammo capacity, new look, silencer, and better wallbang... So, no, not a new weapon. Just a variant.
  • Frecklez wrote: »
    The MSG-90 isn't really an improved sniper rifle. Its the idea G4box came up with to answer to people's wishes of having the PSG-1 regular for GP. And since they couldn't get the devs to do that, they introduced a similar rifle as a GP crate. But don't be fooled by its location, for its no better than any Item Shop sniper rifle.

    And since the Dragunov is already in the Item Shop, its not going to appear as a GP crate. So with the exception of the MSG-90 for the reason mentioned above, no sniper rifle is going to be a GP crate prize.

    And no, your explanation still lacks solid grounds. With just a new skin, a +5 ammo, and even with a faster reload, a Dragunov will still be an unfavorable sniper rifle. People would still prefer to gamble for a DSR-1 camo or rusty, a Fr-F2 or for one of the AWMs. Only people with money to burn, would perhaps try to get it, but it wouldn't be a money maker.

    BTW, what was wrong with the suggestion I made of adding a suppressor? If any sniper rifle would be ideal as a suppressed sniper rifle without being overpowered, it would be the Dragunov. They could even lower the power a bit to make it a guaranteed 2-hitter to the body. This would both answer the need for a more challenging sniper rifle, as well as make it more interesting to gamble you money on.

    GP crate would not DIRECTLY make people spend money on this gun, necessarily. They could buy some ZP crates and win/or not win a gun and have a bunch of GP left over for spending. Then they could use that GP and buy crates for a new gun. (Like I do.) Or they could buy GP and a name card for days.. but who cares?
  • 23_Flavors wrote: »
    GP crate would not DIRECTLY make people spend money on this gun, necessarily. They could buy some ZP crates and win/or not win a gun and have a bunch of GP left over for spending. Then they could use that GP and buy crates for a new gun. (Like I do.) Or they could buy GP and a name card for days.. but who cares?
    Again, no improved sniper rifle will ever be a GP crate. Even if it only has a +5 ammo and a new skin, it would already qualify as an improved sniper rifle, and thus become a ZP crate.

    So, again I'll ask you, what will make people want to buy this Dragunov of yours over a DSR-1 Rusty, a FR-F2 or an AWM Red Dragon, if it lacks in power compared to the other three?
  • i prefer a m700-adv or silenced. even though Frecklez does have a point though. i would def. go for a dsr-rusty then the draggy-black
  • Frecklez wrote: »
    Just a suggestion:

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    haha looks like a dragunov 'patriot' with the camo-ish bits still cool tho.
  • i prefer a m700-adv or silenced. even though Frecklez does have a point though. i would def. go for a dsr-rusty then the draggy-black
    yeah i want a m700 reskin theres never been done anything for that gun.
    they made a m16 camo-scope so why not a m700 adv?
  • suiles wrote: »
    yeah i want a m700 reskin theres never been done anything for that gun.
    they made a m16 camo-scope so why not a m700 adv?
    Because it already has 10/30 ammo. Just giving it +5 ammo wouldn't really do much for this rifle. Neither would raising the damage a bit or improve any of its other stats. So it would face the same problem as the Dragunov. However, the M700 is just like the Dragunov, perfect as a silent sniper without becoming overpowered.
  • Frecklez wrote: »
    Because it already has 10/30 ammo. Just giving it +5 ammo wouldn't really do much for this rifle. Neither would raising the damage a bit or improve any of its other stats. So it would face the same problem as the Dragunov. However, the M700 is just like the Dragunov, perfect as a silent sniper without becoming overpowered.
    i just want a new reskin thats all noting else.
  • Frecklez wrote: »
    Because it already has 10/30 ammo. Just giving it +5 ammo wouldn't really do much for this rifle. Neither would raising the damage a bit or improve any of its other stats. So it would face the same problem as the Dragunov. However, the M700 is just like the Dragunov, perfect as a silent sniper without becoming overpowered.

    but the m700 has more movement to it + its a 2 shooter so i think it works
  • but the m700 has more movement to it + its a 2 shooter so i think it works
    what you would change the power,speed,ammo of the m700? that would mess up the
    m700.
  • suiles wrote: »
    what you would change the power,speed,ammo of the m700? that would mess up the
    m700.

    naa i would not im just saying that the movement with the m700 makes it worthy of having an advanced reskin version of it. The extra bullets are just a bonus
  • naa i would not im just saying that the movement with the m700 makes it worthy of having an advanced reskin version of it. The extra bullets are just a bonus
    well yeah i would love it to have a reskin for the m700. but yeah most people wouldnt buy it though because its not a 1-hit sniper. :( but i think it takes the balls and skill to play with a m700.
  • suiles wrote: »
    well yeah i would love it to have a reskin for the m700. but yeah most people wouldnt buy it though because its not a 1-hit sniper. :( but i think it takes the balls and skill to play with a m700.

    i agree if you want headshot practice i think the m700 is quite a good challenge and it takes skill to use. its also a good assist gun to damage people for the takedown
  • suiles wrote: »
    well yeah i would love it to have a reskin for the m700. but yeah most people wouldnt buy it though because its not a 1-hit sniper. :( but i think it takes the balls and skill to play with a m700.


    I would buy it! :)

    i Love to snipe with M700 :) *Instant Headshots :rolleyes: *

    but wasn't the thread about the Dragunov-Black? ._.

  • i agree if you want headshot practice i think the m700 is quite a good challenge and it takes skill to use. its also a good assist gun to damage people for the takedown
    yeah i do hate it in pub you hit them one time then they run off like little baby's and someone kill them then im like sign. and its funny when i play with my m700 and someone with a dsr or awm cant keep up with my K/D lol
  • suiles wrote: »
    yeah i do hate it in pub you hit them one time then they run off like little baby's and someone kill them then im like sign. and its funny when i play with my m700 and someone with a dsr or awm cant keep up with my K/D lol

    Yea it fun to out snipe awms and dsrs because you have the speed advantage :P
  • I would buy it! :)

    i Love to snipe with M700 :) *Instant Headshots :rolleyes: *

    but wasn't the thread about the Dragunov-Black? ._.

    yes people would buy it but who would use it..... and yeah it was about the dragunov. but what else can be said about the dragunov? it will be a zp crate and it only got yo get +5 ammo and a reskin besides that noting.
  • Yea it fun to out snipe awms and dsrs because you have the speed advantage :P
    yeah like 2 days ago i beated 1vs6 with m700 on EE S&D. but ofcoure the other team said right away 'hack' sign.
  • suiles wrote: »
    yes people would buy it but who would use it..... and yeah it was about the dragunov. but what else can be said about the dragunov? it will be a zp crate and it only got yo get +5 ammo and a reskin besides that noting.
    suiles wrote: »
    yeah like 2 days ago i beated 1vs6 with m700 on EE S&D. but ofcoure the other team said right away 'hack' sign.


    Double Post "sign"

    Hey! i wna do some 1on1 M700 against u :)
    ( no Worry's about ur Ping, i'm ur Neighbour "Country" :P )
  • Double Post "sign"

    Hey! i wna do some 1on1 M700 against u :)
    ( no Worry's about ur Ping, i'm ur Neighbour "Country" :P )
    i dont do 1vs1 to boring........
  • Yeah a Drago -adv but not black.. maybe it shoot faster
  • I would buy it! :)

    i Love to snipe with M700 :) *Instant Headshots :rolleyes: *

    but wasn't the thread about the Dragunov-Black? ._.


    Yes, please keep on topic.
  • 23_Flavors wrote: »
    Yes, please keep on topic.
    Still awaiting your reply to my post on page 4.
  • Frecklez wrote: »
    Still awaiting your reply to my post on page 4.
    maybe hes to afraid to replay to your post or he cant because he know he wont win that.
  • suiles wrote: »
    maybe hes to afraid to replay to your post or he cant because he know he wont win that.
    The whole point of asking for feedback is to get people's help in making a good idea better. And that's exactly what I'm offering. So he has no reason to be afraid of replying back. If he only make this thread to get his idea liked, he started it for the wrong reasons.
  • Frecklez wrote: »
    The whole point of asking for feedback is to get people's help in making a good idea better. And that's exactly what I'm offering. So he has no reason to be afraid of replying back. If he only make this thread to get his idea liked, he started it for the wrong reasons.
    i guess thats why people post a idea to make it a better idea right?